Ahleon Neutral Newbie February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 How do i know if the fat taken in a meal is enough? Got home early today and raided the refrigerator to make a meal... 1)Boiled brocoli with butter slices 2)Streaky Bacon + Danish bacon 3)Chicken fillet 4)Fish Is such meal too much protein or not enough fats? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenbackside 1st Gear February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 When you feel full faster than usual. You will not be able to eat as much as before if you have enough fat. I usually aim for about 70% fat, 20% protein and 10% carbs from veges. So if you put it into a caloric perspective, if you eat 2000 calories a meal, 1400 cal is fat, 400 cal is lean meat and 200 calories is from veges. Put it on a plate and you will see a piece of steak with a big chunk of butter and a whole load of veges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 Ya and I love that skin. This time round I thought now can eat with relish then wow, look at the thick crust and all that chicken fat with it, my fat quota sure to be filled that day, then remembered ya hor, all that thick crust is dipped in flour and spices then deep fried! You won't know how difficult it was to tear out all that skin (some more I ordered 1 drumstick and 2 thighs!) and stuff back into the box I don't have cravings for KFC, it's been so long. I do eat friend food once a week, but KFC never was on the list. Prawn noodles, Lor Mee, Dim Sum buffet etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithunk 1st Gear February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 skipping is good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 How do i know if the fat taken in a meal is enough? Got home early today and raided the refrigerator to make a meal... 1)Boiled brocoli with butter slices 2)Streaky Bacon + Danish bacon 3)Chicken fillet 4)Fish Is such meal too much protein or not enough fats? Wow, you can makan so much. (No offence ok?) I had 4 strips streaky bacon, 4 eggs, friend in bacon fat, one slice of butter, for breakfast, man, I was like smelling of bacon and burping bacon the whole morning, had roast pork for lunch, it was 15-6 slices in the box, just couldn't bring myself to finish everything, my 10th slice was already pushing it. Dinner....err...got dinner? tried the coconut cream mix, 3-4 tablespoons, I gave up. I couldn't eat anymore. And I'm still full. I hit the totally NO CARBS level, a bit tired, could be lack of sleep cos I had some work last night, overall I'm still ok, gave gym a miss for my body to adjust to this new diet. Now only wanna sleep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgun Neutral Newbie February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 Wow, you can makan so much. (No offence ok?) I had 4 strips streaky bacon, 4 eggs, friend in bacon fat, one slice of butter, for breakfast, man, I was like smelling of bacon and burping bacon the whole morning, had roast pork for lunch, it was 15-6 slices in the box, just couldn't bring myself to finish everything, my 10th slice was already pushing it. Dinner....err...got dinner? tried the coconut cream mix, 3-4 tablespoons, I gave up. I couldn't eat anymore. And I'm still full. I hit the totally NO CARBS level, a bit tired, could be lack of sleep cos I had some work last night, overall I'm still ok, gave gym a miss for my body to adjust to this new diet. Now only wanna sleep. Today 2 half-boiled eggs & 5 slices of ham for bkfast. My favourite der kah at East Coast Pk for lunch. Sneaked in a banana and 10 almonds in the afternoon 4pm. Dinner was a few pieces of roast pork, some fish slices, some vegetables & lotus root soup at 8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 (edited) dim sum can eat. skip e char siew pau n carrot cake, eat onli chicken leg, steam pork ribs n har gaw w/o skin . btw, while bacon is delicious, i m really cautious of e ultra high salt content, same go for ham n hotdogs Edited February 1, 2010 by Hamburger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 dim sum can eat. skip e char siew pau n carrot cake, eat onli chicken leg, steam pork ribs n har gaw w/o skin . btw, while bacon is delicious, i m really cautious of e ultra high salt content, same go for ham n hotdogs You can dip the bacon into hot water 1st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenbackside 1st Gear February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 btw, while bacon is delicious, i m really cautious of e ultra high salt content, same go for ham n hotdogs Yup, they are usually filled with sodium nitrite. They add it to make the meat look nice and red so that you will buy them. It's bad for your health. Deli meats, sausages, bacon... all not good for health. From here: http://www.naturalnews.com/007024_cancer_m...um_nitrite.html Consuming processed meats increases the risk of pancreatic cancer, says new research conducted at the University of Hawaii that followed nearly 200,000 men and women for seven years. According to lead study author Ute Nothlings, people who consumed