Two point Seven Seconds

[KARTer]

i preffer the exige - looks wise its better as is the aero so its a little faster despite being heavier.

 

Heres my lotus at fuji - i still think the shape is one of the best, and handling is great

yes the Exige... which i consider a different car from the Elise

[Strudel-]

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2671598

 

Round Two... FIGHT!

Edited November 22, 2011 by Strudel-

[JaydenSTI]

brudder, how fast you can go in a race track? 250kph?? 300kph??? longer wheel base will help in high speed stability no doubt, but i dun see any elise run like a wild horse at above 200kph lo.... i did a 260kph on my ride for more then 10 mins, at 2.6m wheel base, i am very comfortable with the stability on my ride.

 

every modification with a purpose in mind. just like the FQ-400 had in mind of getting super power at high rev, while the satria had in mind was to drag like to tomorrow.

 

when ppl mention gtr, u said ur lotus smoked it in a short course, to me, NPNT. say whatever you want. i can also tell you that my STI smoke a F458 ytd in a straight line at over 300kph, but i dun have a prove to show.

 

when ppl mentioned super high power modified car, you say short wheel base make those car run like wild horse.... wonder have you seen any drag race b4, do they maintain >250kph for more than 10 sec????

[Badder]

yes the Exige... which i consider a different car from the Elise

 

 

ehh?....its 95% same car

[KARTer]

ehh?....its 95% same car

performance-wise not the same, price also not same

[Badder]

performance-wise not the same, price also not same

The 1st exige was made by lotus by shoving a hardtop and bigger wheels on an elise. They basically share same engine, chassis and gearbox

 

 

The elises/exige share :

 

same engine

same gearbox

same chassis

same suspension

 

 

 

the only real difference is the shape of front and rear clam, wheel size and the wing.

 

 

There are differences in specs for the exige and elise range respectfully, the exige being available with options for more track orientated specs, but both cars could still be bought with same performance depending on the model and a simple clam and wheel change can turn an elise into and exige and visa versa.

 

 

 

eg

 

 

Elise 11R and the Exige S2 had the exact same performance (no mechanical differences)

 

 

I race against plenty of elises and exiges and theres no significant difference - in fact generally speaking the elises are faster as they are bit lighter.

 

 

You are right about the price differential though

 

 

Edited November 24, 2011 by Badder

[Badder]

 

 

 

Exige S2 4.7 sec

Elise R 4.9 secs

Elise SC 4.3 secs

Exige S 4.1 secs

Exige 240 3.8 secs

 

 

There is an elise model faster than an exige model

 

 

 

Most of us are running in the high 3s and low 4s

 

 

 

 

[KARTer]

that's right:- the price gaps are significant giving me the impressions that an exige involves more tweats compared with the base elise.... those exiges owned by frens probably are the hi spec ones and i was misled coz i didnt really checked them carefully...

 

The 1st exige was made by lotus by shoving a hardtop and bigger wheels on an elise. They basically share same engine, chassis and gearbox

 

 

The elises/exige share :

 

same engine

same gearbox

same chassis

same suspension

 

 

 

the only real difference is the shape of front and rear clam, wheel size and the wing.

 

 

There are differences in specs for the exige and elise range respectfully, the exige being available with options for more track orientated specs, but both cars could still be bought with same performance depending on the model and a simple clam and wheel change can turn an elise into and exige and visa versa.

 

 

 

eg

 

 

Elise 11R and the Exige S2 had the exact same performance (no mechanical differences)

 

 

I race against plenty of elises and exiges and theres no significant difference - in fact generally speaking the elises are faster as they are bit lighter.

 

 

You are right about the price differential though

 

[Strudel-]

Exige S2 4.7 sec

Elise R 4.9 secs

Elise SC 4.3 secs

Exige S 4.1 secs

Exige 240 3.8 secs

 

 

There is an elise model faster than an exige model

 

 

 

Most of us are running in the high 3s and low 4s

 

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details...ce&__N=1216 1246 1247 1252 1282 4294965279&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~1

 

Very tempted but 2 seater is not practical for me...

[KARTer]

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details...ce&__N=1216 1246 1247 1252 1282 4294965279&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~1

 

Very tempted but 2 seater is not practical for me...

