Wt_know Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 (edited) i tried to take a step back, calm down and review the saga i give benefit of double that from the beginning fatt choy and horseface intention is true and noble however, when easy money comes in ... lots of them ... lust for money, lust for power, lust for fame, lust for luxury kicks in - human is human absolute power ... corrupt absolutely i would say this is entirely due to poor governance ... COC must impose stricter governance on charity and donation where the organisation can collect lots and lots of money easily just like NKF and Mingyi the TOP guy can easily sway to the DARKSIDE when millions and millions are at their disposable ... what's the point of board of director where they are not independent and easily manipulated by the TOP guy besides, the TOP guy can lie and repackage smlj multi-purpose-account and crossover project ... how could the BOD approve that horseface is the "singer" for the crossover project? it's a straight red flag of conflict of interest already ... Edited November 24, 2015 by Wt_know ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothiewabbit Supersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Full throttle....ENGAGED!!! 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Just waiting to see whether Con Hee will appeal ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 (edited) Just waiting to see whether Con Hee will appeal ... reminds me of Edited November 24, 2015 by Mustank 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Supersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 when he plead for lenient sentence, the lawyer say KH got 2 elderly parents, children, siblings to take care, he the the only breadwinner, if the $400k for sun not to feed the family, then for what? $400k to maintain a horse lor .. keeping a horse is very expensive business, gotta pay for stabling, horse feed, and lots of horse shit to clear. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckduck Turbocharged November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayy25 6th Gear November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 i tried to take a step back, calm down and review the saga i give benefit of double that from the beginning fatt choy and horseface intention is true and noble however, when easy money comes in ... lots of them ... lust for money, lust for power, lust for fame, lust for luxury kicks in - human is human absolute power ... corrupt absolutely i would say this is entirely due to poor governance ... COC must impose stricter governance on charity and donation where the organisation can collect lots and lots of money easily just like NKF and Mingyi the TOP guy can easily sway to the DARKSIDE when millions and millions are at their disposable ... what's the point of board of director where they are not independent and easily manipulated by the TOP guy besides, the TOP guy can lie and repackage smlj multi-purpose-account and crossover project ... how could the BOD approve that horseface is the "singer" for the crossover project? it's a straight red flag of conflict of interest already ... simple they idolize the TOP guy as a god and what he said is the truth.... trust me... you would be very amazed how much those followers treated Kangxi... better than the real Qing dynasty Emperor KangXi. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 That's why this thing is a cult. A threat to society. Society must be protected from this cult. Section 55. In this case, should it be applied on cultists, there will still be no political detainees in Sg. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyng 4th Gear November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 That's why this thing is a cult. A threat to society. Society must be protected from this cult. Section 55. In this case, should it be applied on cultists, there will still be no political detainees in Sg. Are they really a Christian cult? I assume CHC people believes in one and only God and divinity of Jesus and salvation through Him and in Holy Spirit (forming Holy Trinity) and that all is revealed in the Bible. Unless - anyone here says otherwise. While I think their emphasis on prosperity gospel is wrong - but major doctrine still there right? If there is a spectrum of cult to non-cult - I think more like a false-preacher problem, not a systematic cult issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkseah Turbocharged November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Are they really a Christian cult? I assume CHC people believes in one and only God and divinity of Jesus and salvation through Him and in Holy Spirit (forming Holy Trinity) and that all is revealed in the Bible. Unless - anyone here says otherwise. While I think their emphasis on prosperity gospel is wrong - but major doctrine still there right? If there is a spectrum of cult to non-cult - I think more like a false-preacher problem, not a systematic cult issue. Their major doctrine is prosperity gospel.. They have been fed a distorted view of God and what the Bible says.. u think that is a true Christian church? How can a church be true if it is lead by false preacher/prophets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkseah Turbocharged November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 Cult Warning Signs.. Sounds familiar with what we hear about CHC? http://www.familiesagainstcultteachings.org/Cult-Education/Cult-Warning-Signs/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 (edited) for easy reading ... hit at least 5/10 signs ... Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.6. Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.7. There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.8. Followers feel they can never be "good enough".9. The group/leader is always right.10. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible. Edited November 24, 2015 by Wt_know 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacteria83 Turbocharged November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 (edited) I dont understand why a faith and belief in a religion constant emphasize on sacrifice. I dont see KH gang scarifying anything. He gain fame, wealth, career and sponsored transport and lodging. Jesus sacrifice for his people, some sacrifice the people. Edited November 24, 2015 by Bacteria83 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meanmachine Supercharged November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 If CHC not paying for the lawyer fee (estimated S$1M each), maybe kongXiFaCai will use his "own" money to help them. Wrong, Jesus will want to la-kopi from KH how he managed to do all this networking stuff of transferring " God's funds " yet almost get away with it ( lighter sentence ) Cult Warning Signs.. Sounds familiar with what we hear about CHC? http://www.familiesagainstcultteachings.org/Cult-Education/Cult-Warning-Signs/ The true meaning of CHC is " Chin Ho Chia " 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingenius Turbocharged November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 So many people criticising CHC so much, but it does nothing to change the situation. The only thing one can do to really make changes is to go to CHC church on Sundays and tell these things written here in forum to the followers. But who will ? Lol. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez911 Supersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 I dont understand why a faith and belief in a religion constant emphasize on sacrifice. I dont see KH gang scarifying anything. He gain fame, wealth, career and sponsored transport and lodging. Jesus sacrifice for his people, some sacrifice the people. Got - KH sacrifices 2 hours a week "preaching", 1 on Sat 5pm and 1 on Sun 10am... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxus-MIFA9 Supersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 So many people criticising CHC so much, but it does nothing to change the situation. The only thing one can do to really make changes is to go to CHC church on Sundays and tell these things written here in forum to the followers. But who will ? Lol. If the followers mind is set to follow their 'leader', no one can change their mindset.... It's only they can 'wake-up' themselves ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinobii Hypersonic November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 So many people criticising CHC so much, but it does nothing to change the situation. The only thing one can do to really make changes is to go to CHC church on Sundays and tell these things written here in forum to the followers. But who will ? Lol. No one wants to walk into the lion's den, later kanna psycho-ed jia lat ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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