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BPL 16/17 - The Exciting Season Begins Part 1


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From what I see, ManU rush in Rashford in full game too early. He have not mature and experience enough for full game ..... :wut:

 

He plays well when on bench coming in for someone but now, look at him, he was lost and always out of position. Yes his running was fast but heading nowhere with his crosses from either sides .. :wacko:

 

Ever since he received a new contract (increase in $$$$), he was not himself .. :slow:

ya, i feel that also.

 

JM should not fall to pressure to start him just cause he score from sub.

 

he alway try to take on too many players at a time.

 

maybe man u is better off playing the same players as from game 1.

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ya, i feel that also.

 

JM should not fall to pressure to start him just cause he score from sub.

 

he alway try to take on too many players at a time.

 

maybe man u is better off playing the same players as from game 1.

 

agreed ... :we-all-gonna-die:

 

Look at Klopp, he still wouldn't starts those youngsters promoted to the bench. Look at Gujic & Steward and few youngsters, all still have not start in any full game with the 1st team.. :that-dood-is-up-to-something:

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agreed ... :we-all-gonna-die:

 

Look at Klopp, he still wouldn't starts those youngsters promoted to the bench. Look at Gujic & Steward and few youngsters, all still have not start in any full game with the 1st team.. :that-dood-is-up-to-something:

Actually, I think it's the other way round. JM doesn't have a history of starting youngsters and I don't think he will bow to pressure so IMO, Rashford has earned it.

 

Klopp on the other hand is a developer as many have posted here previously so between him and JM, he is more likely to start a youngster. Trouble is I don't think any of Pool's youngsters are at that level yet and hence Klopp has not started any though Kevin Stewart has a better chance then the rest.

ya, i feel that also.

 

JM should not fall to pressure to start him just cause he score from sub.

 

he alway try to take on too many players at a time.

 

maybe man u is better off playing the same players as from game 1.

 

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It is official.

 

Martial's goal vs Stoke has been voted Man Utd's Goal of the Month for October. Apparently, the choice is unanimous, 100% voted for it.

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Actually, I think it's the other way round. JM doesn't have a history of starting youngsters and I don't think he will bow to pressure so IMO, Rashford has earned it.

 

Klopp on the other hand is a developer as many have posted here previously so between him and JM, he is more likely to start a youngster. Trouble is I don't think any of Pool's youngsters are at that level yet and hence Klopp has not started any though Kevin Stewart has a better chance then the rest.

I agree. Rashford I believe, is not making an impact as he starts in an unfamiliar position.

 

As for Klopp, he is easing them in. The EFL Cup run will be a platform for them

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Danny Ings out for the rest of the season with a knee injury. This time is the right knee, not ACL.

 

Gutted

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Danny Ings out for the rest of the season with a knee injury. This time is the right knee, not ACL.

 

Gutted

 

What??? 

you can't be serious, right? 

 

Since when did Sturridge pass the bug to him? Not since Hargreaves has anyone been so suay...

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Just watched the 2nd half of MC - WBA game.

 

After Gundogan replaced si gina, he scored 2 clinical goals. He's more decisive than Nolito in front of goal.

 

Good to see them ditched habitual 2 touch football and went for more one touch quick push up front.

 

Looking forward to catch how they beat barca at home...

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Really disappointed with Spurs losing at home for the 2nd time in the UCL n now they are in danger of not progressing to the k/o stages n worse still they might drop into UEL which will severely hamper their hopes of getting into top 4. Is it the Wembley curse which seems to plague English teams in Europe at aruguably the home of football? I don't quite believe in such things but afterwhile this kind of myth becomes a truth if it's repeated.

 

Happier for Leicester as they are almost through but hope they can finish top to avoid a group winner. I wish the English UEL teams good luck for tonite!!

 

On a separate note, reading Messi getting into a tunnel scuffle with a City player the previous night n heated words exchanged. Would love to see him play his trade in EPL to settle this argument if he really is the best player in the World n Neymar as well. After all CR7 n Suarez has already played in England. If not mistaken, his goal against City was his first against an EPL team(I could be wrong on this).

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On a separate note, reading Messi getting into a tunnel scuffle with a City player the previous night n heated words exchanged. Would love to see him play his trade in EPL to settle this argument if he really is the best player in the World n Neymar as well. After all CR7 n Suarez has already played in England. If not mistaken, his goal against City was his first against an EPL team(I could be wrong on this).

Beg to differ. Messi does not need to come to EPL to prove anything. I mean who is to say EPL is the ultimate testing ground? Must play in EPL before you can be claimed to be the best? Sorry I don't buy that.

 

CR7 and Suarez just happened that in their careers, they played for an English club first before getting their dream move to Spain. Both Man Utd and Liverpool can't stop CR7 and Suarez from leaving when the Spanish giants come calling.

 

Messi is currently playing for a team that Suarez, who terrorised the EPL defenses with Liverpool is playing in. Is Messi looking inferior to Suarez? Messi is regarded by many as a better player than CR7 during the recent years of rivalry from 2010-15 with 4 Ballon D'Or wins compared to 2. So is there really anything to prove?

 

Ok, one may say Messi will fail because EPL is more physical. I think many are having the same concern when technical players like Silva, Ozil, Aguero and Sanchez making the switch from La Liga. How did they fare?

