EPL- 2019/2020

[Spring]

23 hours ago, Spring said:

Opening day EPL fixtures:

12/09/2020 15:00 Burnley v Manchester United
12/09/2020 15:00 Crystal Palace v Southampton
12/09/2020 15:00 Fulham v Arsenal
12/09/2020 15:00 Liverpool v Leeds United
12/09/2020 15:00 Manchester City v Aston Villa
12/09/2020 15:00 Tottenham Hotspur v Everton
12/09/2020 15:00 West Bromwich Albion v Leicester City
12/09/2020 15:00 West Ham United v Newcastle United
14/09/2020 20:00 Brighton v Chelsea
14/09/2020 20:00 Sheffield United v Wolverhampton

Man U and Man C fixtures will be played in midweek as they were given dispensation to delay their start due to their season ending later.

Chelsea n Wolves also allowed 2 day later start.

Sorry Man U and Man C opening fixtures postponed to a date yet to be confirmed and not midweek as I originally posted.

[Atrecord]

On 8/19/2020 at 1:18 PM, Spring said:

Ya forgot Nigel Martyn also good Yes Pope n Henderson need to prove themselves.

David James is a strange one. For a tall guy, he gets down to shots very quickly but inversely he is poor at crosses till the joke is James is afraid of Dracula

James was indeed strange.

Was a fairly decent keeper in the early days at Pool. And then kept losing corners and crosses for his height, that he was called butter fingers... 

Until he was sold as he was higher-profile as part of spice boys than an able replacement for the likes of clemence/grobbalaer... It's normally a mark of no confidence to be sold by Pool (rather than poached by rivals like Suarez, Sterling, etc.), but James incredibly managed to pick himself up and became England no. 1 for a few years later on in his career... but that could well also be because England got no talents those years...

[Spring]

Looks like Man United giving up on getting Jadon Sancho from Dortmund?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8654883/Manchester-United-Jadon-Sancho-chase-summer.html

The figures being quoted are really high. £108mil tfr fee n more than £300k per week wages is ridiculously high even for a club as rich as the Red Devils. 
 

Chelsea also facing somewhat similar issues with Leverkusen for the signing of Kai Havertz but for this case the only dispute is on the tfr fee. £90 quoted but Chelsea only willing to pay £72mil. His personal terms has apparently been agreed so this tfr still got chance but the Germans proving tough negotiators. 

[Jamesc]

 

27 minutes ago, Spring said:

Looks like Man United giving up on getting Jadon Sancho from Dortmund?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8654883/Manchester-United-Jadon-Sancho-chase-summer.html

The figures being quoted are really high. £108mil tfr fee n more than £300k per week wages is ridiculously high even for a club as rich as the Red Devils. 
 

Chelsea also facing somewhat similar issues with Leverkusen for the signing of Kai Havertz but for this case the only dispute is on the tfr fee. £90 quoted but Chelsea only willing to pay £72mil. His personal terms has apparently been agreed so this tfr still got chance but the Germans proving tough negotiators. 

Sancho 108 million is because Dortmund pay 8 million and have to have to give 15% of the 100 million profit to Man City.

City will get 15 million and used that to buy Ferran Torres for 20 million.

City thanks Utd for paying 75% of their new Spanish winger fee.

[Spurman]

1 hour ago, Spring said:

Looks like Man United giving up on getting Jadon Sancho from Dortmund?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8654883/Manchester-United-Jadon-Sancho-chase-summer.html

The figures being quoted are really high. £108mil tfr fee n more than £300k per week wages is ridiculously high even for a club as rich as the Red Devils. 
 

Chelsea also facing somewhat similar issues with Leverkusen for the signing of Kai Havertz but for this case the only dispute is on the tfr fee. £90 quoted but Chelsea only willing to pay £72mil. His personal terms has apparently been agreed so this tfr still got chance but the Germans proving tough negotiators. 

Man u is one club that gives inflated wages one. So sancho try his luck for 300k a week. Even 200k a week akso shiok for someone aged 19 or 20yrs old nia... maybe still a 1 or 2 season wonder. Hehe..

