Hamburger Hypersonic June 17, 2018 Share June 17, 2018 A similar output by VW or A3 1.0L engine. High pressure turbo probably used by the Germans. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 17, 2018 Share June 17, 2018 Read in ST the new Mini One comes with a 1.5T engine and 7-speed gearbox but the century sprint is just 10.5s, why did they tune it down? To fit into Cat A?It is upgrade from previous 1.2L. This is the detuned 1.5L that produces 100hp. In Europe, ppl buy small car with engine less than 1.5L. Mini One fit into that segment. Mini One has been in the lineup since Mini R50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayoflight 5th Gear June 18, 2018 Share June 18, 2018 why DCT?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic June 18, 2018 Share June 18, 2018 It is upgrade from previous 1.2L. This is the detuned 1.5L that produces 100hp. In Europe, ppl buy small car with engine less than 1.5L. Mini One fit into that segment. Mini One has been in the lineup since Mini R50 I am aware, my friend owns the 1.2L Mini One. The last Cooper 1.5L hatch was already capable of doing 136bp and century sprint of below 8s, so a 1.5L TC engine producing 102hp on the Mini One does not make sense to me. Think our Cat A and B regime has a hand in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 18, 2018 Share June 18, 2018 I am aware, my friend owns the 1.2L Mini One. The last Cooper 1.5L hatch was already capable of doing 136bp and century sprint of below 8s, so a 1.5L TC engine producing 102hp on the Mini One does not make sense to me. Think our Cat A and B regime has a hand in it. How big is Singapore market to have an influence on Mini Product lineup? Only Mini use that 1.2L block. It does not make economical sense for BMW to maintain it. On the other hand, 1.5L detuned appears in Mini One/BMW 116/216 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic June 18, 2018 Share June 18, 2018 How big is Singapore market to have an influence on Mini Product lineup? Only Mini use that 1.2L block. It does not make economical sense for BMW to maintain it. On the other hand, 1.5L detuned appears in Mini One/BMW 116/216 You are right, it is a global model. I read there will be another 1.5L hatch that is faster, true? https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/mini-1499-gt-kick-starts-15-litre-mini-hatch-range Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayoflight 5th Gear June 18, 2018 Share June 18, 2018 (edited) I tot car manufacturers are shunning away from dct already.. even bmw M. Why mini wan to adopt dct? Better acceleration and fc? Edited June 18, 2018 by Rayoflight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 18, 2018 Share June 18, 2018 You are right, it is a global model. I read there will be another 1.5L hatch that is faster, true? https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/mini-1499-gt-kick-starts-15-litre-mini-hatch-range I don't think so. In fact, there is 2 version of Mini One. Mini One First: 74hp Mini One: 101hp Mini Cooper: 134hp All 3 version comes from the same 1.5L block. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 18, 2018 Share June 18, 2018 I tot car manufacturers are shunning away from dct already.. even bmw M. Why mini wan to adopt dct? Better acceleration and fc? At the top tier of sports car market, Porky, Ferrari, Lambo (Huracan only), Bugatti & Mclaren is still using DCT. I don't think these manufacturer will move towards torque converter AT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic June 18, 2018 Share June 18, 2018 I don't think so. In fact, there is 2 version of Mini One. Mini One First: 74hp Mini One: 101hp Mini Cooper: 134hp All 3 version comes from the same 1.5L block Cooper has the turbo. "One first" for sure doesn't need a turbo, "One" maybe a turbo for more things to spoil? hahaha Others can easily achieve 100hp without a turbo. maybe it helps for emission? who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 18, 2018 Share June 18, 2018 Cooper has the turbo. "One first" for sure doesn't need a turbo, "One" maybe a turbo for more things to spoil? hahaha Others can easily achieve 100hp without a turbo. maybe it helps for emission? who knows. How about torque? One First: 160NM One: 190NM Cooper: 230NM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic June 18, 2018 Share June 18, 2018 How about torque? One First: 160NM One: 190NM Cooper: 230NM well the honda jazz as a 1.5NA has 129hp and 155nm. http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_specs.php?CarCode=11531&Subcode=5996 maybe BMW is just lazy to change anything and just dump the same lump in and just have it in different states of tune. but i wonder why bother with 74hp and 160nm. maybe more applicable to europe, to lower emissions to get a better tax bracket. maybe turbo @0.3bar enough liao.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 18, 2018 Share June 18, 2018 well the honda jazz as a 1.5NA has 129hp and 155nm. http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_specs.php?CarCode=11531&Subcode=5996 maybe BMW is just lazy to change anything and just dump the same lump in and just have it in different states of tune. but i wonder why bother with 74hp and 160nm. maybe more applicable to europe, to lower emissions to get a better tax bracket. maybe turbo @0.3bar enough liao.. Actually, it will be interesting for Mini to have the same engine as i8 (without electric motor). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic June 18, 2018 Share June 18, 2018 Cooper has the turbo. "One first" for sure doesn't need a turbo, "One" maybe a turbo for more things to spoil? hahaha Others can easily achieve 100hp without a turbo. maybe it helps for emission? who knows. The thing is Mini One has a turbo, hence very puzzling to produce only 102bp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 (edited) The thing is Mini One has a turbo, hence very puzzling to produce only 102bp.Detuned. Probably the best car I've driven this year and one of the best I've ever driven. Wish I had the money. Edited July 17, 2018 by Mockngbrd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic July 17, 2018 Share July 17, 2018 JCW Look awesome in black and red combi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donchew76 3rd Gear July 18, 2018 Share July 18, 2018 Mini se told me on sunday jcw can only test drive on weekdays. When she asked again on monday, her mgt say jcw is out for media till further notice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava 5th Gear July 18, 2018 Share July 18, 2018 Mini se told me on sunday jcw can only test drive on weekdays. When she asked again on monday, her mgt say jcw is out for media till further notice. I just test drove their clubman jcw last sat. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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