Ysc3 Twincharged July 21, 2020 Share July 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jellandross said: I can't understand how those facts can lighten his sentences though. How did the judge expect the stepfather to de-escalate the situation without resorting to force while her daughter was being strangled in front of his eyes? I can also get 54 people to write me a testimonial that they have never ever seen me surfing porn but does it mean its the truth? It's the other way round... You must have 54 voyeurs see you watch porn - without reaction; then can prove whatever you need to prove. ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellandross Supersonic July 21, 2020 Author Share July 21, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, inlinesix said: Will these 54 people willing to take risk of being sued for perjury if they lie? That's my point. They are not lying because I've never surfed porn in their presence and they've never caught me in the act so the testimonials remains truthful. But the testimonials are also at best a superficial description of how a person pretends to behave in public and says nothing of his real character in private. It would be very disappointing if the judge even gives any credit to the testimonials at all. Bear in mind the crime took place in private. So my logic is the testimonials of the fker's public persona is totally irrelevant and that's why I can never be a lawyer. Edited July 21, 2020 by Jellandross 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic July 21, 2020 Share July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Fcw75 said: But it’s the truth leh. So what Rhaesaa Khan said it’s not wrong, just politically incorrect isn’t it? 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic July 21, 2020 Share July 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Fcw75 said: But it’s the truth leh. So what Rhaesaa Khan said it’s not wrong, just politically incorrect isn’t it? POFMA means it's false? May be just an inconvenient truth. Now I also better shaddup in case I POFMA also. 😂 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic July 21, 2020 Share July 21, 2020 12 hours ago, inlinesix said: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/nus-student-who-climbed-into-ex-girlfriend-s-home-and-strangled-12941362 To Court, this is a MINOR offence! How can the person’s background and educational status even be a factor in sentencing? Really FUBAR. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic July 21, 2020 Share July 21, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Fcw75 said: How can the person’s background and educational status even be a factor in sentencing? Really FUBAR. You ask the judge lo. DPP is fine with the sentencing Edited July 21, 2020 by inlinesix 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic July 21, 2020 Share July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, inlinesix said: You ask the judge lo. DPP is fine with the sentencing Clear mandate given. Now can anyhow chut "good family" stun. 1 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic July 22, 2020 Share July 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Turboflat4 said: Clear mandate given. Now can anyhow chut "good family" stun. It is NOT "good family" stun la. His lawyer was able to produce 50 character witness. I included mothership report in stressful thread. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator July 22, 2020 Share July 22, 2020 19 hours ago, Jellandross said: PAP char bors also buay songz... In a rare move, the People's Action Party Women's Wing has weighed in on a court case, saying it is dismayed at the sentence a National University of Singapore (NUS) student received for trying to strangle his former girlfriend. In a short statement on Tuesday (July 21), the PAP Women's Wing said it has also shared its concerns about the sentencing with the Minister for Home Affairs, "who has committed to look further into the matter". https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/sentence-for-nus-student-who-tried-to-strangle-ex-girlfriend-disproportionate PAP Women's Wing = AWARE-lite 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didu Turbocharged July 22, 2020 Share July 22, 2020 MHA to review penalty framework following sentencing of NUS student in strangling case https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/nus-student-strangling-case-penalties-offender-shanmugam-12949912 --> Our "system" is a little reactive here only after noise started coming from the ground. "..the extent to which an offender's educational background and other factors should be relevant or not; and the relativity in punishment between this offence and other offences, for example how the punishment for a hurt offence compares to theft or spitting." --> This "education" factor may carry less weight years ago, but seems to have grown to a deciding factor in recent years. "I think courts are not the issue. Courts are independent. When we disagree, the approach should be to look at the legal policy framework, which the Government can change," he said. --> Basically he's absolving the court from any wrong, and blames the Govt who handles the "legal policy framework". --> Let's see what Mr. Yin will get in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged July 22, 2020 Share July 22, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Didu said: MHA to review penalty framework following sentencing of NUS student in strangling case https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/nus-student-strangling-case-penalties-offender-shanmugam-12949912 --> Our "system" is a little reactive here only after noise started coming from the ground. "..the extent to which an offender's educational background and other factors should be relevant or not; and the relativity in punishment between this offence and other offences, for example how the punishment for a hurt offence compares to theft or spitting." --> This "education" factor may carry less weight years ago, but seems to have grown to a deciding factor in recent years. "I think courts are not the issue. Courts are independent. When we disagree, the approach should be to look at the legal policy framework, which the Government can change," he said. --> Basically he's absolving the court from any wrong, and blames the Govt who handles the "legal policy framework". --> Let's see what Mr. Yin will get in the end. I think we just have to be patient with the legal framework work within your circle of constraints. Edited July 22, 2020 by Sdf4786k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic July 22, 2020 Share July 22, 2020 31 minutes ago, Didu said: MHA to review penalty framework following sentencing of NUS student in strangling case https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/nus-student-strangling-case-penalties-offender-shanmugam-12949912 --> Our "system" is a little reactive here only after noise started coming from the ground. "..the extent to which an offender's educational background and other factors should be relevant or not; and the relativity in punishment between this offence and other offences, for example how the punishment for a hurt offence compares to theft or spitting." --> This "education" factor may carry less weight years ago, but seems to have grown to a deciding factor in recent years. "I think courts are not the issue. Courts are independent. When we disagree, the approach should be to look at the legal policy framework, which the Government can change," he said. --> Basically he's absolving the court from any wrong, and blames the Govt who handles the "legal policy framework". --> Let's see what Mr. Yin will get in the end. AG already said not appealing for whatever reasons. So the farker will be detained for 12 days WITHOUT criminal records. Perhaps there should be an independent online register for this class of criminals/sex offenders so whatever they do can be recorded for perpetual reference, eg for parents to check before engaging tutors for their kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator July 22, 2020 Share July 22, 2020 I have consolidated all posting with regards to the latest NUS case under 1 single thread to facilitate better discussion. Do let me know if you come across relevant posting in other thread, in case I miss them. Thanks. OK my take: Our juridical system needs a serious overhaul. From the many recent cases, the differences in punishment dished out is an eye sore. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxus-MIFA9 Supersonic July 22, 2020 Share July 22, 2020 Gone were the Justice Pao era where when a "Prince committed an offence, will face the same charges as commoners" Now is no matter what offences committed, if you have a good future & from NUS , you have a light sentence.... to 'Justice' 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic July 22, 2020 Share July 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Picnic06-Biante15 said: Gone were the Justice Pao era where when a "Prince committed an offence, will face the same charges as commoners" Now is no matter what offences committed, if you have a good future & from NUS , you have a light sentence.... to 'Justice' + bonus if amdk 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic July 22, 2020 Share July 22, 2020 My initial thought. Perp is a local? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic July 22, 2020 Share July 22, 2020 (edited) Our penal code for abuse is non-existence. So is sexual abuse or child abuse. I dunno maybe the law makers are trying to add them to our penal code. This case for instance is a good example. The perpetrator got away with such a light sentence is exactly why the punishment for abuse isnt there. And what the prosecutors have to use "voluntarily causing hurt" as a charge. This is mostly use between strangers, ppl punch or kick each other. But when it comes to abuse the parties involved know each other and grievous harm is usually applied. That's more or less the definition of "abuse". Time to ask the law minister more questions. Why is our law so out dated? Edited July 22, 2020 by Watwheels 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged July 22, 2020 Share July 22, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 10:00 AM, inlinesix said: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/nus-student-who-climbed-into-ex-girlfriend-s-home-and-strangled-12941362 To Court, this is a MINOR offence! That is about to change, coz law minister step in lao.. Hopefully it would have some good news to come in the future. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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