Nothingtodo 1st Gear February 10, 2007 Author Share February 10, 2007 hmmm... well... not exactly saying brakes affect transmission. Me used to using engine brakes + pump action when face with emergency braking situation. Did that a few times and very effective too. So was prefering w/o ABS for new purchase. But from your reply, seems ABS very useful in carparks.... am now thinking to go for one with ABS instead... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beei 1st Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 ABS is good to have Nothing wrong with having additional safety feature Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caravan 5th Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 ABS doesn't decrease braking distance. It just allows you to steer the car out of the hazard that's all. In fact in the dry, ABS increases the braking distance slightly, and in certain conditions like heavy snow, a car without ABS will just grind into the snow and stop while a car with ABS will continue to roll on and on into the car in front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidh 1st Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 I hv heard of some car owners that says they hv nvr activated their ABS in their lifetime of driving b4. Some says its only for drivers who feels insecure in wet weathers. Some activated theirs once b4 and says after that hv to go for chks.... is this true? So I am anticipating whether to just go 4 a car without ABS. Any Bro/Sis here have activated his/her ABS b4? Do you think this is necessary features for me who is self-proclaim safe driver who don't speed and don't tailgate? The car w/o ABS is a manual car... I hardly drive, and I've activated once already... The sound goes like, "tok tok tok" when hard braking... once was when I nearly bumped into the front vehicle (my fault). According to my dad, he also activated once... he was driving around a bend on a rainy day, and he tried to slow down with the foot brake. So it seems that it is really something useful, and for the same reason you buy insurance, you should get one with ABS. (You getting a rio? lol) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terenc3 1st Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 Exactly. It just another safety feature.. But do you think you'll really pump your brakes as fast as ABS during a real real emergency? =) Hmm.. If I'm not wrong, nowadays cars mostly comes with ABS le right? Unless cars like Perodua or Picanto?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picanto 3rd Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 for added safety measure, get one that comes with electronic brake force distribution, also known as EBD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denosha Neutral Newbie February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 It's when you don't have it and need it that the value of having ABS installed really shows. I just had mine activate on me 2 days ago. Was on the extreme right lane of a 3 lane road approaching a junction. No other cars in front except for one on the 2nd lane. All the cars behind are quite far away. Both of us were going quite fast and I was changing to the 2nd lane behind the front car when the light suddenly turned yellow. That junction had a camera and the front car decided to jam the brakes while I was about half way into the lane already so I had to jam brake while changing back to my original lane to avoid hitting the front car. If I didn't have ABS, the moment i jammed my brakes I wouldn't be able to steer. It was dry at the time btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Neutral Newbie February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 Ever thought of "activating "the ABS method manually by ur leg on a non ABS car? it helps to steer to one's desired direction.. I hv heard of some car owners that says they hv nvr activated their ABS in their lifetime of driving b4. Some says its only for drivers who feels insecure in wet weathers. Some activated theirs once b4 and says after that hv to go for chks.... is this true? So I am anticipating whether to just go 4 a car without ABS. Any Bro/Sis here have activated his/her ABS b4? Do you think this is necessary features for me who is self-proclaim safe driver who don't speed and don't tailgate? The car w/o ABS is a manual car... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 After reading some u guys post, I think some of u have the wrong perception of how ABS works. Extracted from HowStuffWorks: By keeping the wheels from skidding while you slow down, anti-lock brakes benefit you in two ways: You'll stop faster, and you'll be able to steer while you stop. http://auto.howstuffworks.com/anti-lock-brake.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 It's the pulsation that is sent to the brake to prevent locking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 hmmm... well... not exactly saying brakes affect transmission. Me used to using engine brakes + pump action when face with emergency braking situation. Did that a few times and very effective too. So was prefering w/o ABS for new purchase. But from your reply, seems ABS very useful in carparks.... am now thinking to go for one with ABS instead... You can do the traditional pumping action if you are fast and nimble for now. But in a split second sudden emergency, I wonder how many drivers can do that and to a certain extent, be as accurate as the ABS to gain the optimum braking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 ABS doesn't decrease braking distance. It just allows you to steer the car out of the hazard that's all. In fact in the dry, ABS increases the braking distance slightly, and in certain conditions like heavy snow, a car without ABS will just grind into the snow and stop while a car with ABS will continue to roll on and on into the car in front. Do you take aquaplaning into consideration when you make the highlighted statement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sony 1st Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 What is the price difference between one with ABS and without? Frankly, ABS got nothing to do with the tranmission been manual or auto. BTW, ABS is useful even in low speed. So don't think all these safety feature is useful only for speeder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route88 2nd Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 Even tho a car with abs,cannot asume its safe,the tyres will play a big role in stopping distance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklee 6th Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 IMHO, ABS is not necessary if one doesn't know how to make use of it. While I have no statistics, in most event of emergency braking, there is a tendency for drivers to slam the brakes and hope for the best. It doesn't matter whether ABS kicks in or not..either you hit something or you don't. With ABS however, the driver still retain the option to steer the vehicle out of danger while slamming the brakes. But if the driver doesn't know how to do that, it makes no difference. Why some drivers never have their ABS activated? It depends on the road surface, weather, tyre type/condition and speed. While one can't control the road surface and weather, one can control the speed and tyre type/condition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenbackside 1st Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 I hv heard of some car owners that says they hv nvr activated their ABS in their lifetime of driving b4. Some says its only for drivers who feels insecure in wet weathers. Some activated theirs once b4 and says after that hv to go for chks.... is this true? So I am anticipating whether to just go 4 a car without ABS. Any Bro/Sis here have activated his/her ABS b4? Do you think this is necessary features for me who is self-proclaim safe driver who don't speed and don't tailgate? The car w/o ABS is a manual car... I activate my ABS all the time. Especially on the track. But my ABS/traction control module has konked out for more than 2 months already, and I'm still in one piece, phew. What I found is that it's actually more fun to drive without ABS and traction control, BUT, you need to be very very carefull when your car breaches the limites of adhesion. It is much harder to control. With ABS, the car is very easy to control when you have to e-brake. Without it, the car will slide around when you slam on the brakes and you need to modulate the brake pedal in order not to lose control of the car... I'd say try to buy a car with it if possible. It might just save your life someday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowFlash Clutched February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 well, my car doesnt has abs, dont have any problems without abs. most importantly u gotta know when ur brake is goin to lock up so ure tires wont skid. btw i do track occasionally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auron 2nd Gear February 10, 2007 Share February 10, 2007 After reading some u guys post, I think some of u have the wrong perception of how ABS works. Extracted from HowStuffWorks: By keeping the wheels from skidding while you slow down, anti-lock brakes benefit you in two ways: You'll stop faster, and you'll be able to steer while you stop. http://auto.howstuffworks.com/anti-lock-brake.htm i agree with you. after reading some of the forum replies, sometimes you really doubt whether ppl really know what is ABS and how it works or even how to really use it... for those who don't, do yourself and others a favour, go to the above link and read it. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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