China's BYD starts EV sales in Japan as it chases Tesla

[steveluv]

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China's BYD starts EV sales in Japan as it chases Tesla
Elon Musk's company has global lead but affordable option has entered the race

BYD, which has made a big name for itself in China, intends to catch up with Tesla in global electric vehicle sales. (Source photos courtesy of BYD and Getty Images)
SAYUMI TAKE, Nikkei staff writerJanuary 31, 2023 18:15 JST

YOKOHAMA, Japan -- Chinese automaker BYD began selling electric vehicles in Japan on Tuesday as it pursues its global ambitions to overtake more established nameplates.

BYD's debut in the world's fourth largest auto market comes with it having secured its place as China's top EV seller and nipping at the heels of American EV giant Tesla in global EV sales.

BYD also sells electric vehicles in Australia and Thailand, and has production plants in South America.

"We're very excited to be bringing our cars to Japanese customers," said Atsuki Tofukuji, president of BYD Auto Japan, a marketing subsidiary. Tofukuji talked to reporters at BYD's first Japanese sales location, due to open on Thursday in Yokohama, the big port city south of Tokyo.

While the Chinese automaker is gaining fame as an EV battery seller, its car sales remain largely dependent on domestic demand. This puts it considerably behind Elon Musk's top-running Tesla, which has penetrated many more global markets.

BYD has been eager to close the gap and recently began exporting to India, home to a fledgling EV market, and to Thailand, where it plans its first ASEAN production hub.

The Atto 3, which went on sale on Jan. 31 in Japan, has already attracted a "fair amount" of test-drive reservations from prospective buyers. (Photo by Sayumi Take)

BYD is entering Japan with a key strength against Tesla, affordability, backed by its roots as a battery maker. The company's flagship Atto 3 midsize SUV, which today went on sale in Japan, goes for 4.4 million yen ($33,800), cheaper than Tesla and Nissan EVs. Government EV subsidies, if they continue, will lower the price.

Deliveries are to begin around March.

The Yokohama store is also "a good way to present new brands to Japanese customers" as they can actually familiarize themselves with EVs and consult professional dealers about purchases on the spot, Tofukuji said.

It is the first of over 20 showrooms that BYD plans to establish across Japan this year. The company aspires to have over 100 dealerships in the country by the end of 2025.

This contrasts with Tesla, which largely relies on internet sales.

BYD's showroom in Yokohama only has the Atto 3 on display but later this year will exhibit two additional models. Visitors can also take the SUV out for test drives, and the store is already receiving a "fair amount" of reservations.

Each BYD dealer in Japan will be equipped with 50-kilowatt quick chargers that can juice up the Atto 3 in about 60 minutes.

Japan's EV market has been expanding, though notably slower than other countries. Domestic EV sales in 2022 came to about 59,000 units, a record and almost triple the previous year's total, according to industry groups. They accounted for 1.7% of Japan's passenger car market, surpassing 1% for the first time.

But most of the growth is due to vehicles that fall into the kei car category. These microcars are considered to be easy to drive around crowded cities and require relatively low maintenance. And since they need little power, their makers have been able to more easily transition to electric drivetrains.

The rest of the industry faces a relatively large obstacle: Many chargers in the country operate on such low power that it takes hours to sufficiently juice up a regular EV.

BYD's strategy is to "introduce products that fit each country's charging environment," Tofukuji said, "unlike Tesla, which distributes chargers exclusive to its models."

Despite Japan's slowly developing EV market, BYD faces a raft of competitors. Foreign luxury brands like Mercedes-Benz, Tesla and Audi are eager to take big shares of the young market. And although Japan's storied auto industry is filled with EV laggards, those dawdlers are moving to catch up. Toyota recently named a new president and CEO, tasking the relatively young executive with adapting to today's industry trends.

"The Japanese EV market overall is getting bigger, and this is a good time to be entering [the competition]," Tofukuji said. "We hope to provide a rich EV life along with the development of Japan's EV environment."

