A5SB 1st Gear November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 Legal U turn doesn't mean having right of way. Traffic going straight will have right of way, whether the U turn is legal or illegal. That said, you can be having right of way, and doing what is legal, doesn't mean you can drive with your eyes shut. Driving safely and defensively is the way to go. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nzy Twincharged November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 last time got ppl tell me. accident wont happen if driver speed.. cause will be faster than the other party so wont hit anyone. Accidents will happen at any speed and any time la. Thats why they are called accidents ma. Just that if the speed is lower the chances of survival/escaping with minor injuries will obviously be higher right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humsuplo Neutral Newbie November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 assuming this accident was not fatal and only car and bike was damaged.... i.e both rider and driver is not physically injured at all who will win the insurance claim? my true experience is: CAR will win period! and to top it off its a 100% win against all claims against the other party although it is a legal turn whatsoever.... I have the right of way hence no questions asked. after this incident prompted me to get video camera... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evillusion Supersonic November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 Legal U turn doesn't mean having right of way. Traffic going straight will have right of way, whether the U turn is legal or illegal. That said, you can be having right of way, and doing what is legal, doesn't mean you can drive with your eyes shut. Driving safely and defensively is the way to go. some driver/rider can be a prick. I kana 1 time where i was filtering right. Signal oredy, check mirror and physically glance to the right. When want to change lane then realised that there was a vehicle keeping the same speed as mine out of sight of my side view mirror. Lucky i checked and took a further glance, if not hosay liao and i will be in the wrong. But the other car oso funny one....no horn and not even a hi beam and kept speed constant and at same speed as mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayerblah Neutral Newbie November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 something i dont understand is .. how does the father knw his son was make a legal u turn? he is not even there..is either amber the Rx8 pick up speed or the biker lost cntrol n release his brake .. there was 1 time my father ride a bike he thought everything was save n release the handbrake the bike jerk to the front .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellts Neutral Newbie November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 How about this scenario? An accident involving a car and a motorcycle. The car while turning right at junction collided with the bike. The bike has the right of way, light was green.However it was later found out , the bike rider has no licence to drive.The rider suffered light injuries Who is at fault? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limpeh23 2nd Gear November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 something i dont understand is .. how does the father knw his son was make a legal u turn? he is not even there..is either amber the Rx8 pick up speed or the biker lost cntrol n release his brake .. there was 1 time my father ride a bike he thought everything was save n release the handbrake the bike jerk to the front .. I think what he meant was that junction is a designated u-turn junction, therefore it is a 'legal' u-turn, not like those junctions where there is no u-turn sign but drivers/riders still make illegal u-turns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 impact of the crash from asiaone... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A5SB 1st Gear November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 How about this scenario? An accident involving a car and a motorcycle. The car while turning right at junction collided with the bike. The bike has the right of way, light was green.However it was later found out , the bike rider has no licence to drive.The rider suffered light injuries Who is at fault? On traffic junction, bike going straight when its green light always have right of way. Fact that he has no license doesn't make the car driver free from liability. Driving without license is a separate matter which should be dealt with separately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 impact of the crash from asiaone... Very very scary to look at! Appearances can be deceiving, but it's very hard not to look at that sort of picture and jump to the speeding conclusion. Have to keep eyes open for any reports to see what the news is like... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostrider 3rd Gear November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 Legal U turn also means that one have to exercise caution aka giving way to vehicles who has the right of way before proceeding to make the turn. Many factor involved here...just sad that mistake + mistake = a lost life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snl2601 Clutched November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 objectively, rx8 driver could have stopped / slowed down n changed lane if the speed was within limits, even tho rider flouted traffic rule. right of way =/= right. does it mean i'm right if i knocked down pedestrian crossing road without look out for my car travelling on road? yes, it's frustrating but drivin / riding is lidat, have to lookout for others' safety also. u may curse / swear after that tho. Can i ask, if i cant stop on time? and the next lane had another vehicle? Who is right? and who is wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youth92 2nd Gear November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 I know the accident site and it has a legal u-turn. Rumours has it that the motor didn't see the Rx-8 when making the turn and Rx-8 didn't see the motor when going straight (i heard rx-8 speeding) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 Can i ask, if i cant stop on time? and the next lane had another vehicle? Who is right? and who is wrong? even you have the right of way, you can't stop on time and kill someone, they won't give you a trophy one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happily1986 5th Gear November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 I know the accident site and it has a legal u-turn. Rumours has it that the motor didn't see the Rx-8 when making the turn and Rx-8 didn't see the motor when going straight (i heard rx-8 speeding) there are two lanes for motorists to make right turns although U turn is only permitted in the rightmost one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfenstar 3rd Gear November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 SORRY but I TAKE BACK MY HIGHLIGHTED. But my point is if it is the rider's own negligence that causes his own death, what are the clauses to protect we, the drivers? Sometimes none. It's our responsibility to watch out for more vulnerable road users. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pureness Clutched November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 Legal U turn also means that one have to exercise caution aka giving way to vehicles who has the right of way before proceeding to make the turn. Many factor involved here...just sad that mistake + mistake = a lost life. mistake + mistake? the rider made a mistake by not checking if the lane is clear before turning but who made the other mistake? the driver of the rx8? it was not reported that the driver was drunk nor was he speeding, why must we assume he was speeding? why not assume that he was trying to be safe and checking his blindspot while trying to filter to the other lane? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pureness Clutched November 20, 2012 Share November 20, 2012 impact of the crash from asiaone... cars nowadays will have the front and the engine to act as impact cushion from these pictures the engine is still in place and even the front wheels are in the correct position i'm very certain that the crash happened below 60km/h; the driver wasn't speeding ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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