MAZDA 6

[ER-3682]

Hi, im getting a 2nd hand m6 pre fl model around last week of nov. Anyone can add me into the whatsapp group?

PM me,if you can stand 500++ messages a Day.  

[Gabdat]

Hi Zerra,

 

A4 !

 

Cheers.

 

Richard

to me,i will still pick the M6 2.5l. smoother gear change,lasting gear box and spacious interior.obvious body roll on the A4 and cheap interior plastics.

[SZ_ford]

to me,i will still pick the M6 2.5l. smoother gear change,lasting gear box and spacious interior.obvious body roll on the A4 and cheap interior plastics.

 

i dont own an a4 but is the gear box not smooth?

 

and interior is cheap? looks good in pictures though

[Gabdat]

i dont own an a4 but is the gear box not smooth?

 

and interior is cheap? looks good in pictures though

lower gear change is a bit jerky.my cousin has it and for the amount he paid,think hes better off with a C class with some minimal top up.but he admits mileage is very good.but again,i might be bias towards Asian cars.i always believe that conti cars just do not last as long as jap/korean cars.maybe that's just me..i dunno.

[SZ_ford]

lower gear change is a bit jerky.my cousin has it and for the amount he paid,think hes better off with a C class with some minimal top up.but he admits mileage is very good.but again,i might be bias towards Asian cars.i always believe that conti cars just do not last as long as jap/korean cars.maybe that's just me..i dunno.

 

no problem, we all have different priorities when it comes to cars

 

i sat inside the a4, was really impressed by its design and quality, but didn't test drive

[richard_crl032]

i dont own an a4 but is the gear box not smooth?

 

and interior is cheap? looks good in pictures though

 

Hi SZ,

 

Think bro Gatdat are more for sedated Jap/Korean rides and he or his cousin are not used to coveted dsg gear of A4.

 

A4 body is a bit light but power up nshwy and good fuel efficiency ... interior to me is fine and simple ... at least not some colorful and wannabe Jap/Korean car but experience, expectation and preference are subjective.

 

On the downside, contis have to pay a lot for gadgetry while especially Korean includes all the bell and whistles, including BSM, AEB, lane departure etc. 

 

Cheers,

 

Richard

Edited November 21, 2018 by richard_crl032

[DK3410]

Hi SZ,

 

Think bro Gatdat are more for sedated Jap/Korean rides and he or his cousin are not used to coveted dsg gear of A4.

 

A4 body is a bit light but power up nshwy and good fuel efficiency ... interior to me is fine and simple ... at least not some colorful and wannabe Jap/Korean car but experience, expectation and preference are subjective.

 

On the downside, contis have to pay a lot for gadgetry while especially Korean includes all the bell and whistles, including BSM, AEB, lane departure etc. 

 

Cheers,

 

Richard

 

Must bear in mind DSG generally has more wear and tear issues than standard "slush box" automatic transmission with torque converter.

 

Ford and VW have done an outstanding job to torpedo the reputation of the dual-clutch gearbox, in particular the "dry" versions. I'm not too sure if Audi is using the same dual-clutch pack as the VW (they're all same parent company after all), but if they are, you can expect your clutch to run sweetly for about 5 years till it sh**s itself.

 

In reality, DSG is a more efficient set-up, with between 6-10% better fuel economy, faster shifting, good for performance driving. But needs more TLC than a standard auto, and tends to get confused in city driving situations. This will be alleviated somewhat by the use of the paddle shifters to directly input the gear desired.

 

Never never creep forward or in reverse on a DSG, for extended duration, especially under load. You will wear out the clutch quickly. It's much easier to think of a DSG as an automated manual transmission. Don't do the things you wouldn't do on a manual transmission and you'll be fine.

[Best1]

Only turbo cars can produce the pull back effect for passengers...na engines cant..if only mazda 6 got that power..it will really be a zoom zoom.

[DK3410]

Only turbo cars can produce the pull back effect for passengers...na engines cant..if only mazda 6 got that power..it will really be a zoom zoom.

 

The "pull back" effect is an effect of instantaneous acceleration from standstill, and has more to do with the absolute power output of the engine, and less to do with whether or not the engine is naturally-aspirated or turbocharged.

 

For reference, the Audi R8 has a naturally-aspirated 5.2L V10 (or V8). Try launching it and you will also feel the pull-back effect.

 

The key difference has got to do with power delivery and how the turbocharger is tuned. Naturally-aspirated engines tend to deliver the acceleration in a more linear fashion, while older-generation turbochargers have to wait for a bit for the revs to climb before the turbocharger gets spooled up and you get that sudden "kick" when the turbo kicks in and the revs climb higher.

 

New turbochargers are designed to spool up at lower revs, such as the one in the Mazda 6 turbo, the Mazda CX-9 and some contis. I.e they deliver power at lower revs, but that also means that power delivery is more linear without much "lag" you typically see in conventional turbochargers.

[Best1]

Am looking forward to their skyactiv x engine with 190hp and 230 torque..hopefully the power will be good.

[legd_of_spd]

Or can drive a manual transmission car and drop the clutch at RPM 4K. 1000cc NA engine also give a bit of pull back. Haha.

Edited November 21, 2018 by legd_of_spd

[SZ_ford]

Am looking forward to their skyactiv x engine with 190hp and 230 torque..hopefully the power will be good.

 

 

the current 2.5 mz6 has 192hp and 258nm of torque, they lower the torque?

[Best1]

Its the skyactiv x 2 lire engine that will produce 190hp and 230 torque..

[DK3410]

the current 2.5 mz6 has 192hp and 258nm of torque, they lower the torque?

 

The Skyactiv X he was referring to is the yet-to-be released 2019 Mazda 3.

 

The Skyactiv X engine is a unique ultra-high compression engine that switches between compression ignition (just like a diesel) and Spark controlled ignition (like a conventional petrol engine).

 

The key selling point of the new engine is fuel efficiency, and is supercharged by default.

 

Do note that such engines aren't cutting-edge new. GM had experimented with this previously, but the design has many engineering hurdles that seem to have only recently been overcome in the Skyactiv X.

[Best1]

Yes. Hopefully this engine will help mazda to be a real zoom zoom..else it will always have the impression of a slow car.

[DK3410]

Yes. Hopefully this engine will help mazda to be a real zoom zoom..else it will always have the impression of a slow car.

 

For us here in Singapore, have to depend on whether TEK is bringing it in wor...

 

They have yet to bring in the Mazda 6 2.5L Turbo despite it being available in just about every other country.

 

Even if they do bring it in, they will strip out many features from it, claiming that the feature "will seldom be used in local context".

 

In Singapore where VES, road tax, COE, high petrol prices drive up the cost of car ownership exponentially, most Singaporeans will opt to purchase a car with a smaller, more fuel-efficient engine, to cut expenditure on road tax and petrol.

 

A good example is the Mazda 3. You can hardly find the 1.5L engine in other territories, and the Mazda 3 in those territories come in 2.0L and 2.5L flavours. The 2.5L Mazda 3 is a genuine gem to drive, so I've read.

[Best1]

True, what a pity.. but i guess the 2 litre sky activ x will be popular if they put it in the 6. Wonder how fast it will go from 0 to 100km. Most impt, will spore have this edition.

[SZ_ford]

True, what a pity.. but i guess the 2 litre sky activ x will be popular if they put it in the 6. Wonder how fast it will go from 0 to 100km. Most impt, will spore have this edition.

If its 190hp and 230 torque, then won't be any faster than the current 2.5l since torque is lower