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On 6/19/2025 at 8:33 PM, Atonchia said:

Maybe complement by ground sonar 😅

Or use same tech that detect earthquake 😅

It is always about frequency of radar

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Hypersonic
On 6/19/2025 at 8:32 PM, Lala81 said:

there's a british F35 that emergency landed in india airport. The indians also claim can detect.

yeah lah. everyone can detect. but issit can detect before the F35 fire a anti-radar missile at you or after? Or maybe the B2 already bombs away liao...

hah

So far, only Serbia shot down stealth planes by luck.

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On 6/19/2025 at 8:43 PM, inlinesix said:

So far, only Serbia shot down stealth planes by luck.

F117 Night hawk was shot down before too right?

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On 6/19/2025 at 8:45 PM, Atonchia said:

F117 Night hawk was shot down before too right?

Yup

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On 6/19/2025 at 8:32 PM, Lala81 said:

there's a british F35 that emergency landed in india airport. The indians also claim can detect.

yeah lah. everyone can detect. but issit can detect before the F35 fire a anti-radar missile at you or after? Or maybe the B2 already bombs away liao...

hah

As usual...some peeps from south asia will cum claim any possible credit...I tink the British pilot must have rofl after landed...of course need to turn off stealth mode if want to do emergency landing mah...😂

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On 6/19/2025 at 8:59 PM, mersaylee said:

As usual...some peeps from south asia will cum claim any possible credit...I tink the British pilot must have rofl after landed...of course need to turn off stealth mode if want to do emergency landing mah...😂

"We detected a radio call from F35" 

On both VHF 121.5 and UHF 243 channels.

"Mayday mayday mayday, milk-tea 522, engine flame out, request immediate landing" 

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On 6/19/2025 at 8:32 PM, Lala81 said:

there's a british F35 that emergency landed in india airport. The indians also claim can detect.

yeah lah. everyone can detect. but issit can detect before the F35 fire a anti-radar missile at you or after? Or maybe the B2 already bombs away liao...

hah

That bird was equipped with Luneberg lens, often installed onto stealth jets during peacetime to obscure their true radar signature by adding extra reflectors. Whether it is the pilot contacting the India airport, or them seeing a stealth jet that is equipped with such spoofing devices, sure, they can see. But in a real shooting match, the stealth jets are intended to look quite different on radar. 

BTW, the US has reactivated their F-117A, quite likely in an aggressor role to train against other adversaries' stealth jets.

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On 6/20/2025 at 7:08 AM, Davidklt said:

theres absolutely nothing to cheer about for them.

those are 1990s hornets, no longer even in production. HTF will they maintain them. And they supposed to serve till possibly 2040s😬??

".....Their transfer is seen by Malaysian defense planners as a practical interim solution to address gaps in combat readiness while awaiting the delayed implementation of the MRCA program, which is now projected to commence under the 15th Malaysia Plan around 2040....."

If SMRT were to resort to getting 2nd hand 1990s trains to use till even 2030, heads wold roll even in MOT, and they talking fighter jets whose bodies must be subjected to huge stress.

 

 

Interestingly... news of getting Turkish Kann. Wonder if thats  anything eventually to do with their MRCA. If they get Kann, whats the deal with another platform in 2040 when the Kann should serve 30 years easily.😅

https://www.malaysiandefence.com/kaan-for-rmaf-mrca-5g/#google_vignette

 

They reallllyyyy screw up their defence planning to end up where they are today.

 

 

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On 6/20/2025 at 11:36 AM, Playtime said:

theres absolutely nothing to cheer about for them.

those are 1990s hornets, no longer even in production. HTF will they maintain them. And they supposed to serve till possibly 2040s😬??

".....Their transfer is seen by Malaysian defense planners as a practical interim solution to address gaps in combat readiness while awaiting the delayed implementation of the MRCA program, which is now projected to commence under the 15th Malaysia Plan around 2040....."

If SMRT were to resort to getting 2nd hand 1990s trains to use till even 2030, heads wold roll even in MOT, and they talking fighter jets whose bodies must be subjected to huge stress.

 

 

Interestingly... news of getting Turkish Kann. Wonder if thats  anything eventually to do with their MRCA. If they get Kann, whats the deal with another platform in 2040 when the Kann should serve 30 years easily.😅

https://www.malaysiandefence.com/kaan-for-rmaf-mrca-5g/#google_vignette

 

They reallllyyyy screw up their defence planning to end up where they are today.

 

 

Don't think the guys up there get sleepness nights about the country's defense.

more worried about getting boot out before having their pockets filled

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On 6/20/2025 at 11:36 AM, Playtime said:

theres absolutely nothing to cheer about for them.

those are 1990s hornets, no longer even in production. HTF will they maintain them. And they supposed to serve till possibly 2040s😬??

".....Their transfer is seen by Malaysian defense planners as a practical interim solution to address gaps in combat readiness while awaiting the delayed implementation of the MRCA program, which is now projected to commence under the 15th Malaysia Plan around 2040....."&quot

If SMRT were to resort to getting 2nd hand 1990s trains to use till even 2030, heads wold roll even in MOT, and they talking fighter jets whose bodies must be subjected to huge stress.

 

 

Interestingly... news of getting Turkish Kann. Wonder if thats  anything eventually to do with their MRCA. If they get Kann, whats the deal with another platform in 2040 when the Kann should serve 30 years easily.😅

https://www.malaysiandefence.com/kaan-for-rmaf-mrca-5g/#google_vignette

 

They reallllyyyy screw up their defence planning to end up where they are today.

 

 

I remain very surprised that the retired the MiG29s so much early when Ukraine is still flying them from the Soviet era.

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On 6/20/2025 at 12:50 PM, Davidklt said:

I remain very surprised that the retired the MiG29s so much early when Ukraine is still flying them from the Soviet era.

well the ukranians probably had a lot more expertise and spares on hand.

plus they also got help from other former eastern bloc countries that gave them their Mig29 spares etc. Some just transferred their Mig29s to ukraine as they already on F16s. Some NATO forces changing to F35s already transferring spare F16s even.

ive also read before that malaysia had a lot of problems with Russian contractors too. Sending entire jet back to russia for deep maintetnce cant be easy.

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On 6/20/2025 at 4:02 PM, Xefera said:

In general. I think it's easier to build a missiles or rocket to break through a defence shield. Compare to building a shield that can stop all incoming missiles 

And it's easier to build a radar to detect stealth, then build a stealth that can evade all radar.

 

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On 6/20/2025 at 4:25 PM, Beregond said:

In general. I think it's easier to build a missiles or rocket to break through a defence shield. Compare to building a shield that can stop all incoming missiles 

And it's easier to build a radar to detect stealth, then build a stealth that can evade all radar.

There is no such thing as easier.

A lot of times, massive number of missiles/rockets overwhelm air defence resulted in a number of missiles/rockets not detected.

Even know which frequency can detect stealth plane, the computer must be able to recognise it as a plane and NOT bird.

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