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This is plainly an assumption that everybody else is stupid and cannot differentiate what is good or bad for them.

 

Such condescending arrogance insulting people of their intelligence. [mad]

 

agree. in a democracy, especially one where ppl are encouraged to think for themselves, there's freedom to pursue happiness. Look at the West, they have political movies media every now and then but the country goes on. Ppl love their country. Just look at how the Bostonians cheered when the terrorists were caught.

 

Like what that funny movie say, you can hate yr govt but love yr country. I think in recent years, many Sporeans spoke out, but they want the best for the country. If we only think one party can think properly and the rest are just idiots, we are approaching our downfall. Miw just needs to wake up to the fact they alone cannot have all the answers.

 

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if the govt is doing a good job, would ppl be so easily incited to hate the govt?

agree. but we won't know when is the time the rots sets in and the job is deteriorating. a statute should be set in such way it takes care of potential political and governance climate changes in future as well.

 

then you got to think what power this act confers the govt right? the choice is theirs to activate this act if you criticise them and there is no disclaimer that states that it is not seditious if in fact the material that "incites feelings against govt", is factually correct.

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yes we can have expectation. but to be fair on this case. the call him out because he refuse to remove and apologise.

 

if he had remove and apologise and still got called up, then we can say not fair.

 

if he dont want to remove the AGC comment fair enough if he want to insist. but not removing the racist one??

Little lost here, did the said mp refuse to remove what he post? [:)] Quite an old case, sorry to dig it up.

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agree. but we won't know when is the time the rots sets in and the job is deteriorating. a statute should be set in such way it takes care of potential political and governance climate changes in future as well.

 

then you got to think what power this act confers the govt right? the choice is theirs to activate this act if you criticise them and there is no disclaimer that states that it is not seditious if in fact the material that "incites feelings against govt", is factually correct.

There are good govt, and there are not so good ones. A constitutional tool or mechanism which can be abused to protect the latter can be a dangerous one at the expense of the people who suffer therefore voice their dissatisfaction regarding the latter. [:(]

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Little lost here, did the said mp refuse to remove what he post? [:)] Quite an old case, sorry to dig it up.

 

thought my sentence very clear???

 

other case all remove and apologise. this case refuse.

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agree. in a democracy, especially one where ppl are encouraged to think for themselves, there's freedom to pursue happiness. Look at the West, they have political movies media every now and then but the country goes on. Ppl love their country. Just look at how the Bostonians cheered when the terrorists were caught.

 

Like what that funny movie say, you can hate yr govt but love yr country. I think in recent years, many Sporeans spoke out, but they want the best for the country. If we only think one party can think properly and the rest are just idiots, we are approaching our downfall. Miw just needs to wake up to the fact they alone cannot have all the answers.

I generally agreed with the views you shared here [:)]

 

There will be people who manipulate things using ideas they disguised as democracy principles for their own agenda which may not be in the interest of the country. Matured citizens can see through such tactics and will reject these people. The question will be are the majority mature enough and not be misled easily? A positive reply to this could mean harsh rules against things like free speech may no longer be unnecessary.

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thought my sentence very clear???

 

other case all remove and apologise. this case refuse.

But i think he was arrested, then warned to apologise? The other 2 no arrests were made

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i remember their websites got lots of such funny cartoons of their president including one with george bush as a monkey.

 

also OBAMA IS THE ANTI CHRIST!

imagine if you said somebody else in singapore is the anti christ, how many laws could be used against you

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Apologies will be in order when the comments can be readily proven wrong, or they violate basic general belief what is good/evil.

 

However, if the comments cannot be, or have yet to be proven wrong, maybe the "offended" party should first prove that the comments are wrong before asking for punishment?

 

To be fair, the person making the comments should also give reasons for the comments.

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Let me put it this way to you. Without effective supporting statements, your viewpoint remain as a hollow opinion. Except that it rankles. It is does not help that it is actually a sweeping statement if you realise.

 

Aren't we all expressing our opinions, regardless hollow or not? Yes my opinion may be deem hollow to you but it's not like I'm shoving it down your throat. I'm not even disagreeing on anyone and dictating my opinion to all unlike some other banned members there.

 

And with that what I get? I kena said I'm arrogant or insulting people's intelligence??

 

Maybe the word I put ain't very tactful, I should have put "some people" instead of "people" which is implying to all. Whosever foot I step on I have no intentions.

 

 

And dude, this is the 2nd time you shoot me. I hope you are not "marking" me or something, else it'll be damn stressed to post anything at all.

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There will be people who manipulate things using ideas they disguised as democracy principles for their own agenda which may not be in the interest of the country. Matured citizens can see through such tactics and will reject these people. The question will be are the majority mature enough and not be misled easily? A positive reply to this could mean harsh rules against things like free speech may no longer be unnecessary.

 

This is the point I'm trying to drive across. Maybe my command of language and expression is not tactful enough that people misunderstood me. -_-

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on the practical side, say if someone says "the hdb policies are wrong", gave examples of his argument and conclude that with such wrong policies, they are marginalising certain group of people.

 

in such cases, it is always hard to prove without doubt, which person's example is right. because you cannot simulate it as if it is a computer program and then show you are correct. so does it mean that no one should speak on anything they cannot conclusively prove even though they know it is correct? are we as a society expected to remain mute as a lot of discussions cannot be conclusively proven?

 

 

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Even the rednecks overseas sometimes can give reasonable appreciations of issues before making their stand. CanT really say the same with somel Singaporeans who tend to follow what they are told and follow the crowd without thinking through the issue. "Don't rock the boat, regardless/at all costs" seems to be their blanket response. Does the food and water / air here help "nurtured" such a mindset?

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on the practical side, say if someone says "the hdb policies are wrong", gave examples of his argument and conclude that with such wrong policies, they are marginalising certain group of people.

 

in such cases, it is always hard to prove without doubt, which person's example is right. because you cannot simulate it as if it is a computer program and then show you are correct. so does it mean that no one should speak on anything they cannot conclusively prove even though they know it is correct? are we as a society expected to remain mute as a lot of discussions cannot be conclusively proven?

I agree. In such cases, maybe all parties should keep an open verdict as far as defamation etc is concerned?

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