Near accident with cyclist 16dec 2015

[Sabian]

This reminded me of something I saw on CNA this morning! Another idiot cyclist (who wasn't so lucky)...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBmhmy6Hf1w

Trains in Poland must be super silent or was the cyclist counting his kkj mor?

[Hubwee]

The administrative costs would be significantly high.  Plus you are hitting a lot of low income workers too who don't really have too many transport options, do we want to burden a vulnerable income group even more? 

 

If it helps to force more cyclists to obey traffic rules and reduces the unhappiness between drivers and cyclists , why not ? 

 

There is always the public transport available in Singapore , so dun think anyone can complain about not having enough transport options in Singapore .  

[Weez911]

The administrative costs would be significantly high. Plus you are hitting a lot of low income workers too who don't really have too many transport options, do we want to burden a vulnerable income group even more?

What's wrong with collecting more tax and registration fee? Motorists aren't the only people using the road.

[Taipan49]

If it helps to force more cyclists to obey traffic rules and reduces the unhappiness between drivers and cyclists , why not ? 

 

There is always the public transport available in Singapore , so dun think anyone can complain about not having enough transport options in Singapore .  

 

My father in law starts work before 6.  Has the choice of 2 buses that takes 40min plus, or 10min cycle.  He is in that low income group.

 

Well motorists don't seem to obey the traffic rules too well if you look at the statistics in 2014.  If they were obeying the numbers should be zero: http://driving-in-singapore.spf.gov.sg/services/driving_in_singapore/documents/Annual_Road_Traffic_Stats.pdf

[Hubwee]

W/o ID plate authorities also can enforce, what's stopping them?

 

Do you think drivers behave better than cyclist?

 

You will have to ask the authorities what's stopping them , not ask me .  

 

I have never in any of my posts claims that drivers behaves better than cyclist or vice versa , so I dun understands your question .

 

What I do wish for is , a fair system where every vehicles on public roads , no matter whether its a car / e bike , bicycles or lorries to be ID so that in the event , one breaks the rules , he / she can be identified to face the consequences he or she may have caused .  

 

Cyclists demands their space on public roads , which is fair . Then why should bicycles not have a ID plate when all other vehicles on public roads have one ??

[Taipan49]

What's wrong with collecting more tax and registration fee? Motorists aren't the only people using the road.

 

Road tax is calculated on engine size.  So if you apply that to bicycles, then current tax is about right.

[Weez911]

Road tax is calculated on engine size. So if you apply that to bicycles, then current tax is about right.

Dun worry, I can help LTA formulate a plan for cyclist. My view is that they shd pay road tax to help maintain our road too, since they use lane 1 to lane 5.

 

Best is they get insurance and registered too, like the rest of road users.

Edited December 18, 2015 by Weez911

[Hubwee]

My father in law starts work before 6.  Has the choice of 2 buses that takes 40min plus, or 10min cycle.  He is in that low income group.

 

Well motorists don't seem to obey the traffic rules too well if you look at the statistics in 2014.  If they were obeying the numbers should be zero: http://driving-in-singapore.spf.gov.sg/services/driving_in_singapore/documents/Annual_Road_Traffic_Stats.pdf

 

Am sorry , if he cannot afford to pay to get his bicycle registered , then he will have to spend more time taking the bus . Isn't it the same for people who cannot afford paying for COE to buy cars / motorcycles ?? Does it means that our government will have to give out free COE to the lower income groups so that they can buy cars to shorten their travelling time ?

 

I have never mentioned or think that drivers or motorists obeys rules better than cyclists . There will always be the law abiding drivers / motorists and drivers / motorists who dun obeys traffic rules . But all vehicles on public roads are registered and ID , so why should bicycles / e bikes be any different ?

[Donut]

Trains in Poland must be super silent or was the cyclist counting his kkj mor?

 

The barrier already put down, so obviously its a sign telling everyone that a train is coming. But the idiotic cyclist thought he can beat the train (he purposely cycle around the barrier and go past it).  

[SGCMmaomao]

fast reaction...! Lucky u lucky cyclist... Hope this shithead learnt his lesson.

[flashbang]

Bro, I'm not trying to advocate riding close to cyclist or knock them down.

 

Just clarifying the law.

Now I'm also puzzled why you want to clarify the law. Whether got law or not, once you knock a cyclist down, you are definitely in some trouble. There is always the broad laws to cover all sorts of incidents under inconsiderate/reckless driving.

[Weez911]

Now I'm also puzzled why you want to clarify the law. Whether got law or not, once you knock a cyclist down, you are definitely in some trouble. There is always the broad laws to cover all sorts of incidents under inconsiderate/reckless driving.

These are 2 separate issues. First, I don't want you to read the law wrongly (1.5m is not a law). Yet, I also do not advocate knocking cyclists.

[Nzy]

These are 2 separate issues. First, I don't want you to read the law wrongly (1.5m is not a law). Yet, I also do not advocate knocking cyclists.

 

I think it is not a must to keep 1.5m gap. But it is recommended. As long as you overtake with 1.5m gap, you should be safe from the TP and the cyclist will be safe from your car.

