Changing halogen to LED

[Ka_kia]

Tested the Osram Night Breaker Laser Next Gen
I think the outcome is much better, brighter and throw is longer and it looks much better than stock at about 3200K (temperature)

https://www.osram.com/ecat/NIGHT BREAKER LASER-Halogen headlight lamps-Cars-Automotive Lighting/com/en/GPS01_3043435/PP_EUROPE_Europe_eCat/ZMP_4057692/

[Dafansu]

1 hour ago, Ka_kia said:

Tested the Osram Night Breaker Laser Next Gen
I think the outcome is much better, brighter and throw is longer and it looks much better than stock at about 3200K (temperature)

https://www.osram.com/ecat/NIGHT BREAKER LASER-Halogen headlight lamps-Cars-Automotive Lighting/com/en/GPS01_3043435/PP_EUROPE_Europe_eCat/ZMP_4057692/

Is Night Breaker Laser LTA approved? I know there's another one Night Breaker Unlimited which is LTA approved if i'm not wrong. Laser should be the improved version

[Ka_kia]

53 minutes ago, Dafansu said:

Is Night Breaker Laser LTA approved? I know there's another one Night Breaker Unlimited which is LTA approved if i'm not wrong. Laser should be the improved version

I think is shld not be a problem passing LTA ba.
I refer to the article below

https://www.sgcarmart.com/news/writeup.php?AID=26

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Besides HID lamps, halogen bulbs with whiter light are also allowed. These bulbs are designed to filter out the yellowish spectrum, hence emitting a whiter light which increases visibility at night

Night breaker Unlimited (No next gen i saw before sell in Stamford for $90 odd for 2. Is the latest I think.

For comparison can refer here also.

https://bulbfacts.com/halogen-bulbs/chart/

For the next gen laser i think no regrets getting. Lol. Cost $65 plus for both when I got.

[Watwheels]

On 11/11/2019 at 9:47 AM, Ka_kia said:

Tested the Osram Night Breaker Laser Next Gen
I think the outcome is much better, brighter and throw is longer and it looks much better than stock at about 3200K (temperature)

https://www.osram.com/ecat/NIGHT BREAKER LASER-Halogen headlight lamps-Cars-Automotive Lighting/com/en/GPS01_3043435/PP_EUROPE_Europe_eCat/ZMP_4057692/

Better to monitor the higher temperature halogen bulbs tend to generate. Osram Night Breaker although can generate higher colour temperature the usage life is also shorter than regular halogen bulbs that are not so bright. It's the pro and con of this brand of lightbulbs.

From past experience I notice the heat when I touch the headlight assembly. On rainy days condensation is formed inside the headlight assembly. So I switched to aftermarket LED lightbulbs I bought online. It's much cooler and no forming of condensation in any weather condition.

[Ka_kia]

Lol, somehow wana get pure white de is maybe have to try LED lor. Likely will give it a go. Hahah.

Get those no need canbus type

[Comage]

I have a question on a similar topic:

While inspecting my second-hand vehicle for the halogen light bulb specifications (to change to new set of light bulbs) - I realised that my current vehicle is originally specified to come with HID bulbs (verified by stockist).

I am not sure on how this happened, but it seems that a retrofit of halogen headlamps was done (casing and all) to the current vehicle I own (Toyota).

Now my question is - if I install back the proper HID headlamps (casing and all the works) - is this going to pass LTA inspection?
In other words, does LTA inspection take note of whether you came last year with halogen bulbs?

[mersaylee]

On 5/5/2024 at 2:23 PM, Comage said:

I have a question on a similar topic:

While inspecting my second-hand vehicle for the halogen light bulb specifications (to change to new set of light bulbs) - I realised that my current vehicle is originally specified to come with HID bulbs (verified by stockist).

I am not sure on how this happened, but it seems that a retrofit of halogen headlamps was done (casing and all) to the current vehicle I own (Toyota).

Now my question is - if I install back the proper HID headlamps (casing and all the works) - is this going to pass LTA inspection?
In other words, does LTA inspection take note of whether you came last year with halogen bulbs?

Won't lah. So long within factory spec...it's not like from HID to LED...