My friends and I make do with something much cheaper but just as 'raw' with 0-100 in the 4s, pulling literal Gs as great as, but most likely greater than, the exige........ worst than a 2-seater, it seats only the driver.... cant go grocery shopping (no boot).... in fact it cant legally go on public road

 

in a way, the exige may be trying to simulate what it does.....

[Happily1986]

My friends and I make do with something much cheaper but just as 'raw' with 0-100 in the 4s, pulling literal Gs as great as, but most likely greater than, the exige........ worst than a 2-seater, it seats only the driver.... cant go grocery shopping (no boot).... in fact it cant legally go on public road

 

in a way, the exige may be trying to simulate what it does.....

 

is that a gokart?

[Kiadaw]

what cant? too lazy to google yourself? what am i your secretary?

 

just pulled these off the net as a rough guide

 

GTR - $69850

GT2 - $245000

GT3 - $112200

 

 

The GT-R is known to get overheated fast around the track. The GT3, however can go & goes, until out of fuel or tires. However the GT-R is a hot sprinter for the few laps it can go. In any case, the wear & tear parts for both top end Porsche & GT-R are expensive.

 

 

 

i dont agree with that - but even so, whats your point exactly? im not sure what you are disagreeing about..... I already said the Porsche would probably be a cheaper car to race.

 

Hi dude, you need to relax a bit, making a statement or two doesn't mean I am disagreeing or agreeing with you. It wasn't even directed to you, just continue my comments on this thread (after the price question). Yes, I got it, you know how to pay to play. Why so defensive?

 

Did you offense so many people so often that, that you automatically assume people are correcting or arguing with you when they made a statement, quoting your comments.

 

By the way, a new GTR cost 90k, if you are quoting US figures. The 69k price was the yesteryear models. I didn't look out for your other figures, as I have no interest in the other cars, but assuming your other figures are right, The GT3 does cost almost 3 times more, as you said, but still the GT3 is pretty close to the price of a GT-R.

 

See not every comments need to end in an argument, & people can agree with you when you are right, & they admit they may be wrong.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

 

[Lammy84]

The GTR does not match the GT2/3 in performance.

 

That famous ring result which came out was compared to a turbo 911 no???

 

Just curious

[Badder]

The GTR does not match the GT2/3 in performance.

 

That famous ring result which came out was compared to a turbo 911 no???

 

Just curious

 

In straight line acceleration GTR is faster than GT2/GT3 and same as 911 Turbo

 

 

[Badder]

Hi dude, you need to relax a bit, making a statement or two doesn't mean I am disagreeing or agreeing with you. It wasn't even directed to you, just continue my comments on this thread (after the price question). Yes, I got it, you know how to pay to play. Why so defensive?

 

Did you offense so many people so often that, that you automatically assume people are correcting or arguing with you when they made a statement, quoting your comments.

 

By the way, a new GTR cost 90k, if you are quoting US figures. The 69k price was the yesteryear models. I didn't look out for your other figures, as I have no interest in the other cars, but assuming your other figures are right, The GT3 does cost almost 3 times more, as you said, but still the GT3 is pretty close to the price of a GT-R.

 

See not every comments need to end in an argument, & people can agree with you when you are right, & they admit they may be wrong.

 

Have a nice day.

 

 

Hi dude, you need to relax a bit, making a statement or two doesn't mean I am disagreeing or agreeing with you

 

You think US$100,000 is "pretty close"???

 

As far as comparing to porsche...the GTR is quite a lot faster than a GT3 or even a GT2. (which are the prices your looking at) so you need to compare it to a car with closer/same performance, eg:-

 

 

take a look here at the porsche models here and consider the GTR 0-60 is under 3 secs.....

 

http://www.zeroto60times.com/Porsche-0-60-mph-Times.html

 

 

none of the porsches can beat that.

