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[Icedbs]

http://entertainment.inquirer.net/105987/y...apprentice-asia

 

I watched the final episode, Filipino vs Singaporean and the Pinoy guy is really good......

 

Despite the fact that the Sporean is a lawyer, the Pinoy actually communicates better during the charity auction and inside the boardroom when Tony Fenandes asked them why they should be the first Apprentice Asia.

 

As the saying goes, sometimes it is not just capability, but your ability to communicate and market your capability.

 

 

[Porker]

So is he gonna be in charge of phone customer service in Fernandes' company or are there other roles for him?

[Scion]

yawn... Pinoy pride?

[Icedbs]

So is he gonna be in charge of phone customer service in Fernandes' company or are there other roles for him?

 

Dunno...but in the show, seems like the apprentice will work direct with Fernandes.

[Watwheels]

Nobody knows for sure. But I think these "actors" will just go back to their old lifes. Reality shows are not that real anyway.

[Jman888]

So is he gonna be in charge of phone customer service in Fernandes' company or are there other roles for him?

 

 

to be one of drivers in his F1 team

[Icedbs]

Actually the Sporean lawyer is pretty good too, but I guess it's just our nature that we are not as vocal and communicative as other nationalities and that's really a big setback in the corporate world.

 

In the corporate sector, strong communication is really key in everything they do.

[1fast1]

Actually the Sporean lawyer is pretty good too, but I guess it's just our nature that we are not as vocal and communicative as other nationalities and that's really a big setback in the corporate world.

 

In the corporate sector, strong communication is really key in everything they do.

 

I don't think it should be dismissed as "just our nature". There are many Singaporeans who have an innate ability and desire to vocally and eloquently articulate their own independent opinion, even if it's at odds with higher management's. Problem is that they're often given negative reinforcement by their "consciously Asian" bosses - basically, the nail that sticks out gets hammered down. Soon, they learn their lessons and "get with the program". Potential talent lost. It would take an especially headstrong person to swim against this tide and emerge unscathed.

 

That management attitude has to change from the top down. We cannot afford to be a "Yessir, yessir, three bags full" nation anymore. I think the change has to come right from the tip of the pyramid - the gahmen - but I am leery of politicising this thread. But facts are facts, the gahmen has vested much in breeding so much passivity in the populace - they really want no challenges to their authority or power.

 

Why do we often accept vocal Ang Mohs in management, while decrying our vocal locals? Or even other Asians?

Edited August 2, 2013 by Turboflat4

[Icedbs]

I don't think it should be dismissed as "just our nature". There are many Singaporeans who have an innate ability and desire to vocally and eloquently articulate their own independent opinion, even if it's at odds with higher management's. Problem is that they're often given negative reinforcement by their "consciously Asian" bosses - basically, the nail that sticks out gets hammered down. Soon, they learn their lessons and "get with the program". Potential talent lost. It would take an especially headstrong person to swim against this tide and emerge unscathed.

 

That management attitude has to change from the top down. We cannot afford to be a "Yessir, yessir, three bags full" nation anymore.

 

Why do we often accept vocal Ang Mohs in management, while decrying our vocal locals? Or even other Asians?

 

You have a point, but I do think that this "reserveness" started even before some get into their work life. Perhaps its our culture to be "quiet"

 

For example, many years ago, I was giving seminars in universities. Sporean students are generally quiet, no questions or just very few. Very layback or shy, I am not sure. But when I do the same seminars in China, gosh, I can't answer fast enough. The PRCs are literally rushing for the microphone. They are extremely vocal and curious, and they just want to know more.

Edited August 2, 2013 by Icedbs

[Joseph22]

You have a point, but I do think that this "reserveness" started even before some get into their work life. Perhaps its our culture to be "quiet"

 

For example, many years ago, I was giving seminars in universities. Sporean students are generally quiet, no questions or just very few. Very layback or shy, I am not sure. But when I do the same seminars in China, gosh, I can't answer fast enough. The PRCs are literally rushing for the microphone. They are extremely vocal and curious, and they just want to know more.

in singapore. been vocal in lecturer ppl will say you waste their time for knocking off early.