Or just go to another inspection centre next time round...usually they are not anal about lights...but strict on exhaust system and body kits...

[Beregond]

On 5/5/2024 at 2:23 PM, Comage said:

I have a question on a similar topic:

While inspecting my second-hand vehicle for the halogen light bulb specifications (to change to new set of light bulbs) - I realised that my current vehicle is originally specified to come with HID bulbs (verified by stockist).

I am not sure on how this happened, but it seems that a retrofit of halogen headlamps was done (casing and all) to the current vehicle I own (Toyota).

Now my question is - if I install back the proper HID headlamps (casing and all the works) - is this going to pass LTA inspection?
In other words, does LTA inspection take note of whether you came last year with halogen bulbs?

They only check if it the same as when the vehicle is register.

 

On 5/5/2024 at 3:20 PM, mersaylee said:

Won't lah. So long within factory spec...it's not like from HID to LED...

Or just go to another inspection centre next time round...usually they are not anal about lights...but strict on exhaust system and body kits...

actually they quite strict, if u halogen go change to led, ( yellow to white) 9/10 u will fail. 

unless that guy eye shoot bird, didnt notice.

[Ceecookie]

On 5/5/2024 at 2:23 PM, Comage said:

I have a question on a similar topic:

While inspecting my second-hand vehicle for the halogen light bulb specifications (to change to new set of light bulbs) - I realised that my current vehicle is originally specified to come with HID bulbs (verified by stockist).

I am not sure on how this happened, but it seems that a retrofit of halogen headlamps was done (casing and all) to the current vehicle I own (Toyota).

Now my question is - if I install back the proper HID headlamps (casing and all the works) - is this going to pass LTA inspection?
In other words, does LTA inspection take note of whether you came last year with halogen bulbs?

Retrofit halogen on original HID (a downgrade actually) won't fail inspection because halogen rarely fail the light test unless they are very misaligned.

However if you retrofit HID to original halogen then will fail inspection if the person notice the car isn't specified with HID in lta records.

You can change back to HID without concerns.. But take note if ur car is newer than 2009, auto leveling is mandatory. If u see manual level button means it's originally halogen 

[Comage]

On 5/5/2024 at 4:13 PM, Ceecookie said:

Retrofit halogen on original HID (a downgrade actually) won't fail inspection because halogen rarely fail the light test unless they are very misaligned.

However if you retrofit HID to original halogen then will fail inspection if the person notice the car isn't specified with HID in lta records.

You can change back to HID without concerns.. But take note if ur car is newer than 2009, auto leveling is mandatory. If u see manual level button means it's originally halogen 

This is weird. I used to own another Toyota that has the manual level button. But that car came with HID bulbs as well. And I never had trouble during inspection (it was a clean HID headlamp set, no bulky external wiring/ballast). 

My current Toyota has no leveling button - and is equipped with halogens... Until I checked with the stockist and realised mine originally comes with HID. 

Now that also got me wondering - why tf would someone retrofit halogens onto a HID-original vehicle? 

[Ct3833]

On 5/5/2024 at 3:20 PM, mersaylee said:

Won't lah. So long within factory spec...it's not like from HID to LED...

Or just go to another inspection centre next time round...usually they are not anal about lights...but strict on exhaust system and body kits...

I tried changing from halogen to LED, one  year pass and the subsequent year fail, i wrote in to LTA to dispute the failure citing energy saving and safety since my headlight are of projector type, they rejected my appeal citing "electircal safety" concern.

 

 

On 5/5/2024 at 2:23 PM, Comage said:

I have a question on a similar topic:

While inspecting my second-hand vehicle for the halogen light bulb specifications (to change to new set of light bulbs) - I realised that my current vehicle is originally specified to come with HID bulbs (verified by stockist).

I am not sure on how this happened, but it seems that a retrofit of halogen headlamps was done (casing and all) to the current vehicle I own (Toyota).

Now my question is - if I install back the proper HID headlamps (casing and all the works) - is this going to pass LTA inspection?
In other words, does LTA inspection take note of whether you came last year with halogen bulbs?

