2018 / 2019 7th Generation Lexus ES

[Bioinformatics]

@oleoleole more or less i got same eval. But since comfort is my top priority, this car is best choice at that moment of time.

I tested c180,c200,a4,a5. 

Do share with my your other eval results as well and ended up choose what car. 

 

[Bioinformatics]

@oleoleole and also i look at their profit margin. Merc audi no $80k profit no talk. Lexus profit $40k. 😄

[Dannnn]

@BioinformaticsA5 profit margin was ard 20k or so ... havent even bargain. 160k when coe was 40k. but its not a "comfortable" ride, as the susp was stiff.

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Dannnn

[t0y0ta]

17 hours ago, oleoleole said:

Hihi, 

Test drove an used unit, as well as brand new at Borneo, for both ES250 and ES300H. 

For ES250, sorry but the pick-up performance is unacceptable for me. So not gonna comment anymore on this 2.5L NA variant. 

For ES300H, pick up and cruising is enjoyable with the additional hybrid battery.

But a few deal-breakers for me

1. The touch sensor pad and infotainment system - not user friendly and too sensitive. Hard to maneuver esp while driving. 

2. Terrible resolution of the reverse cam. 

3. The driver instrument cluster seems dated

Don't get me wrong, I stil think the ES ia a fantastic looking car, with superb sound insulation and premium cabin quality. I jus feel at this price range, there are many other options to consider. 

If you want really modern infotainment, then you should look at used 5 series.

[Fat_slayer]

@oleoleole 

The face lifted ES (4Q 2021) has a touch screen infotainment system which is moved nearer to the driver.  However, it is still unable to read Chinese characters.  The BMW ID7 is more tech advanced

[t0y0ta]

1 hour ago, Fat_slayer said:

@oleoleole 

The face lifted ES (4Q 2021) has a touch screen infotainment system which is moved nearer to the driver.  However, it is still unable to read Chinese characters.  The BMW ID7 is more tech advanced

For chinese characters to display for songs etc, use Apple CarPlay or Andriod Auto to play the music instead of native.

[Spurman]

On 5/15/2022 at 10:27 AM, Bioinformatics said:

@oleoleole more or less i got same eval. But since comfort is my top priority, this car is best choice at that moment of time.

I tested c180,c200,a4,a5. 

Do share with my your other eval results as well and ended up choose what car. 

 

No test E200, E250, BMW 5 series?

Your test drives models r smaller than the ES series leh. Kinda oranges to apples comparison.

Yeah, ES is good to be ferried around. Comfy seats but drive lack that "fun" factor though.

[Bioinformatics]

@Dannnn 

 

pls pm me your audi se. am looking at a6. 
 

 

[Knighthunter]

@Spurman GS model was the best in Lexus, very similar to E200/520 or with more powerful option with all models RWD.  ES is camry in expensive suit....

Edited May 29, 2022 by Knighthunter

[ER-3682]

3 hours ago, Knighthunter said:

@Spurman GS model was the best in Lexus, very similar to E200/520 or with more powerful option with all models RWD.  ES is camry in expensive suit....

That is why Borneo never bring in Top of Line Camry SL,they afraid the ES cannot sell.

[supan]

On 5/14/2022 at 7:32 PM, oleoleole said:

Hihi, 

Test drove an used unit, as well as brand new at Borneo, for both ES250 and ES300H. 

For ES250, sorry but the pick-up performance is unacceptable for me. So not gonna comment anymore on this 2.5L NA variant. 

For ES300H, pick up and cruising is enjoyable with the additional hybrid battery.

But a few deal-breakers for me

1. The touch sensor pad and infotainment system - not user friendly and too sensitive. Hard to maneuver esp while driving. 

2. Terrible resolution of the reverse cam. 

3. The driver instrument cluster seems dated

Don't get me wrong, I stil think the ES ia a fantastic looking car, with superb sound insulation and premium cabin quality. I jus feel at this price range, there are many other options to consider. 

@oleoleole 

Maybe Mazda 6 ?

Es - one should compare with 5 series, E class.

Compare the value , in terms price, feel, fuel, pulse ... not forgetting of 3-5 years ownership.

 

[supan]

On 5/15/2022 at 10:27 AM, Bioinformatics said:

@oleoleole more or less i got same eval. But since comfort is my top priority, this car is best choice at that moment of time.

I tested c180,c200,a4,a5. 

Do share with my your other eval results as well and ended up choose what car. 

 

If comfort then LS or RX types aka 7 series, S class ...

If value for money I will choose ES if money not an issue then 540

[Cook123]

I heard from es250/300 owners that the low rear bumper is an issue esp when reverse parking and the kerb stone is high, the bumper might scratch or worse, kenna stuck there. 
Prob need to be extra careful if so