[Thaiyotakamli]

I can say byd look more attractive than tesla when i sat in interior

[Arogab]

14 minutes ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

I can say byd look more attractive than tesla when i sat in interior

Indeed, if you look inside and outside, I think Tesla I will not take a second look at all

[Fitvip]

Saw this the other day.

[Thaiyotakamli]

31 minutes ago, Arogab said:

Indeed, if you look inside and outside, I think Tesla I will not take a second look at all

Tesla too ugly and pricing also not worth for what it offers esp build quality just meh

[inlinesix]

46 minutes ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

I can say byd look more attractive than tesla when i sat in interior

31 minutes ago, Arogab said:

Indeed, if you look inside and outside, I think Tesla I will not take a second look at all

Only Tesla give you $45k rebate😜

[Arogab]

13 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

Only Tesla give you $45k rebate😜

No matter what, I still won't buy them

[inlinesix]

5 minutes ago, Arogab said:

No matter what, I still won't buy them

Be prepare to pay more lo

You also skip BYD🤭

[inlinesix]

30 minutes ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Tesla too ugly and pricing also not worth for what it offers esp build quality just meh

BYD Atto 3

OMV = $34k

Depreciation = $18k.

Model Y

OMV = $92k

Depreciation = $22k

Edited February 1, 2023 by inlinesix

[Arogab]

19 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

Be prepare to pay more lo

You also skip BYD🤭

I will only buy what I like, not buy cheap lah

[Thaiyotakamli]

39 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

BYD Atto 3

OMV = $34k

Depreciation = $18k.

Model Y

OMV = $92k

Depreciation = $22k

Definitely u don’t feel like sitting in a 92k omv car

 

at 92k can get like s class or 7er 

[Melody288]

Don't think there is any other car with OMV of $82k can sell below $300k i.e. Model Y Performance.

Edited February 1, 2023 by Melody288
Typo

[mersaylee]

2 hours ago, Fitvip said:

Saw this the other day.

😁

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Definitely u don’t feel like sitting in a 92k omv car

at 92k can get like s class or 7er 

Model Y is sold for $250k with $22k depreciation.

BMW 735 (OMV: $102k) is sold for $550k (assume 27k disc) with $47k depreciation.

Merc S450 (OMV: $110k) is sold for $600k (assume 21k disc) with $51k depreciation.

[Carbon82]

16 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

Model Y is sold for $250k with $22k depreciation.

BMW 735 (OMV: $102k) is sold for $550k (assume 27k disc) with $47k depreciation.

Merc S450 (OMV: $110k) is sold for $600k (assume 21k disc) with $51k depreciation.

You are missing the point totally my friend. @Thaiyotakamli is comparing the built and quality of Tesla vs others with similar OMV, e.g. S Class and 7er.

It is apple-to-durian comparison if you are looking at computation of ARF, PARF, annual depreciation and such because the tax structure is totally different for EV vs ICE.

And for many, car purchase isn't just about dollars and cents or vs performance figures. Let's agree to disagree.

Back to BYD, they are one of the EV leader worldwide and has partnership with 2 of the largest / famous auto manufacturers: Toyota and Daimler. That says alot about them. 

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Carbon82 said:

You are missing the point totally my friend. @Thaiyotakamli is comparing the built and quality of Tesla vs others with similar OMV, e.g. S Class and 7er.

It is apple-to-durian comparison if you are looking at computation of ARF, PARF, annual depreciation and such because the tax structure is totally different for EV vs ICE.

And for many, car purchase isn't just about dollars and cents or vs performance figures. Let's agree to disagree.

Back to BYD, they are one of the EV leader worldwide and has partnership with 2 of the largest / famous auto manufacturers: Toyota and Daimler. That says alot about them. 

I don't disagree with you on the build and quality.  

On the other hand, Tesla OMV might be more "realistic" than traditional car makers.

In terms of tax structure, the only difference is $45k rebate.

Toyota BZ4X used BYD battery.  Delivery of this car was stopped previously in certain countries.

 

 

 

[Beregond]

Is this 1 coming 😁

 

[107fan]

Need more variety here!