Runforyourlife 5th Gear July 30, 2018 Share July 30, 2018 Subaru Impreza 2.0 sedan at 94.8k is d cheapest Japanese sedan in d market currentlyThis is a mazda 3 competitor. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theory_87 3rd Gear July 30, 2018 Share July 30, 2018 (edited) Test drove the 2.0l M6 last Sat. Coming from Citroen C5, here is my take. Design - Well, the facelift surely freshen the design a lot. Looking at the models prior to this facelift at my HDB carpark, those look so dated. - The Interior design, built and quality is very good. It's even better than Lexus ES to me personally. - Given the car length, it's no surprise the legroom is ample for the rear passengers. As for the front seat, it a pity that the electric seat sounds quite loud when it's being adjusted. - A pity that the instrumental cluster is still analogue, lack of ventilation seats and auto dim rear view mirror. (Understandable given the price point) Drive - Handling of the car is good. However I find the suspension is a little firm hence it feels very busy and the car body is constantly jumping about. - Sound proofing in the engine firewall is quite bad imo. The engine sound very loud to me. To make the matter worst, the engine doesn't sound very refine. Given the 2.0l is just adequate/slightly under power, it means very often you will hear the loud engine sound since you will need to rev it to move the car. This car make perfect sense for buyers looking at Altis and Civic give the price is within the same range. For Camry and Accord buyers, it depends if design and quality is the priority or comfort and perceive reliability is the priority. Just my 5cents worth of opinions Edited July 30, 2018 by theory_87 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kykh Supercharged July 30, 2018 Share July 30, 2018 Test drove the 2.0l M6 last Sat. Coming from Citroen C5, here is my take. Design - Well, the facelift surely freshen the design a lot. Looking at the models prior to this facelift at my HDB carpark, those look so dated. - The Interior design, built and quality is very good. It's even better than Lexus ES to me personally. - Given the car length, it's no surprise the legroom is ample for the rear passengers. As for the front seat, it a pity that the electric seat sounds quite loud when it's being adjusted. - A pity that the instrumental cluster is still analogue, lack of ventilation seats and auto dim rear view mirror. (Understandable given the price point) Drive - Handling of the car is good. However I find the suspension is a little firm hence it feels very busy and the car body is constantly jumping about. - Sound proofing in the engine firewall is quite bad imo. The engine sound very loud to me. To make the matter worst, the engine doesn't sound very refine. Given the 2.0l is just adequate/slightly under power, it means very often you will hear the loud engine sound since you will need to rev it to move the car. This car make perfect sense for buyers looking at Altis and Civic give the price is within the same range. For Camry and Accord buyers, it depends if design and quality is the priority or comfort and perceive reliability is the priority. Just my 5cents worth of opinions Mazda 6 indeed still has a lot of work cut out for its engineers to improve on its sound proofing. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralee 2nd Gear July 30, 2018 Share July 30, 2018 Getting my Mazda 6 2018 (executive) tmr. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic July 30, 2018 Share July 30, 2018 Test drove the 2.0l M6 last Sat. Coming from Citroen C5, here is my take. Design - Well, the facelift surely freshen the design a lot. Looking at the models prior to this facelift at my HDB carpark, those look so dated. - The Interior design, built and quality is very good. It's even better than Lexus ES to me personally. - Given the car length, it's no surprise the legroom is ample for the rear passengers. As for the front seat, it a pity that the electric seat sounds quite loud when it's being adjusted. - A pity that the instrumental cluster is still analogue, lack of ventilation seats and auto dim rear view mirror. (Understandable given the price point) Drive - Handling of the car is good. However I find the suspension is a little firm hence it feels very busy and the car body is constantly jumping about. - Sound proofing in the engine firewall is quite bad imo. The engine sound very loud to me. To make the matter worst, the engine doesn't sound very refine. Given the 2.0l is just adequate/slightly under power, it means very often you will hear the loud engine sound since you will need to rev it to move the car. This car make perfect sense for buyers looking at Altis and Civic give the price is within the same range. For Camry and Accord buyers, it depends if design and quality is the priority or comfort and perceive reliability is the priority. Just my 5cents worth of opinions Probably the 2.5l version is better? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Privacy 5th Gear July 30, 2018 Share July 30, 2018 Mazda 6 indeed still has a lot of work cut out for its engineers to improve on its sound proofing.not. just sound proofing.. it's together with the engine... it's loud and rough.... to me at least... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runforyourlife 5th Gear July 30, 2018 Share July 30, 2018 Getting my Mazda 6 2018 (executive) tmr. ðð excited...How much you got it for bro?not. just sound proofing.. it's together with the engine... it's loud and rough.... to me at least...Wa then mazda 3 is worse... Test drove the 2.0l M6 last Sat. Coming from Citroen C5, here is my take. Design - Well, the facelift surely freshen the design a lot. Looking at the models prior to this facelift at my HDB carpark, those look so dated. - The Interior design, built and quality is very good. It's even better than Lexus ES to me personally. - Given the car length, it's no surprise the legroom is ample for the rear passengers. As for the front seat, it a pity that the electric seat sounds quite loud when it's being adjusted. - A pity that the instrumental cluster is still analogue, lack of ventilation seats and auto dim rear view mirror. (Understandable given the price point) Drive - Handling of the car is good. However I find the suspension is a little firm hence it feels very busy and the car body is constantly jumping about. - Sound