Exercising without a gym

[Piyopico]

Palm oil is a great cooking oil. It's stable and cheap. Great for deep frying, if you really need to. Make sure you buy it in the purest form you can find.

 

The oil I literally drink is coconut oil. Tastes really good. A couple of tablespoons a day.

 

Olive oil is more for taste more than anything. It's ok when it's not heated, like when used as a salad dressing. It's a PUFA. Plenty of Omega 6, so it doesn't really add to health in the context of our modern diet where it's already overloaded with O6.

 

Fish oil is best used as a sort of "balancer" to keep your O3 a d O6 ratio in check.

 

 

I read somewhere the consumption balance of Omega 3 and Omega 6 should be around 1:3 but a bit difficult to monitor. Most of my fats come from pork. Dunnoe if this is ok or not.

[Ahleon]

better still, lets get together n eat 猪油渣 , mi treat........................

 

 

i this idea!!!...lets have a PIG out session...

[Chickenbackside]

Palm oil how? Can drink or not?

I guess logically, you can drink it, just like coconut oil. But whether you'll like the taste is another matter.

 

[Chickenbackside]

I read somewhere the consumption balance of Omega 3 and Omega 6 should be around 1:3 but a bit difficult to monitor. Most of my fats come from pork. Dunnoe if this is ok or not.

If most of your fats are from pork, please supplement with fish oil to balance out your O3:O6 ratio.

[Chickenbackside]

U really got balls LOL i tried drinking coconut oil a few times, and I gag whenever i try more than 3 tablespoons. Yuck!!! It's like swallowing down the head of Uncle Muthu.

 

I absolutely do not mind eating lard, butter, lamb fat or other animal fat....but drinking oil is really another thing LOL

 

U win lol

I actually like the taste of coconut oil, especially when I use it to drench my dessiccated coconut!

 

No matter how hungry you are, eating a few Tb of dessiccated coconut together with a few Tb of coconut oil will make you so full that you'll wanna puke. But it's calorically very dense too.

 

Guess I do win, haha...

[Xtrocious]

I guess logically, you can drink it, just like coconut oil. But whether you'll like the taste is another matter.

 

Or just do what the cartoons do...

 

Get a funnel and just pour the oil straight down into the gullet

[Topgun]

U owe us a butter-fried chicken wing each.

 

Actually a rack of roast lamb is more like it

[Chickenbackside]

Interesting observations from early explorer Vilhjalmur Stefansson:

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilhjalmur_...Redirected=true

 

 

Stefansson documented the fact that most Inuit lived on a diet of about 90% meat and fish, often going 6

[Piyopico]

Interesting observations from early explorer Vilhjalmur Stefansson:

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilhjalmur_...Redirected=true

 

 

Stefansson documented the fact that most Inuit lived on a diet of about 90% meat and fish, often going 6

[Chickenbackside]

I've posted this before, but good stuff is worth repeating:

 

 

Enter Gary Taubes:

 

 

[Skunk]

Gout is basically too much uric acid in our system.

 

that is only half-truth. Gout is the formation of crystals of uric acid in the joints. U can have a high level of uric acid without gout. Latest research suggests that carbohydrate consumption triggers the formation of those crystals.

 

[Skunk]

oops, bro CBS just posted the evidence lol i didnt notice hehe

[Karoon]

hi guys.... i've been participating in this thread on and off but its turning into a 100 page monster.

 

can't keep track.

 

would the OP be so kind as to summarise the key points in one page...(or perhaps suggested dietary guidelines for those keen to give the low-carb diet a try)on the first page maybe?

 

and many2 thanks for the interesting new-found facts for me.

[Chickenbackside]

hi guys.... i've been participating in this thread on and off but its turning into a 100 page monster.

 

can't keep track.

 

would the OP be so kind as to summarise the key points in one page...(or perhaps suggested dietary guidelines for those keen to give the low-carb diet a try)on the first page maybe?

 

and many2 thanks for the interesting new-found facts for me.

I think the OP has long disappeared, haha. We have invaded and taken over, like Keanu Reeves in The Matrix.