the most processed meats (hot dogs and sausage) showed a 67% increased risk of pancreatic cancer over those who consumed little or no meat products. But researchers failed to accurately identify the culprit responsible for this increased risk of pancreatic cancer, says one author. The true cause of the heightened cancer risk is the widespread use of a carcinogenic precursor ingredient known as sodium nitrite by food processing companies, says nutritionist Mike Adams, author of the just-published Grocery Warning manual at: http://www.TruthPublishing.com/GroceryWarning.html Nearly all processed meats are made with sodium nitrite: breakfast sausage, hot dogs, jerkies, bacon, lunch meat, and even meats in canned soup products. Yet this ingredient is a precursor to highly carcinogenic nitrosamines -- potent cancer-causing chemicals that accelerate the formation and growth of cancer cells throughout the body. When consumers eat sodium nitrite in popular meat products, nitrosamines are formed in the body where they promote the growth of various cancers, including colorectal cancer and pancreatic cancer, says Adams. "Sodium nitrite is a dangerous, cancer-causing ingredient that has no place in the human food supply," he explains. The USDA actually tried to ban sodium nitrite in the 1970's, but was preempted by the meat processing industry, which relies on the ingredient as a color fixer to make foods look more visually appealing. "The meat industry uses sodium nitrite to sell more meat products at the expense of public health," says Adams. "And this new research clearly demonstrates the link between the consumption of processed meats and cancer." Pancreatic cancer isn't the only negative side effect of consuming processed meats such as hot dogs. Leukemia also skyrockets by 700% following the consumption of hot dogs. (Preston-Martin, S. et al. "N-nitroso compounds and childhood brain tumors: A case-control study." Cancer Res. 1982; 42:5240-5.) Other links between processed meats and disease are covered in detail in the Grocery Warning manual. Adams wrote Grocery Warning to warn consumers about the toxic, disease-causing ingredients found in everyday foods and groceries. "There are certain ingredients found in common grocery products that directly promote cancer, diabetes, heart disease, depression, Alzheimer's disease, osteoporosis and even behavioral disorders," Adams explains. His Grocery Warning manual covers them all, teaching readers how to prevent and even help reverse chronic diseases by avoiding the foods and food ingredients that cause disease. According to Adams, consumers can help reduce the cancer-causing effects of sodium nitrite by consuming protective antioxidants before meals, such as vitamin C and vitamin E. But no vitamin offers 100% protection. The only safe strategy is to avoid sodium nitrite completely. Adams especially warns expectant mothers to avoid consuming sodium nitrite due to the greatly heightened risk of brain tumors in infants. Parents are also warned to avoid feeding their children products that contain sodium nitrite, including all popular hot dogs, bacon, jerkies, breakfast sausages and pizzas made with pepperoni or other processed meats. "Sodium nitrite is especially dangerous to fetuses, infants and children," says Adams. Sadly, nearly all school lunch programs currently serve schoolchildren meat products containing sodium nitrite. Hospital cafeterias also serve this cancer-causing ingredient to patients. Sodium nitrite is found in literally thousands of different menu items at fast food restaurants and dining establishments. "The use of this ingredient is widespread," says Adams, and it's part of the reason we're seeing skyrocketing rates of cancer in every society that consumes large quantities of processed meats." Some companies are now offering nitrite-free and nitrate-free meat products, which are far healthier alternatives, but those products are difficult to find and are typically available only at health food stores or natural grocers. Consumers can look for "Nitrite-free" or "Nitrate-free" labels when shopping for meat products. They can also purchase fresh meats, which are almost never prepared with sodium nitrite. The new research on processed meats points to a chemical toxin as the cause of the increased cancer risk. A heightened cancer risk of 67% is "gigantic," warns Adams. "This is clearly not due to macronutrient differences. This is the kind of risk increase you only see with ingredient toxicity. Something in these processed meats is poisoning people, and the evidence points straight to sodium nitrite." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 walau, read oridi lagi don dare to eat . for e time being, my breakfast will b: 1. grill pork or chicken wif simple marination 2. broccoli n carrot top wif cheese melted on top 3. 1 egg 4. 