Not that germans r hard negotiators. Its the british clubs that r painted as richer and buying british is like 2 times higher...

 

[Newbie26]

3 hours ago, Spring said:

Looks like Man United giving up on getting Jadon Sancho from Dortmund?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8654883/Manchester-United-Jadon-Sancho-chase-summer.html

The figures being quoted are really high. £108mil tfr fee n more than £300k per week wages is ridiculously high even for a club as rich as the Red Devils. 
 

Chelsea also facing somewhat similar issues with Leverkusen for the signing of Kai Havertz but for this case the only dispute is on the tfr fee. £90 quoted but Chelsea only willing to pay £72mil. His personal terms has apparently been agreed so this tfr still got chance but the Germans proving tough negotiators. 

Man U must learn from city, target more 50-60m players then whole squad can be of great quality.

Man U frequently pays over the odds transfer fees (because selling clubs always raise their prices for them) and sells their players also on the cheap

[Spring]

4 hours ago, Spurman said:

Man u is one club that gives inflated wages one. So sancho try his luck for 300k a week. Even 200k a week akso shiok for someone aged 19 or 20yrs old nia... maybe still a 1 or 2 season wonder. Hehe..

Not that germans r hard negotiators. Its the british clubs that r painted as richer and buying british is like 2 times higher...

 

In this history of football transfers, only 5 players have been sold for more than £100mil. Neymar, Mbappe, Felix, Griezmann n Coutinho. 
 

To equate Sancho in that group esp in this Covid era is why I say Dortmund are hard negotiators. And they refuse to budge. Most selling clubs will put a high price but come down when negotiations start n don’t forget there is no other club in for Sancho as well and the same for Havertz which normally means the buying club has the upper hand. 
 

Anyway, we shall see what the eventual price is or if these 2 even move at all. 

[Spring]

3 hours ago, Newbie26 said:

Man U must learn from city, target more 50-60m players then whole squad can be of great quality.

Man U frequently pays over the odds transfer fees (because selling clubs always raise their prices for them) and sells their players also on the cheap

It’s true that English clubs hv to pay more for players compared to their European counterparts as they are perceived to be rich esp Man United n I suppose City n Chelsea as well. To be fair to these EPL clubs, they do foot out more but there’s a limit to extra premium. 
 

At least the EPL clubs are not like the 2 Spanish giants who try to instigate players to leave n so they can get them on the cheap. Real cheapo and underhand behaviour unbecoming of a top football club👎

[Beregond]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11833/12056591/lionel-messi-tells-barcelona-he-wants-to-leave-the-club

messi at EPL at last???😁

[Spring]

23 minutes ago, Beregond said:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11833/12056591/lionel-messi-tells-barcelona-he-wants-to-leave-the-club

messi at EPL at last???😁

This has been brewing since Barca's exit from UCL n initially I dismissed it as agent or Messi's way of putting pressure on Barca Board to improve their playing squad etc. However, as the days went by, it now seems that Messi is seriously considering leaving the Catalans. I always think that Messi is too much in his comfort zone at Barca n so he will not move no matter what. He is very unlike CR7 who loves a new challenge n thrives on breaking records n winning silverware with different teams/Leagues.

I still hv some doubts he will leave but I admit he may prove me wrong.

I suppose only City n PSG ie the oil rich clubs can afford him. It will interesting if he can come to EPL n i look forward to this happening n if he plays to the same level as in Liga, he will definitely go on to seal the title of Greatest Footballer of all time!  

[Beregond]

7 minutes ago, Spring said:

 

I suppose only City n PSG ie the oil rich clubs can afford him. It will interesting if he can come to EPL n i look forward to this happening n if he plays to the same level as in Liga, he will definitely go on to seal the title of Greatest Footballer of all time!  

every big club is planning to raid messi, if he leave, its for free without transfer fee. i saw a news even man u is preparing a plan

but there are some report its messi showdown of power with the barc board. but it seem messi lose this round. 

