VES 2018

[blmg]

Well, as for me, I go to certain cars tat I targeted and went to chk the specs. E.g, Honda Cars quite easy becas KM website shows all the specs of their selling cars. E.g:-

  

Fuel Consumption Fuel Consumption L/100km 5.9 CO₂ Emission g/km 135 Carbon Monoxide (CO) g/km 0.127 Hydrocarbons (HC) g/km 0.02 Nitrogen Oxides (NO_x) g/km 0.002 Fuel Tank Litres 40

 

Then compare against the VES Chart. However, the PM rating is not included. Tat one can't find. But its ok, most importantly, take the CO2 emission and c whether its within range or not. I think even now, most cars ves ratings were rated critically based on this bah. Mayb other bros/sis hav a better/more acurate ways, can share. Cheers 

The PM2.5 rating is the missing information that we need to know to determine if VES will be adjusted up or down come 1 July 2018 from current VES where only the other four parameters were used.

[RogerNg_185295]

The PM2.5 rating is the missing information that we need to know to determine if VES will be adjusted up or down come 1 July 2018 from current VES where only the other four parameters were used.

Lta should publish a ves table listing all the models. It should state what is the penalty or rebates for each and every model sold by agents and PI. But they seems lazy to do it

[kennyyy]

Lta should publish a ves table listing all the models. It should state what is the penalty or rebates for each and every model sold by agents and PI. But they seems lazy to do it

 

Maybe Lta themselves are also clueless  . haha.

[RogerNg_185295]

Cannot be. This is their BIG cash cow

Maybe Lta themselves are also clueless  . haha.

 

[DACH]

Cannot be. This is their BIG cash cow

Maybe clueless as in how to milk the maximum at their minimum losses.

[Lotr]

I understand that if the AD cannot provide the PM2.5 data by 1 July, then that model will automatically incurred $20k surcharge.

[Selanking]

Infinite Q30 last 3 units sell at 106,800 to grab before 1st July VES.

[Hamburger]

If I never got the Mini, confirm get this q30.

[TayBoonSiang]

I thought you can check the VES of a car here?

 

https://www.onemotoring.com.sg/content/dam/onemotoring/pdf/Car_Cost_Update.pdf

[Fcw75]

The VES shown is for May.

 

Not the upcoming one in July.

[Sdf4786k]

Infinite Q30 last 3 units sell at 106,800 to grab before 1st July VES.

 

that's for the diesel I believe

[TayBoonSiang]

The VES shown is for May.

 

Not the upcoming one in July.

How come the VES status for cars change? I thought the standards are fixed?

[Sdf4786k]

I thought you can check the VES of a car here?

 

https://www.onemotoring.com.sg/content/dam/onemotoring/pdf/Car_Cost_Update.pdf

Not all cars are listed as well .. seat cupra R , vw Golf R n Kona 1.6t is missing. But u can almost check the correspondent list like the Hyundai Tucson which is 1.6t n is c1 as a guide. But as the kona is 4wd probably may hit the c2 category

[Alfc]

I read somewhere that some distributors resort to giving small inch rim (think is Audi) in order to comply within certain emission spec.

If true, this is so ridiculous that the rule can be overcome by this. Says a lot about the testing standards.

[DACH]

I read somewhere that some distributors resort to giving small inch rim (think is Audi) in order to comply within certain emission spec.

If true, this is so ridiculous that the rule can be overcome by this. Says a lot about the testing standards.

 

Well, what can they really do to keep the price down?

 

Either they increase the prices or you change the rims outside.

It's more of that silly tax problem.

[Alfc]

Well, what can they really do to keep the price down?

 

Either they increase the prices or you change the rims outside.

It's more of that silly tax problem.

 

True.

The point that the testing standard rests on a rim size which can be easily changed, I just cannot comprehend the thought process behind this. I am no engineer but would think it should be more technical-based such as the engine output, the clean tech involved, exhaust system etc

 

 

 

Edited June 23, 2018 by Alfc

[Vratenza]

Not listed is because non registered for the month. Some "cold-door" car models can see them only register sporadically throughout a few months period of this LTA list.

 

Not all cars are listed as well .. seat cupra R , vw Golf R n Kona 1.6t is missing. But u can almost check the correspondent list like the Hyundai Tucson which is 1.6t n is c1 as a guide. But as the kona is 4wd probably may hit the c2 category

 

[Vratenza]

If what you said is true that rim/wheel size affects the testing result, it just means that the tests are carried out with on wheel dyno having the vehicle go through a few standard series of simulated operating conditions such as start stop traffic, high way cruising and idling.

 

Your concern can also be applied to detuned engined cars in the Cat A category just to avoid Cat B. A simple ECU flash can easily regain much of the "lost" HP/Torque.

 

True.

The point that the testing standard rests on a rim size which can be easily changed, I just cannot comprehend the thought process behind this. I am no engineer but would think it should be more technical-based such as the engine output, the clean tech involved, exhaust system etc