1 slice of butter n kopi of course...w/creamer look really sumptuous compared to wat i ate previously......2 toast w/jam & peanut butter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgun Neutral Newbie February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 (edited) dim sum can eat. skip e char siew pau n carrot cake, eat onli chicken leg, steam pork ribs n har gaw w/o skin . btw, while bacon is delicious, i m really cautious of e ultra high salt content, same go for ham n hotdogs Yup, am aware of that. I think thotdogs/sausages contain preservatives too Edited February 1, 2010 by Topgun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 Today 2 half-boiled eggs & 5 slices of ham for bkfast. My favourite der kah at East Coast Pk for lunch. Sneaked in a banana and 10 almonds in the afternoon 4pm. Dinner was a few pieces of roast pork, some fish slices, some vegetables & lotus root soup at 8. I makan breakfast already I cannot go on liow. I don't ea roast pork, now I see also I scared, had some today as mentioned, cannot eat anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 dim sum can eat. skip e char siew pau n carrot cake, eat onli chicken leg, steam pork ribs n har gaw w/o skin . btw, while bacon is delicious, i m really cautious of e ultra high salt content, same go for ham n hotdogs Didn't work out, saw CBS having bacon on one of his meals. so tried. NICE! Tomorrow no more lah. Thanks for reminding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenbackside 1st Gear February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 Didn't work out, saw CBS having bacon on one of his meals. so tried. NICE! Tomorrow no more lah. Thanks for reminding. It's ok if it's raw bacon. That's what I buy. Never the ones with nitrite. You can buy raw bacon at places like Meat The Butcher or Swiss Butchery. Thinking about like is making me salivate man... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenbackside 1st Gear February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 walau, read oridi lagi don dare to eat . for e time being, my breakfast will b: 1. grill pork or chicken wif simple marination 2. broccoli n carrot top wif cheese melted on top 3. 1 egg 4. 1 slice of butter n kopi of course...w/creamer look really sumptuous compared to wat i ate previously......2 toast w/jam & peanut butter If you look at it objectively, your new breakfast is at least 100 x's more nutritious than your old one... Can't be bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenbackside 1st Gear February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 I've been lurking in this thread for a while, and great discussions here. I'm almost tempted to embark in this high fat/low carb diet, but am hesitant coz I'm not exactly over weight. I'm 67kg at 1.77m. But a year old blood test reveals I have enough bad cholestrol to cause concern. Since my intention is not to lose weight, but to lower my cholestrol level, is it safe for me to embark on this diet with my regular jogging? A person can be slim, but unhealthy at the same time. It's what people call "skinny fat". Skinny in appearance but fat in terms of health. Firstly, you have to know that total cholesterol is a meaningless number. Ask your doctor if he knows anything about pattern A and B LDL's. If he doesn't, don't take the statin drugs he prescribes for you for your "high" cholesterol. Anyone taking statins should explore ways to get off the drug. It's never shown to be effective (even my own doc told me that) and there are many people who suffer brain damage and joint pain from it. Here, the LDL cholesterol numbers are derived from the Friedewald method. It's not even measured. There are 2 types of LDL. Large and fluffy (benign, doesn't harm you) and small and dense (bad, causes arteries to be blocked). You need to know how much of each you have. Since there is no NMR machine in Singapore to test specific LDL's, the best indication is triglycerides/HDL ratio. If your number is 2 and below, you're good. 2 and higher, you need to worry. So the lower the triglycerides are, the better. The higher your HDL is, the better. So what foods cause a decrease in triglycerides and an increase in HDL? The good fats. Not poison like vegetable oils please. My personal results after eating 70% fat, 20% protein and 10% carbs for 1 year: Trigylcerides decrease 80%. HDL increase 100%. Prior to that, I was eating low fat, moderate protein and high carbs. I just swapped the carb and fat ratios. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazdaowner Moderator February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 It's ok if it's raw bacon. That's what I buy. Never the ones with nitrite. You can buy raw bacon at places like Meat The Butcher or Swiss Butchery. Thinking about like is making me salivate man... On, ditto, will get these on the next round. The ones I have now, will be going into the bin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenbackside 1st Gear February 1, 2010 Share February 1, 2010 Here's an article on cholesterol written by Dr BG. Those who are interested in finding out about cholesterol and how to eat to improve heart health should read this. Casual style of writing but full of science: http://drbganimalpharm.blogspot.com/2009/1...impossible.html ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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