 

 

Anyway, it's hard to beat this one from Dr Kurt Harris, which has actually been posted many times already in this thread:

 

http://www.paleonu.com/get-started/

 

 

 

PaNu - A modified paleolithic diet that can improve your health by duplicating the evolutionary metabolic milieu.

 

How do you do it?

 

Here is a 12- step list of what to do. Go as far down the list as you can in whatever time frame you can manage. The further along the list you stop, the healthier you will be. There is no counting, measuring, or weighing. You are not required to purchase anything specific from me or anyone else. There are no special supplements, drugs or testing required.*

 

1. Eliminate sugar (including fruit juices and sports drinks) and all foods that contain flour.

 

 

2. Start eating proper fats - Use healthy animal fats or coconut fat to substitute fat calories for carbohydrate calories that formerly came from sugar and flour. Drink whole cream or coconut milk.

 

 

3. Eliminate gluten grains. Limit grains like corn and rice, which are nutritionally poor.

 

 

4. Eliminate grain and seed derived oils (cooking oils) Cook with Ghee, butter, animal fats, or coconut oil.

 

5. Favor ruminants like beef, lamb and bison for your meat. Eat eggs and some fish.

 

6. Get daily midday sun or take 2-8000 iu vit D daily.

 

7. Try intermittent fasting or infrequent meals (2 meals a day is best). Don't graze like a herbivore.

 

8. Adjust your 6s and 3s. Pastured (grass fed) dairy and grass fed beef or bison has a more optimal 6:3 ratio, more vitamins and CLA. A teaspoon or two of Carlson's fish oil (1-2 g DHA/EPA) daily is good compensatory supplementation if you eat grain-fed beef or no fish.

 

9. Proper exercise - emphasizing resistance and interval training over long aerobic sessions.

 

10. Most modern fruit is just a candy bar from a tree. Go easy on bags of sugar like apples. Stick with berries and avoid watermelon which is pure fructose. Eat in moderation.

 

11. Eliminate legumes

 

12. Eliminate all remaining dairy including cheese- (now you are "Orthodox paleolithic")

 

 

 

 

No counting, measuring or weighing is required, nor is it encouraged.

 

The plan is about what not to eat more than what you should eat.

 

For what I eat ( not what you should eat, just what I eat) see this.

 

Did you notice that there is no step that says what your macronutrient ratios should be?

 

Good, because there isn't (and never has been) one.

 

See How to lose weight if you are obese or have metabolic syndrome or diabetes. Otherwise, the ratios are not specified. PaNu practitioners typically range from 5-35% carbohydrate, from 10-30% protein and from 50 to 80% fat (mostly from animals) but wider ranges are entirely possible if you are not dieting and you are meticulous about the quality of your animal food sources.

 

PaNu tends to be lower carbohydrate than the standard american diet (SAD) because you can only eat so much, and eating animals gives you lots of fat. But it is not really a "low carb" diet as you do not count anything, you just avoid certain foods that happen to be largely carbohydrate. Most PaNu eaters only know macronutrient metrics in retrospect, as they don't target numbers just like wild paleolithic humans didn't target numbers.

 

If you are not fat and you like to eat potatoes, EAT THEM. I don't, but that doesn't mean you can't.

 

If you can do step 1, that is about 50% of the benefit and alone a huge improvement on the standard american diet (SAD) By about step 6 you are at about 75% , by step 9 about 80% and at 10 you are at 99% for most people. These are just estimates, of course.

 

Here is the kernel of the theory:

 

Insulin is a phylogenetically old hormone. It is a biological messenger that in excess, is metabolically saying the following to your tissue and organs: "Go ahead and store energy, mature, reproduce and die." Hyperinsulinism in humans is linked to diabetes, alzheimer dementia, metabolic syndrome, obesity, coronary disease and epithelial cancers.

 

Hyperinsulinism is related to metabolic derangements that are likely caused by the neolithic agents of disease:

 

The three main neolithic agents are Fructose, Wheat and excess Linoleic Acid (n-6 PUFA)

 

We did not evolve under conditions of food excess, especially regarding the neolithic agents. During most of our evolutionary past, food was intermittently available and not superabundant like today. Preferred foods were available year round and dense in calories and nutrients. Animal products, including organs and bone marrow of mammals, fish, and invertebrates (insects) were the preferred foods, supplemented by edible plants (not grains) until the dawn of agriculture. Fruit was seasonal and not yet bred for maximum sweetness. Food was eaten less frequently, on average had lower n-6, fructose, and carbohydrate content than the typical american diet , and was likely characterized by often involuntary periods of intermittent fasting. Grains were absent or trivial sources of nutrition.

