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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:12 AM

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I think the Sultan of Johor finally did something. Built a bigger lighthouse, longer jetty plus a helicopter pad on the shallow rocks.

 

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The maritime base on the Middle Rocks was built at a cost of RM61.5 million (S$19.5 million), and has a 316m-long jetty, a helipad and a lighthouse. Singapore's Pedra Branca can be seen in the background

 

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Malaysia has signalled its keen sovereign interest by completing a maritime base just a kilometre away from Pedra Branca, and hopes to tighten its sea borders in the area where frequent trespasses by Vietnamese fishing boats have hurt the livelihoods of Malaysian fishermen, officials and analysts say.

The Sultan of Johor officially opened the maritime base on the Middle Rocks on Tuesday, after some five years of construction at a cost of RM61.5 million (S$19.5 million). The rocky outcrop was awarded to Malaysia in 2008 by the International Court of Justice (ICJ), which handed Pedra Branca to Singapore at the same time.

Analysts note that the Abu Bakar Maritime Base should be welcomed as a positive development in maritime security.

"There is undoubtedly a signal that Malaysia is serious about its sovereignty claims around that stretch of water. But both sides should turn this into a positive development to try to address common security concerns," S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies senior fellow Oh Ei Sun told The Sunday Times.

 

The base has a 316m-long jetty, a helipad and a lighthouse, and is manned by 17 personnel. Abu Bakar is the first sultan in the Johor ruling family that began in the 19th century.

Johor's Sultan Ibrahim Sultan Iskandar on his official Facebook page said the facility was "aimed at safeguarding Malaysia's sovereign territory and waters, and for conducting marine scientific research".


Malaysia's coast guard, the base's main operator, said that since 2015, it has detained 11 Vietnamese fishing boats and their 144 crew, and estimate there were hundreds of other vessels encroaching into Malaysian waters.

"We hope the new Abu Bakar Maritime Base at Middle Rocks will help us monitor and act against illegal activities in Johor waters," Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency southern region director Adon Shalan was reported as saying by The Star.

The top brass of the armed forces and the National Security Council had briefed the ruler last Monday on efforts to protect Johor's international borders. "The Sultan decided he wanted to visit the next day. That's why it was so sudden. But the base itself did not pop up overnight," a source close to the palace told The Sunday Times.

Pedra Branca was in the news in recent months after Malaysia on June 30 filed an application before the ICJ to declare that the waters surrounding the island remain within its territorial waters - a move Singapore said was puzzling, without merit, and one it will oppose.

The challenge comes months after Malaysia filed a separate application to revise the same 2008 ruling in February, citing newly discovered facts. Singapore filed its written observations in response to the revision application with the ICJ in May.

 


Edited by Watwheels, 08 August 2017 - 10:14 AM.

The chosen one will bring balance to the Force...I mean Singapore. Even star wars do not reserve "the chosen one" to a sith lord or a jedi or a wookie.

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:24 AM

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I hope His Majesty not wasted the money.Wait a tsunami come only wipes out everything.

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:26 AM

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Fret not. They build towards us, we can also continue to reclaim our tekong island which is already extremely near their mainland. Tit for tat.

 

Actually who started first huh?


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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:36 AM

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:57 AM

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Always trying to swallow up the little red dot.

It is with a stroke of the pen...the one who started it all.

Now he has reservations about the Singapore-Johore transit rail.

Personally, I too also have reservations. The way illegals can come and go freely there makes me feel that it will be a matter of time we will have our hands full again with another problem.

That's just my thoughts. "Happy Birthday little red dot! May you grow wiser with each passing year and stronger from all the bullying from North, South, East and West. May it's people remain united and not tossed about with kpkb. Let each citizen be in good health and take challenges with bravery." And let me have more faith in the younger generation who have not gone thru hardships brought on by war and real fight for survival. Let each child not forget this country came about with sacrifices made by the generation before them so they do not talk big and boast...when they neither contributed nor intend to.


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Posted 08 August 2017 - 12:14 PM

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they have so many inhabited bigger islands yet fighting over such a tiny bit of rock. it shows how big is their heart 


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Posted 08 August 2017 - 12:30 PM

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well, they can kpkb about nasi lemak already, what do u think?


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Posted 08 August 2017 - 03:16 PM

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they have so many inhabited bigger islands yet fighting over such a tiny bit of rock. it shows how big is their heart 

 

Its not abt how big or how small or how many islands. Its abt the strategic location of the island. [scholar]

 

Pedra Branca is situated at the entrance/exit of Singapore straits, a vital shipping lane in the region. Therefore it is important that we have control over it.

 

You wouldnt wana see someone else having it and control the movement of the vessels into our place right? They can then any time cease all shipping and starve our economy, similar to a blockade of vital blood in our human body.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 03:35 PM

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Always trying to swallow up the little red dot.

It is with a stroke of the pen...the one who started it all.

Now he has reservations about the Singapore-Johore transit rail.

Personally, I too also have reservations. The way illegals can come and go freely there makes me feel that it will be a matter of time we will have our hands full again with another problem.

That's just my thoughts. "Happy Birthday little red dot! May you grow wiser with each passing year and stronger from all the bullying from North, South, East and West. May it's people remain united and not tossed about with kpkb. Let each citizen be in good health and take challenges with bravery." And let me have more faith in the younger generation who have not gone thru hardships brought on by war and real fight for survival. Let each child not forget this country came about with sacrifices made by the generation before them so they do not talk big and boast...when they neither contributed nor intend to.


