Wt_know Hypersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 (edited) A noob question, previously CEVS rebate is taken from PARF, will the new VES surcharge add to PARF at end of year 10?muahahahahahaha ... i laugh until cannot stopsurcharge got give back? it’s a SLAP on the face la surcharge means penalty means PUNISH you for buying a not so “green” car ... muahahaha it’s an OUTRIGHT tax straight to ah goong pocket parf = what you paid for arf gst , import tax, ves, coe , simi sai are all not in arf Edited June 25, 2018 by Wt_know ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 Looking at the COE is now 34k, their car prices never go down at all. When COE was 45K, altis basic also around 100K. Now COE 34K, Altis also 100k .Who is taking who for a ride?Are you hinting that we should buy Honda?Civic1.6 was selling at $110k when COE was $45k. Today? Civic is only asking for $97k! Bbbmtl! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 (edited) muahahahahahaha ... i laugh until cannot stop surcharge got give back? itâs a SLAP on the face la surcharge means penalty means PUNISH you for buying a not so âgreenâ car ... muahahaha itâs an OUTRIGHT tax straight to ah goong pocket parf = what you paid for arf gst , import tax, ves, coe , simi sai are all not in arf Looks like i need to evaluate my "faith" in the SG govt. In the commercial world, it would look, feel and sound like a scam, i buy a green car, I pay less but take back less 10 years later, I buy a gas guzzler and somehow the rules change totally to become an outright tax. Ok, i forget we talking about Ah Gong. Edited June 25, 2018 by Voodooman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 (edited) rebate = used to offset arf. by right car should be cheaper. hence, lower parf because collect less = payback less surcharge = outright tax as punishment and nothing to do with arf but rebate kena makan by dealer as part of margin liao sibei shiok ah!!!! Edited June 25, 2018 by Wt_know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass 6th Gear June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 Maybe its yes. Could altis be the number 1 again?Nope.Their base is slowly getting eroded by the Korean slanted H and K, and probably even the Japanese straight H. I think the Elantra might be no.1 again for 2019 though, just as it was no.1 for 2009. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selanking 2nd Gear June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 Nope.Their base is slowly getting eroded by the Korean slanted H and K, and probably even the Japanese straight H. I think the Elantra might be no.1 again for 2019 though, just as it was no.1 for 2009. Mazda for 2017? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 Mazda for 2017? many pple dun like Mazda for some reason. but now that Dr M is back, maybe Proton will have a revival? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 (edited) rebate = used to offset arf. by right car should be cheaper. hence, lower parf because collect less = payback less surcharge = outright tax as punishment and nothing to do with arf but rebate kena makan by dealer as part of margin liao sibei shiok ah!!!! I am just kidding.... Our scholars are the best when it comes to such schemes. Using your money to change your behavior, never theirs. Edited June 25, 2018 by Voodooman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 For me I don't like mazda because of Eurokars. Don't get me wrong, Mazdas are good MIJ cars, owned a pre-Eurokars Mz6 as my first car. Somehow the market segmentation, premium pricing and service under Eurokars turns me off. many pple dun like Mazda for some reason. but now that Dr M is back, maybe Proton will have a revival? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdash Supersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 Tats y i nvr consider buying Toyotas simply becas BM quite stuck-up one. For many yrs aldy.get Toyota from PI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 Are you hinting that we should buy Honda? Civic1.6 was selling at $110k when COE was $45k. Today? Civic is only asking for $97k! Bbbmtl! You brought up a good example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 (edited) Mazda car is Mazda dealer pricing is .... Edited June 25, 2018 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 Mazda car is Mazda dealer pricing is .... Heard servicing is even Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defcon 2nd Gear June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 (edited) seems like many dealer is tanking the ves esp cat A to hook buyers. wonder will coe rebound with demand due to successful hooks. or will dealer pakat to only bid those ves impacted models. the rest dont bid. food for thought Edited June 25, 2018 by Defcon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pohtk 3rd Gear June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 seems like many dealer is tanking the ves esp cat A to hook buyers. wonder will coe rebound with demand due to successful hooks. or will dealer pakat to only bid those ves impacted models. the rest dont bid. food for thought Most likely "absorbed" by reducing their bidding budget for ur COE.... therefore COE will keep falling.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostly_harmless 1st Gear June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 I must confess: this updated VES scheme makes no sense at all! Kia Niro: VES C1; Hyundai Ioniq: VES band A2. Essentially the same car for both families. SEAT: 1.4 Ateca VES B, 1.0 Ibiza VES B, Leon 1.0 VES C1; VW Golf 1.0 VES B. Suggests to me that the PM bands are so close to the operating cutoff for these engines that really minor differences will push them into different bands. But that really makes no sense from any environmental sort of justification (which was the entire rationale for VES in the first place). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic June 25, 2018 Share June 25, 2018 I must confess: this updated VES scheme makes no sense at all! Kia Niro: VES C1; Hyundai Ioniq: VES band A2. Essentially the same car for both families. SEAT: 1.4 Ateca VES B, 1.0 Ibiza VES B, Leon 1.0 VES C1; VW Golf 1.0 VES B. Suggests to me that the PM bands are so close to the operating cutoff for these engines that really minor differences will push them into different bands. But that really makes no sense from any environmental sort of justification (which was the entire rationale for VES in the first place).It's all about money. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic June 26, 2018 Share June 26, 2018 (edited) just to drive a car we need to pay ARF COE EXCISE DUTY GST ERP VES after VES ... what else? need to create a new GOOSE liao Edited June 26, 2018 by Wt_know ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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