 

but some will chose to go look for lecturer themself to ask question as they kiasu scare other ppl also know.

[Lala81]

You have a point, but I do think that this "reserveness" started even before some get into their work life. Perhaps its our culture to be "quiet"

 

For example, many years ago, I was giving seminars in universities. Sporean students are generally quiet, no questions or just very few. Very layback or shy, I am not sure. But when I do the same seminars in China, gosh, I can't answer fast enough. The PRCs are literally rushing for the microphone. They are extremely vocal and curious, and they just want to know more.

 

think times are changing.

now students are quite different.

 

but a loud mouth doesn't mean a good brain. my 2 cents worth.

[Lala81]

in singapore. been vocal in lecturer ppl will say you waste their time for knocking off early.

 

but some will chose to go look for lecturer themself to ask question as they kiasu scare other ppl also know.

 

some times the questions are very "duh" also lah.

Can't blame for pple wanting to siam early

[Sosaria]

As for local students being quiet and reserved, I think these days it more due to laidback / slack attitude, rather than shyness, IMHO.

 

Not hungry anymore, that's why so quiet.

[1fast1]

in singapore. been vocal in lecturer ppl will say you waste their time for knocking off early.

 

One problem with this theory: certain lecturers love to throw questions open to the floor. If the questions get answered quickly, everyone gets to move on - heck, maybe the lecturer can even wrap up early.

 

Yet everyone remains silent as a tombstone. Either everyone's an absolute idiot (very unlikely) or they're just afraid of opening their mouths and giving an answer. If it's a wrong answer, they're afraid of "losing face". If it's a right answer, they're afraid of looking like a show-off. Very depressing attitude.

[Dj_spike]

Oh. She's Singaporean? Tony Fernandes hiring practices abit unique. Thats probably why she lasted till the end. Her lack of experience probably failed her in the finals where she would be expected to punch way above her weight just like that US Masterchef season 2 winner Whitney.

[1fast1]

Anyway, I think students have really changed in the last few years - they're breaking out of their "Asian" mould, and that's a very good thing. The last few lectures I gave had students rushing to answer, and I let them off almost a quarter of an hour early.

[Mustank]

I don't think it should be dismissed as "just our nature". There are many Singaporeans who have an innate ability and desire to vocally and eloquently articulate their own independent opinion, even if it's at odds with higher management's. Problem is that they're often given negative reinforcement by their "consciously Asian" bosses - basically, the nail that sticks out gets hammered down. Soon, they learn their lessons and "get with the program". Potential talent lost. It would take an especially headstrong person to swim against this tide and emerge unscathed.

 

That management attitude has to change from the top down. We cannot afford to be a "Yessir, yessir, three bags full" nation anymore. I think the change has to come right from the tip of the pyramid - the gahmen - but I am leery of politicising this thread. But facts are facts, the gahmen has vested much in breeding so much passivity in the populace - they really want no challenges to their authority or power.

 

Why do we often accept vocal Ang Mohs in management, while decrying our vocal locals? Or even other Asians?

 

hard lah

shave head for charity, ask to wear wig

cannot talk coock on internet, must read the right stuff

 

[Joseph22]

One problem with this theory: certain lecturers love to throw questions open to the floor. If the questions get answered quickly, everyone gets to move on - heck, maybe the lecturer can even wrap up early.

 

Yet everyone remains silent as a tombstone. Either everyone's an absolute idiot (very unlikely) or they're just afraid of opening their mouths and giving an answer. If it's a wrong answer, they're afraid of "losing face". If it's a right answer, they're afraid of looking like a show-off. Very depressing attitude.

i always answer very quickly because i know no one wil lanswer in the class.

 

got advantage too. when doing project. those good student will come look for me cause they know i am willing to go ask teacher for more tips how to do the project.