[Nzy]

Am sorry , if he cannot afford to pay to get his bicycle registered , then he will have to spend more time taking the bus . Isn't it the same for people who cannot afford paying for COE to buy cars / motorcycles ?? Does it means that our government will have to give out free COE to the lower income groups so that they can buy cars to shorten their travelling time ?

 

I have never mentioned or think that drivers or motorists obeys rules better than cyclists . There will always be the law abiding drivers / motorists and drivers / motorists who dun obeys traffic rules . But all vehicles on public roads are registered and ID , so why should bicycles / e bikes be any different ?

 

You just answered why cyclists are not required to be registered. Yet. It is the cheapest form of transport. In a way, the govt is giving out free COE to this group of low-income people. The bicycles. if they start to make bicycles get registered, either they pass on the cost to the cars to keep cycling the cheapest mode of transport or make cycling expensive. Furthermore, it has been proven that cycling is the way to go for small cities, and Singapore definitely qualifies as one. Why would the govt want to go backwards?

 

Off Topic: Recently the roads have been made more cyclist friendly. Most of the drain covers at the side of the roads have been changed to become perpendicular to the road direction rather than parallel like they used to be. Noticed this around Bishan and Thomson area already. They have been changing them to the new covers over the past few weeks. Hopefully this will get more people to start cycling. The fear of getting stuck in these drain covers and being thrown over the bicycle was one of the fears I had to overcome before I dared to cycle on the road.

[inlinesix]

Dun worry, I can help LTA formulate a plan for cyclist. My view is that they shd pay road tax to help maintain our road too, since they use lane 1 to lane 5.

 

Best is they get insurance and registered too, like the rest of road users.

 

Road tax is not used to maintain our road according to LTA.

 

The spirit of law behind insurance is to protect against 3rd party bodily injury or death.  Could bicycle hit a car & kill the driver?

Am sorry , if he cannot afford to pay to get his bicycle registered , then he will have to spend more time taking the bus . Isn't it the same for people who cannot afford paying for COE to buy cars / motorcycles ?? Does it means that our government will have to give out free COE to the lower income groups so that they can buy cars to shorten their travelling time ?

 

I have never mentioned or think that drivers or motorists obeys rules better than cyclists . There will always be the law abiding drivers / motorists and drivers / motorists who dun obeys traffic rules . But all vehicles on public roads are registered and ID , so why should bicycles / e bikes be any different ?

 

YOU ARE A CRUEL PERSON.

 

You are forcing a Bangla who earns few hundred dollars a month to spent $$$ to take bus rather than a $60 bike.

[Weez911]

Road tax is not used to maintain our road according to LTA.

 

The spirit of law behind insurance is to protect against 3rd party bodily injury or death. Could bicycle hit a car & kill the driver?

 

 

YOU ARE A CRUEL PERSON.

 

You are forcing a Bangla who earns few hundred dollars a month to spent $$$ to take bus rather than a $60 bike.

Injuries to pedestrian? Damage to side mirrors? Do you know how much will C&C and PML quote you if you break the side mirrors? Pray that you don't break one of those LED adaptive lights, it's more than 10k each side.

 

Is there a need to use capital letters? I think one of the forum rules state that caps are equivalent to shouting. Should we all respect these rules?

I think it is not a must to keep 1.5m gap. But it is recommended. As long as you overtake with 1.5m gap, you should be safe from the TP and the cyclist will be safe from your car.

Again, we are in a merry-go-round.

Edited December 18, 2015 by Weez911

[Hubwee]

Injuries to pedestrian? Damage to side mirrors? Do you know how much will C&C and PML quote you if you break the side mirrors? Pray that you don't break one of those LED adaptive lights, it's more than 10k each side.

 

Is there a need to use capital letters? I think one of the forum rules state that caps are equivalent to shouting. Should we all respect these rules?

 

Again, we are in a merry-go-round.

Hi , why bother to reply to a loser like him whom starts name calling when someone dun agree with what he thinks ? Pity his family and friends and hopefully he does not have any children , if not I cannot imagine what kind of examples he will be setting for his kids .

 

A loser like mentality who behaves almighty and thinks that he know it all .....

Edited December 18, 2015 by Hubwee

[Hubwee]

You just answered why cyclists are not required to be registered. Yet. It is the cheapest form of transport. In a way, the govt is giving out free COE to this group of low-income people. The bicycles. if they start to make bicycles get registered, either they pass on the cost to the cars to keep cycling the cheapest mode of transport or make cycling expensive. Furthermore, it has been proven that cycling is the way to go for small cities, and Singapore definitely qualifies as one. Why would the govt want to go backwards?

 

Off Topic: Recently the roads have been made more cyclist friendly. Most of the drain covers at the side of the roads have been changed to become perpendicular to the road direction rather than parallel like they used to be. Noticed this around Bishan and Thomson area already. They have been changing them to the new covers over the past few weeks. Hopefully this will get more people to start cycling. The fear of getting stuck in these drain covers and being thrown over the bicycle was one of the fears I had to overcome before I dared to cycle on the road.

So what happens if someone cannot afford a bicycle ?? Government needs to give them one for free ??

 

As I have previously explained , I dun have any issues with bicycles on public roads , I just cannot understand why all vehicles on public roads needs to be registered but not bicycles .

 

Lots of cyclists are requesting or even demanding their equal rights to public road use , if that is case , then same rules should apply with regards to registration .