Advise needed when installing engine oil cooler ??

[Windwind]

Advise needed when installing engine oil cooler ??

 

What must i check for the type of engine oil cooler that fits my car (vios 1.5)?

 

Many workshop told it is just plug and play.. Or must i change other parts like engine oil pump?

 

Thanks

 

[Lightspeed]

No need for other changes... but why do you need an oil cooler?

[Rb26dett]

no u need not change ur fuel pump but do take note after installing the oil cooler you will need more engine oil than before(my case is 700ml more).best is to get something more than 10 rows of fins and with thermostat built in.

one good way to have it installed is inside your bumpers(infront of your wheel arch lining).

get ur installer to cut a whole on ur bumper (either left or right side doesnt matter.) and fit a billion intake so it will guild the air directly to ur oil cooler which is hidden inside.and if you choose to go the above method i've suggested , do take note.remember to have the wheel arch lining cut a hole as well.if not during high speed , the air that guilds into the oil cooler thru the billion intake will go thru the oil cooler fins and blow against the lining and it will rub against ur tires.good brands for oil cooler i've heard of are mocal , HKS , greddy .currently i am using hks.

 

*incase you are unsure of what is the wheel arch lining ,look above your tires and you will see that black plastic arch above it.

[Kelpie]

No need for other changes... but why do you need an oil cooler?

 

Probably a snail is found inside . Anyway, I've read an articule in a car magazine about the need to install an aftermarket oil cooler for NA below certain bhp. The conclusion that I gathered was, it is a no harm thingy and especially good for those who wanted to keep their beloved car for years and ages. The main objective is still to reduce wear and tear.

 

Regards,

[Route88]

There's no need for NA cars to install those unit.

Invest in a good coolant can oredi.

[Kb27]

Unless you are tracking, you are advised not to fit engine oil cooler.

Engine oil needs to run hot (for at least 30min) to burn off contaminants, water moisture, so as to prevent acid and sludge from forming.

If it's constantly not hot enough, you'll get more wear and tear on your engine.

[Rb26dett]

thats a very good point there.

precisely why i suggested to TS to get one with thermostat if he insist on getting a oil cooler.

[Kelpie]

You've touched on the core of the topic, which is Heat! I need to go and flip the magazine, which I've packed them in boxes. I vaguely remembered that the heat inside and outside the engine is world apart and the engine is always under tremendously pressure and operate at very high temperature so by dissipating heat faster via an external oil cooler, it reduces wear and tear. Again, this is not a neccessity but deemed as a good to have. The same go with an ATF cooler. For sludge to form in your engine, there are other variables and factors as well.

 

Regards,

[Watwheels]

IMO it's like taking off your pants just to fart.

 

Engineers from the car manufacturer had already calculated and put into consideration of all the things ppl had mentioned. Unless u wanna challenge the Engineer's Phd lah.

 

If got snail then might as well change to a bigger size radiator, what for install such a small oil cooler?

 

I doubt that TS knows WTF he's doing.

[Kelpie]

IMO it's like taking off your pants just to fart.

 

Engineers from the car manufacturer had already calculated and put into consideration of all the things ppl had mentioned. Unless u wanna challenge the Engineer's Phd lah.

 

If got snail then might as well change to a bigger size radiator, what for install such a small oil cooler?

 

I doubt that TS knows WTF he's doing.

 

No lah, I'm also layman in this area . Just to relate to what I've read.

 

Regards,

[Rb26dett]

aiya be nice to TS la.maybe he really go track 1 leh? and who knows he already got some koyo radiator installed??

[Yc86]

Depends on your car and setup.

Sometimes the 'ahem' exhaust manifold can block the sandwich adaptor needed to fix the oil cooler to, thus a oil filter relocation kit is needed.

If not, then you simply just need an oil filter sandwich, 2 L type connectors to steel braided hoses and another 2 L connectors to the oil cooler.

 

Mine didn't run a thermostat. Poor man's setup using a filter relocation kit with a evo oil cooler. Anw, its just a small 1.3L car. ;)

Temps are good. never exceeded 96degC at track (but thats taken after the cooler i suppose).

I fixed a small fan onto it as well, as only half of the cooler is exposed to the air stream due to space constraints.

 

Its best if you can buy a oil cooler set from another fellow Vios, preferby with the same setup. Then you can save on the effort of trying to find the lengths of hoses, connectors and such. Don't think big brands make for the Vios also, so have to custom make everything.

[Jiayong]

"IMO it's like taking off your pants just to fart.

 

Engineers from the car manufacturer had already calculated and put into consideration of all the things ppl had mentioned. Unless u wanna challenge the Engineer's Phd lah.

 

If got snail then might as well change to a bigger size radiator, what for install such a small oil cooler?

 

I doubt that TS knows WTF he's doing. "

 

I track my car. NA. Car engineers didnt include an oil cooler in my car. When tracking, the engine oil temp is nearing 140 degrees without the oil cooler. With the oil cooler, the temp is reduced to roughly about 115 degrees. Normal street driving, my oil temp hovers around 90 degrees. All of which, is pretty acceptable. I think that by adding the oil cooler, im improving on what the engineers did. Dun think they expect everyone of their customers to track the car so didnt make it a standard item in the car.

 

I havnt heard of a bigger sized radiator being an option to reduce oil temp, over the option of an oil cooler.

 

Anyway, TS is asking for opinions. Would be good if we give them polite and constructive answers.

[Windwind]

Thank you all for the advise and grateful for the lengthy sharing..

 

Watwheels i can only say you are a nut shell .... yes i have a TC and when track my oil temp on my defi showed 130....that why i need a oil cooler when another vios mate is selling me his HKS. And i have already change my radiator..

 

No one ask you to comment .....

 

 

[Jiayong]

nice. any chance u are going to PG track day today?

 

if u are, look out for me. my number plate will be "jiayong"

 

[Genie47]

Just remember you have an additional system to maintain. There is more feet of plumbing and connections. Check for leaks constantly.

[Yuan]

I am toying of this idea before previously.

 

I don't track my car and intend to keep my car for years and ages to come.

 

Dunno should go ahead with this.

 

Anyway, I do regular servicings of my ride.

 

This oil cooler looks a bit complicated to me.

[Genie47]

Don't do it. The stock system is more than adequate. If you install the cooler, you have an additional system to worry about. As posted above, there is more plumbing and more connections. You spring a leak somewhere, there goes the oil.

 

Jiayong and TS track, that is why the cooler is important but for the daily grind, unnecessary even though the benefits are good.