Dont change back to HID(xenon), it will consume more electricity,  and the bulbs are about  50 to 100 times more expensive than the halogen bulbs.  For example a halogen bulb might cost about $1 to $1.50 from stockists, a HID bulb will cost you  about $70 to $100 per piece. now HID might be cheaper because it is less popular.  I have been there and done it, trust me, it does not make you look more sexy in anyway.

Edited May 5, 2024 by Ct3833

[Comage]

On 5/5/2024 at 3:50 PM, Beregond said:

They only check if it the same as when the vehicle is register.

And how does one tell what were the bulbs when it was registered, good Sir? 

[Comage]

@Ct3833 Yes, I'm aware of the cost of HID bulbs over halogens... Though my current halogen bulbs are very dim despite the bulbs themselves being in good condition. 

And my current car is a project car in which I am trying to revert all the nonsense, distasteful mods back to factory stock specifications. 

[Ct3833]

On 5/5/2024 at 5:38 PM, Comage said:

@Ct3833 Yes, I'm aware of the cost of HID bulbs over halogens... Though my current halogen bulbs are very dim despite the bulbs themselves being in good condition. 

And my current car is a project car in which I am trying to revert all the nonsense, distasteful mods back to factory stock specifications. 

Alternatively , you can buy a pair of better halogen bulbs like those philips brand, they might be brighter. but if halogen and being non original bother you, then go put back to HID, especially you are aware of the cost involved. 

[Mkl22]

On 5/5/2024 at 5:08 PM, Comage said:

This is weird. I used to own another Toyota that has the manual level button. But that car came with HID bulbs as well. And I never had trouble during inspection (it was a clean HID headlamp set, no bulky external wiring/ballast). 

My current Toyota has no leveling button - and is equipped with halogens... Until I checked with the stockist and realised mine originally comes with HID. 

Now that also got me wondering - why tf would someone retrofit halogens onto a HID-original vehicle? 

Ballast blow. Cost more to replace than a pair of use halogens from the scrap yard. 

[Mkl22]

On 5/5/2024 at 2:23 PM, Comage said:

I have a question on a similar topic:

While inspecting my second-hand vehicle for the halogen light bulb specifications (to change to new set of light bulbs) - I realised that my current vehicle is originally specified to come with HID bulbs (verified by stockist).

I am not sure on how this happened, but it seems that a retrofit of halogen headlamps was done (casing and all) to the current vehicle I own (Toyota).

Now my question is - if I install back the proper HID headlamps (casing and all the works) - is this going to pass LTA inspection?
In other words, does LTA inspection take note of whether you came last year with halogen bulbs?

Yes they do verify. If you model originally does not come with HID, you will fail and ask to go back to original. 

Edited May 5, 2024 by Mkl22

[Ct3833]

On 5/5/2024 at 2:23 PM, Comage said:

I have a question on a similar topic:

While inspecting my second-hand vehicle for the halogen light bulb specifications (to change to new set of light bulbs) - I realised that my current vehicle is originally specified to come with HID bulbs (verified by stockist).

I am not sure on how this happened, but it seems that a retrofit of halogen headlamps was done (casing and all) to the current vehicle I own (Toyota).

Now my question is - if I install back the proper HID headlamps (casing and all the works) - is this going to pass LTA inspection?
In other words, does LTA inspection take note of whether you came last year with halogen bulbs?

Forgot to answer your question, they dont care whether last year your car pass inspection or not, the focus is the current state and condition of your car. 

[Ceecookie]

On 5/5/2024 at 5:08 PM, Comage said:

This is weird. I used to own another Toyota that has the manual level button. But that car came with HID bulbs as well. And I never had trouble during inspection (it was a clean HID headlamp set, no bulky external wiring/ballast). 

My current Toyota has no leveling button - and is equipped with halogens... Until I checked with the stockist and realised mine originally comes with HID. 

Now that also got me wondering - why tf would someone retrofit halogens onto a HID-original vehicle? 

Was your other Toyota registered before 1 Jan 2010? This was the cutoff date that LTA allowed HID cars to be adjustable via manual lever/switch. From 2010 onward, it must be automatically done by the car system.