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NEVER TRUST THEM
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Posted 09 August 2017 - 03:50 PM

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It's all about politics and the malaysian govt trying to beef up domestic support for their coming elections.

However the johor sultan is not exactly pro ah jib either, so i just wonder. He is trying to assert royal influence over his state rather than submit 100% to federal control. Hence his disagreement over the rail plans, that he was not properly consulted.
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Posted 09 August 2017 - 04:04 PM

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It's all about politics and the malaysian govt trying to beef up domestic support for their coming elections.

However the johor sultan is not exactly pro ah jib either, so i just wonder. He is trying to assert royal influence over his state rather than submit 100% to federal control. Hence his disagreement over the rail plans, that he was not properly consulted.

It can be in 2 ways:

Ah jib really didn't consult JB sultan about the rail plan. And just go ahead to sign contract with SG. Sultan not happy abt it.

Ah Jib and Sultan already agreed to the contract, but has the plan to play Hollywood actors. Sultan pretend to be angry and play difficult to agree to the contract. SG may be asked to pay more, as part of compensation or change the plan to give MY more advantage.

There are alot of tricks up the sleeve and very hard to trust anyone.


Anyway, it's prudent for SG to check with Ah jib about sultan's agreement to the contract. If SG took for granted that ah jib got do his homework, then it's a big diplomatic failure on SG garment.

SG should already know that royal families always has a say in its own land, and can cause difficulties to the overall contract.

Edited by Jusnel, 09 August 2017 - 04:07 PM.

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 09:57 AM

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Read this in FB, anyone aware of this incident in 1991?

 

http://goodyfeed.com/5-interesting-facts-didnt-know-1991-pukul-habis-operation-cuz-youre-not-born-yet/

 

 



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 10:03 AM

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The sultans should just lead their disgustingly privileged life and attend charity events. Basically what the EP of Singapore should do haha  [laugh]



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 10:11 AM

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Heard our fighter jets and choppers involved in that year's NDP were fully armed. 



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 10:12 AM

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http://www.straitsti...ght-of-rts-link

 

st_20170809_sesultan09_3336499-page-001.

I think what the sultan proposes does make sense. Why should the link be curved and not straight? Curved one will make the rail longer in distance thus costing more money to build. An also why the rail be build so high 30m (ship already cannot pass becoz of the causeway link) as if the causeway is going to be dismantled in future.

 

He also questioned why there are 2 seperate contractors from either side to build the rail and not one contractor.

 


The chosen one will bring balance to the Force...I mean Singapore. Even star wars do not reserve "the chosen one" to a sith lord or a jedi or a wookie.

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 10:13 AM

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It's all about politics and the malaysian govt trying to beef up domestic support for their coming elections.

However the johor sultan is not exactly pro ah jib either, so i just wonder. He is trying to assert royal influence over his state rather than submit 100% to federal control. Hence his disagreement over the rail plans, that he was not properly consulted.

 

If the project involves buying land parcels that belong to him, I'm sure he'll be OK.



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Posted 10 August 2017 - 10:30 AM

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It's easy to say build straight but perhaps the sea bed not suitable? Or the curve is to ensure the train always slow down? BTW our MRT also not straight lines between station to station.

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Posted 10 August 2017 - 11:04 AM

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The worrying part, for me, is "commuters leaving Malaysia clears immigration checks for BOTH countries."

Our side no need check? Everyone getting off at the proposed Bukit Chagar station free to roam immediately?


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 11:18 AM

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http://www.straitsti...ght-of-rts-link

 

 

I think what the sultan proposes does make sense. Why should the link be curved and not straight? Curved one will make the rail longer in distance thus costing more money to build. An also why the rail be build so high 30m (ship already cannot pass becoz of the causeway link) as if the causeway is going to be dismantled in future.

 

He also questioned why there are 2 seperate contractors from either side to build the rail and not one contractor.

 

Gosh. He is making too much sense.

 

Might get fixed soon  [sweatdrop]


The worrying part, for me, is "commuters leaving Malaysia clears immigration checks for BOTH countries."

Our side no need check? Everyone getting off at the proposed Bukit Chagar station free to roam immediately?


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Wasn't it the other way around when we had the tanjong pagar railway?


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Posted 10 August 2017 - 11:32 AM

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http://www.straitsti...ght-of-rts-link

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I think what the sultan proposes does make sense. Why should the link be curved and not straight? Curved one will make the rail longer in distance thus costing more money to build. An also why the rail be build so high 30m (ship already cannot pass becoz of the causeway link) as if the causeway is going to be dismantled in future.

He also questioned why there are 2 seperate contractors from either side to build the rail and not one contractor.

Why curve?
Well you probably cannot do straight line station to station due to land acquisition issues from station to Sea shore.
Once you reach the sea, it needs a gentle curve for tracks to turn. There is a minimum turn radius for trains, safety issue.

The 30m height hard to say.

Maybe partly so cars can still pass under the tracks, especially on Singapore land side. And since going to elevate, may as well do higher.
Also in future, any work on the existing causeway may require the use of barges, and they often carry high cranes too.
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