 

Humans are omnivores on the carnivorous end of the spectrum. Not canids, but closer to canids than chimpanzees.

 

Like most animals that are not birds or rodents, we are not adapted to eating grass seeds, to which we have been significantly exposed for only about 10,000 years. They contain molecules that are specifically designed to discourage consumption, as well as other problematic chemicals.

 

The diet is not about eating exactly what "cavemen" ate, or killing your own food. It is solely about more closely duplicating what I believe are the key elements of the internal hormonal metabolic milieu that we evolved under from especially less than 1 million years ago to about 10,000 years ago. This is likely to be achieved not by eating specific things, but more by not eating specific things.

 

Is there a way to live in a world of abundant food while avoiding the risk of metabolic syndrome and associated diseases of civilization and the immune dysfunction associated with eating grass seeds that cannot even be eaten without mechanical processing ?

 

Yes, you can work your way down this list.

 

Check the website occasionally for more details - I will elaborate as time allows - or you can post questions in the comment section of the blog.

 

 

 

* This is not medical advice. I am confident this is the healthiest way to eat based on currently available science. However, if you have any serious medical condition that requires treatment and in particular if you take medication for diabetes, thyroid disorders or autoimmune diseases, make dietary changes only in consultation with your physician. Your medications may need to be adjusted, as you may well need less of them!

[Skunk]

I like the Paleo Diet, but what's wrong with cheese? LOL.

 

Except for high sodium content (which is not a prob unless u got faulty kidneys to start with...just drink lots of water...sodium is water soluble and it will come out of your system), i think it's an excellent source of protein and fat (if it's made from whole milk).

[Skunk]

Humans are omnivores on the carnivorous end of the spectrum. Not canids, but closer to canids than chimpanzees.

 

Yes, i like this phrase, we're omnivores, yes, but we're optimally carnivorous.

 

I love vege, but ever since eliminating them from my diet, i felt better, not worse. Now, the only plant foods i take on a daily basis are 2 limes, squeezed into cold water for a refreshing drink, whisky, pepper and rosemary to flavour my meat, and basil and thyme to flavour my fish. Oh, and tobacco to inhale lol

 

I dropped another 300g yayy.

Edited April 20, 2010 by Skunk

[Karoon]

I think the OP has long disappeared, haha. We have invaded and taken over, like Keanu Reeves in The Matrix.

 

ah yes chickenbackside.... when i said OP i actually meant you

 

i'm just starting on this... erm... eating habit as i 've started to seriously put on the pounds.

 

your exercise regimen is not what one would term 'light' exercise. that is awesome (i'm mid 30s and pride myself on ippt gold every year except last year but still nowhere near the levels of exercise that you do eg max 60 sit-ups + 60 push-ups for me before bed, and once a week run round the track).

 

also, i realise that if i were to do this long term, it would be the end of my long beautiful relationship with Cadbury

 

 

[Chickenbackside]

ah yes chickenbackside.... when i said OP i actually meant you

 

i'm just starting on this... erm... eating habit as i 've started to seriously put on the pounds.

 

your exercise regimen is not what one would term 'light' exercise. that is awesome (i'm mid 30s and pride myself on ippt gold every year except last year but still nowhere near the levels of exercise that you do eg max 60 sit-ups + 60 push-ups for me before bed, and once a week run round the track).

 

also, i realise that if i were to do this long term, it would be the end of my long beautiful relationship with Cadbury

Yes, I have permanently broken up with sugar. It's hard to imagine at first, but life is actually better now. It's the sexy woman that makes you feel oh-so-good, but is ultimately oh-so-bad for you.

 

Exercise wise, it started off light. Just slightly more than a year ago, 5 pushups with really poor form were all I could manage. I couldn't jog for more than 30 secs without feeling like I wanna puke. But the human body is an amazing thing. It just adapts, especially with the right foods to help it along.