 

taking a look at the prices of the ones that come close:-

 

 

2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 $185,000 source:

 

http://www.rsportscars.com/porsche/2011_po...e_911_gt3_rs_4/

 

 

 

 

2011 Porsche 911 GT2 RS $245,000

 

http://www.rsportscars.com/porsche/porsche-911-gt2-rs/

 

 

 

2011 Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet $170,200

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/NewsCe...spx?mmysid=3677

 

 

 

 

 

and finally we have the GTR

 

 

 

 

2011 Nissan GT-R $84,000

 

 

http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-car-buying/nissan/gt-r/#

 

 

so

 

You can buy 3 GTRS for price of a GT2 RS, or 2+ for price of GT2 RS or 2 for price of Turbo S

 

 

 

The exact figures dont matter - all that does is the fact that the GTR is a heck of a lot cheaper car for same/better performance

Edited November 25, 2011 by Badder

[KARTer]

is that a gokart?

yes.... for the price of front brakes of performance full size car (maybe even less) you get the thrills of high Gs and quick 0-100, and you can experiement with all kinds of racing techniques/craft, bumper to bumper actions, or just bump the guy in front / on your side off the track if you are nasty

 

if you're fearless enough, you get airborn and land in the opp direction (not recommended).

 

then on public roads, just drive your daily car as law-abidding as you could...

 

of course you can also spend up to 20k for a brand new one

 

it does feel like 2.7 sec when it's not....

[Badder]

brudder, how fast you can go in a race track? 250kph?? 300kph??? longer wheel base will help in high speed stability no doubt, but i dun see any elise run like a wild horse at above 200kph lo.

 

top speed of exige is 273km/h

 

I can assure you at that speed you need to worry about aerodynamic lift and stability

 

when lotus built the GT3 endurance race cars they extended the exige chassis for just this reason.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... i did a 260kph on my ride for more then 10 mins, at 2.6m wheel base, i am very comfortable with the stability on my ride.

im very happy for you. well done - have a cookie. this proves what exactly?

Im not sure what your point is. Mine is that as you increase speed you are better off increasing wheelbase - its physics. You can argue with physics if you want but that would be a bit daft.

every modification with a purpose in mind. just like the FQ-400 had in mind of getting super power at high rev, while the satria had in mind was to drag like to tomorrow.

yeeeaaahhhss.....and your point is?

 

when ppl mention gtr, u said ur lotus smoked it in a short course, to me, NPNT. say whatever you want. i can also tell you that my STI smoke a F458 ytd in a straight line at over 300kph, but i dun have a prove to show.

i have no idea what you point is. My point in mentioning i smoked the r35 on the short course was tp point out lap time isnt just about straight line speed. a short course with lots of low speed corners a lower power lighter car can be faster. Not showing off - its physics. You can argue with physics if you want but that would be a bit daft.

when ppl mentioned super high power modified car, you say short wheel base make those car run like wild horse.... wonder have you seen any drag race b4, do they maintain >250kph for more than 10 sec????

please learn to read. I said the shape of the car is important. the wheelbase compared to the cars width. Take a look at land speed record cars - long and thin, take a look at high speed boats - long and thin. From a stability perspective if you increase length v width you gain stability. again this is physics - you can argue against physics if you want but that would be a bit daft Edited November 25, 2011 by Badder

[KARTer]

how do we compare service intervals and typical price for each service? GTR vs Porsche.

 

based on what i was told, GTR is more expensive to maintain, or its not true?

 

Hi dude, you need to relax a bit, making a statement or two doesn't mean I am disagreeing or agreeing with you

 

You think US$100,000 is "pretty close"???

 

As far as comparing to porsche...the GTR is quite a lot faster than a GT3 or even a GT2. (which are the prices your looking at) so you need to compare it to a car with closer/same performance, eg:-

 

 

take a look here at the porsche models here and consider the GTR 0-60 is under 3 secs.....

 

http://www.zeroto60times.com/Porsche-0-60-mph-Times.html

 

 

none of the porsches can beat that.

 

taking a look at the prices of the ones that come close:-

 

 

2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 $185,000 source:

 

http://www.rsportscars.com/porsche/2011_po...e_911_gt3_rs_4/

 

 

 

 

2011 Porsche 911 GT2 RS $245,000

 

http://www.rsportscars.com/porsche/porsche-911-gt2-rs/

 

 

 

2011 Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet $170,200

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/NewsCe...spx?mmysid=3677

 

 

 

 

 

and finally we have the GTR

 

 

 

 

2011 Nissan GT-R $84,000

 

 

http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-car-buying/nissan/gt-r/#

 

 

so

 

You can buy 3 GTRS for price of a GT2 RS, or 2+ for price of GT2 RS or 2 for price of Turbo S

 

 

 

The exact figures dont matter - all that does is the fact that the GTR is a heck of a lot cheaper car for same/better performance