proofing in the engine firewall is quite bad imo. The engine sound very loud to me. To make the matter worst, the engine doesn't sound very refine. Given the 2.0l is just adequate/slightly under power, it means very often you will hear the loud engine sound since you will need to rev it to move the car. This car make perfect sense for buyers looking at Altis and Civic give the price is within the same range. For Camry and Accord buyers, it depends if design and quality is the priority or comfort and perceive reliability is the priority. Just my 5cents worth of opinions You're comparing a mazda 6 with altis and civic which is at least 10k difference from its highest trim? And with civic which had a turbo engine?! Category of mazda 6 competing with accord and camry. Fullstop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patwong 3rd Gear July 31, 2018 Share July 31, 2018 This article summed up what Mazda is trying to achieve. And I agreed with the verdict. https://gearpatrol.com/2018/07/27/2018-mazda-6-signature-review/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralee 2nd Gear July 31, 2018 Share July 31, 2018 Probably the 2.5l version is better?2.5l definitely much better, but the price range at $135k region opens up to lots of other choices. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic July 31, 2018 Share July 31, 2018 (edited) more than 400Nm at 2000 rpm ... SIBEI SWEET! Edited July 31, 2018 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDraper 1st Gear July 31, 2018 Share July 31, 2018 (edited) *deleted* Edited July 31, 2018 by DonDraper 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theory_87 3rd Gear July 31, 2018 Share July 31, 2018 (edited) You're comparing a mazda 6 with altis and civic which is at least 10k difference from its highest trim? And with civic which had a turbo engine?! Category of mazda 6 competing with accord and camry. Fullstop. 1st off, there is no denying M6 is a class bigger than Altis and Civic. 1.6 Altis and Civic should compare with M3 strictly in size. However when you factor in the price, then you can definitely compare them as their price is around the same ball park. Look at the price as at 25 Jul 2018 below 25 Jul pricelist Toyota Altis 1.6 Standard - $102,988 Honda Civic 1.6 - $95,999 Honda Civic 1.5T - $115,999 Mazda 6 2.0 Standard - $103,800 Mazda 6 2.0 Executive - $111,300 Mazda 6 2.5 Premium - $133,800 Mazda 6 2.5 Luxury - $138,800 Toyota Camry 2.0 - $139,988 Toyota Camry 2.5 - $145,988 New Toyota Camry 2.5 (PI) - $128,800 The price of Altis listed price is only about $1k less than the base M6. The price between M6 and Civic 1.5T is $4.7K. For some consumer, M6 is definitely in the consideration list along with Altis and Civic. Civic 1.5T 170HP, 220Nm and M6 2.0 is 163HP, 213Nm so power wise is also within the same range. If M6 is only allowed to compete in it's size class, 2.0 M6 is in no man land. For 2.5l, the PI Camry is cheaper with a new design. And at $130k range, Subaru Legacy, VW Passat, Skoda Superb will also come in the pictures. more than 400Nm at 2000 rpm ... SIBEI SWEET! Too bad the 2.5 Turbo is not available in Singapore. Edited July 31, 2018 by theory_87 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic July 31, 2018 Share July 31, 2018 (edited) never say never KM also need to bring in Vezel when they see many buy from PI Edited July 31, 2018 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runforyourlife 5th Gear July 31, 2018 Share July 31, 2018 1st off, there is no denying M6 is a class bigger than Altis and Civic. 1.6 Altis and Civic should compare with M3 strictly in size. However when you factor in the price, then you can definitely compare them as their price is around the same ball park. Look at the price as at 25 Jul 2018 below The price of Altis listed price is only about $1k less than the base M6. The price between M6 and Civic 1.5T is $4.7K. For some consumer, M6 is definitely in the consideration list along with Altis and Civic. Civic 1.5T 170HP, 220Nm and M6 2.0 is 163HP, 213Nm so power wise is also within the same range. If M6 is only allowed to compete in it's size class, 2.0 M6 is in no man land. For 2.5l, the PI Camry is cheaper with a new design. And at $130k range, Subaru Legacy, VW Passat, Skoda Superb will also come in the pictures. Too bad the 2.5 Turbo is not available in Singapore. If price is the factor, compare to mini one also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Privacy 5th Gear July 31, 2018 Share July 31, 2018 vincar camry 2.5 hybrid selling at 119... look like we've a winner based on the price list haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runforyourlife 5th Gear July 31, 2018 Share July 31, 2018 vincar camry 2.5 hybrid selling at 119... look like we've a winner based on the price list hahaYup. Can easily list another 10 car models based on price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patwong 3rd Gear July 31, 2018 Share July 31, 2018 1st off, there is no denying M6 is a class bigger than Altis and Civic. 1.6 Altis and Civic should compare with M3 strictly in size. However when you factor in the price, then you can definitely compare them as their price is around the same ball park. Look at the price as at 25 Jul 2018 below The price of Altis listed price is only about $1k less than the base M6. The price between M6 and Civic 1.5T is $4.7K. For some consumer, M6 is definitely in the consideration list along with Altis and Civic. Civic 1.5T 170HP, 220Nm and M6 2.0 is 163HP, 213Nm so power wise is also within the same range. If M6 is only allowed to compete in it's size class, 2.0 M6 is in no man land. For 2.5l, the PI Camry is cheaper with a new design. And at $130k range, Subaru Legacy, VW Passat, Skoda Superb will also come in the pictures. Too bad the 2.5 Turbo is not available in Singapore. You are right. I think TEK has price the 2l Mz6 wrongly. They should just sell at -$15k cheaper than 2l Camry. Take advantage of the bend B (VES) + lower OMV to make more profit. And most important don't confuse consumer to make comparison with Altis and Civic. Haha. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SZ_ford 5th Gear July 31, 2018 Share July 31, 2018 2.5l definitely much better, but the price range at $135k region opens up to lots of other choices. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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