Edited August 26, 2020 by Beregond

[Atrecord]

On 8/23/2020 at 5:31 PM, Newbie26 said:

Man U frequently pays over the odds transfer fees (because selling clubs always raise their prices for them) and sells their players also on the cheap

For this, i represent all clubs that are not as rich as them, to thank Man U for doing their part to spread the riches around. 😆

[Atrecord]

15 minutes ago, Beregond said:

every big club is planning to raid messi, if he leave, its for free without transfer fee. i saw a news even man u is preparing a plan

but there are some report its messi showdown of power with the barc board. but it seem messi lose this round. 

central to the issue is how lawyers will interpret and argue the clause in Messi's contract that says he can leave for free if he puts in a request at the end of the season, before June.

We're of course into Aug now, so it seems that deadline has lapsed. But the clause was meant to be for a regular season, which will end in May typically, even for UCL final. And since covid has delayed the season, Messi's lawyers will argue that the 'before June' date should also be pushed back accordingly. If he gets his way, it will be free transfer wor...

City - who just escaped sanction for FFP, is now pressing calculators to see whether they can pay Messi (what he wants) and still not get into further trouble with FFP...

[Beregond]

17 minutes ago, Atrecord said:

If he gets his way, it will be free transfer wor...

City - who just escaped sanction for FFP, is now pressing calculators to see whether they can pay Messi (what he wants) and still not get into further trouble with FFP...

messi have the biggest contact on earth, no point keeping an unhappy player around who cannot/dun want to  perform and pay him millions. even real admit its a mistake stopping bale from leaving for free.

man c case with ffp is mispresenting. not they cannot afford. its just that does it go against man c recruitment policy of getting a 33 year old player and pay him top wages. look at psg transfer record, its even more audacious then man c by a long mile. but they can can justify it.

[Atrecord]

47 minutes ago, Beregond said:

messi have the biggest contact on earth, no point keeping an unhappy player around who cannot/dun want to  perform and pay him millions. even real admit its a mistake stopping bale from leaving for free.

man c case with ffp is mispresenting. not they cannot afford. its just that does it go against man c recruitment policy of getting a 33 year old player and pay him top wages. look at psg transfer record, its even more audacious then man c by a long mile. but they can can justify it.

Man City players all no need pay cut arrh? 

how come still got so many clubs can spend so much on transfer fees and wages huh? Pool already declared bo lui... dowan spend big this summer...

[Beregond]

Just now, Atrecord said:

Man City players all no need pay cut arrh? 

how come still got so many clubs can spend so much on transfer fees and wages huh? Pool already declared bo lui... dowan spend big this summer...

there is only so much income u can make. it depend alot on pools boss willing to pay from own pocket or not.

but frankly i see the transfer news, only chelsea is quite active. even real and barc seem much quiet then usual.

[Spring]

Just like ourselves, football clubs also need to watch their bottom line esp in this Covid climate. So not surprising, clubs hv tightened their belts which is prudent.

That said, the famous investor Warren Buffett says, be careful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful so clubs like Chelsea took this opportunity to bid for players like Werner, Havertz, Silva etc as in normal situation, the Blues might not be able to purchase them as the hawks like the 2 big Spanish giants, PSG, Bayern etc would hv already snapped them up esp Havertz. In other words, Chelsea became greedy when others were fearful.

They could do this partly cos the 2 window transfer ban worked in their favour. Accumulated the sales proceeds from players sold n now having the $ ammo to splurge without much competition from other clubs for finite resources ie good players. The table below even if u deduct 90mil for Havertz will mean Chelsea break even but they still getting Ben Chilwell and possibly a goalie but a few of their players will be sold as well so despite the huge $ outlay, the Blues have more or less balanced the books. 

[Beregond]

7 minutes ago, Spring said:

Just like ourselves, football clubs also need to watch their bottom line esp in this Covid climate. So not surprising, clubs hv tightened their belts which is prudent.

 

 

ya ,end of the days club still need to balance their account themself

new and rich owner normally will inject 1 time to boost , but u wont expect them to throw in hundred of million every year

see psg, after 2 crazy transfer or neymar and mbappe, they stop, can say  that 2 transfer throw the market into chaos.

but now market stabilize more or less.