 

As for Messi scoring record against English teams? Have a read here: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/british-team-lionel-messi-best-7418683?

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Beg to differ. Messi does not need to come to EPL to prove anything. I mean who is to say EPL is the ultimate testing ground? Must play in EPL before you can be claimed to be the best? Sorry I don't buy that.

 

CR7 and Suarez just happened that in their careers, they played for an English club first before getting their dream move to Spain. Both Man Utd and Liverpool can't stop CR7 and Suarez from leaving when the Spanish giants come calling.

 

Messi is currently playing for a team that Suarez, who terrorised the EPL defenses with Liverpool is playing in. Is Messi looking inferior to Suarez? Messi is regarded by many as a better player than CR7 during the recent years of rivalry from 2010-15 with 4 Ballon D'Or wins compared to 2. So is there really anything to prove?

 

Ok, one may say Messi will fail because EPL is more physical. I think many are having the same concern when technical players like Silva, Ozil, Aguero and Sanchez making the switch from La Liga. How did they fare?

 

As for Messi scoring record against English teams? Have a read here: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/british-team-lionel-messi-best-7418683?

You may have your opinion which I will respect and I'm not saying EPL is the ultimate testing ground. All I'm saying is that it's a test of one's capabilities if you are able to play in different Leagues and still produce the goods. Suarez and CR7 have played in 3 different Leagues at least whereas Messi has played only in 1 that's my point and if he continues his goal scoring records in EPL then he can truly claim to be the best there is though he may not be interested in doing so. 

 

The best players in the World challenge themselves and sometimes they even move clubs if they feel they have done everything there is and to me that's a mark of a top player. Being complacent in your comfort zone is easy which many of the English players are also guilty of as well cos not many challenge themselves to venture to other Leagues and that's why we can applaud Bale for moving to a different league with the language and culture differences. 

 

Yes Messi may have nothing to prove as far as he is concerned but if I were him I would challenge myself in other environments for professional pride and fulfillment if nothing else, my 2 cents.

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Beg to differ. Messi does not need to come to EPL to prove anything. I mean who is to say EPL is the ultimate testing ground? Must play in EPL before you can be claimed to be the best? Sorry I don't buy that.

 

 

 

Agree to an extent.

 

He definitely doesn't need to come to EPL to prove that he is the best player. I feel he has been vastly superior to CR7 these last few years. Even on the year when CR7 got the D'Or... which a lot of commentators felt cos he was whining for it and was complaining FIFA will only give to Messi for whatever reason. Don't remember which year that was

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Beg to differ. Messi does not need to come to EPL to prove anything. I mean who is to say EPL is the ultimate testing ground? Must play in EPL before you can be claimed to be the best? Sorry I don't buy that.

 

CR7 and Suarez just happened that in their careers, they played for an English club first before getting their dream move to Spain. Both Man Utd and Liverpool can't stop CR7 and Suarez from leaving when the Spanish giants come calling.

 

Messi is currently playing for a team that Suarez, who terrorised the EPL defenses with Liverpool is playing in. Is Messi looking inferior to Suarez? Messi is regarded by many as a better player than CR7 during the recent years of rivalry from 2010-15 with 4 Ballon D'Or wins compared to 2. So is there really anything to prove?

 

Ok, one may say Messi will fail because EPL is more physical. I think many are having the same concern when technical players like Silva, Ozil, Aguero and Sanchez making the switch from La Liga. How did they fare?

 

As for Messi scoring record against English teams? Have a read here: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/british-team-lionel-messi-best-7418683?

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/luis-suarez-explains-difference-between-7361879

 

http://www.soccerladuma.co.za/news/articles/categories/messi-ronaldo-neymar-watch-1/cristiano-ronaldo-explains-difference-between-premier-league-la-lga/223070

 

http://www.insidefutbol.com/2016/04/26/mauricio-pochettino-assesses-difference-between-la-liga-and-premier-league/282867/

 

http://www.the42.ie/mourino-talks-la-liga-premier-league-2111724-May2015/

 

Is EPL the best, i don't think so... is it the most demanding, yes i think... just because it is more competitive....

 

which, in my opinion, means you have to be close to 100% for all games... while in La Liga, Barca does not have to be at their best for most games... the last interview by mourhino says its all...

 

Messi may be the best technical player and he does not have anything to prove about that..... but can he survive the EPL and playing at 100% at all times? not too sure about that

You may have your opinion which I will respect and I'm not saying EPL is the ultimate testing ground. All I'm saying is that it's a test of one's capabilities if you are able to play in different Leagues and still produce the goods. Suarez and CR7 have played in 3 different Leagues at least whereas Messi has played only in 1 that's my point and if he continues his goal scoring records in EPL then he can truly claim to be the best there is though he may not be interested in doing so. 

 

The best players in the World challenge themselves and sometimes they even move clubs if they feel they have done everything there is and to me that's a mark of a top player. Being complacent in your comfort zone is easy which many of the English players are also guilty of as well cos not many challenge themselves to venture to other Leagues and that's why we can applaud Bale for moving to a different league with the language and culture differences. 

 

Yes Messi may have nothing to prove as far as he is concerned but if I were him I would challenge myself in other environments for professional pride and fulfillment if nothing else, my 2 cents.

 

agree

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