Alau3978 3rd Gear December 28, 2025 Share December 28, 2025 I will charge my car when it is around 40%. Usually I charge at my hdb carpark. The car alarm comes on when it is around 10-11%. Mileage left 50km. AC charges $0.67 per kWh . DC charges $0.76 to $0.82 per kWh depending on location and voltage. If you stay at private property, definitely must buy EV. Rich gets Richer. Home electricity is around $0.30 per kWh. ↡ Advertisement 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic December 28, 2025 Share December 28, 2025 On 12/28/2025 at 9:21 AM, Alau3978 said: I will charge my car when it is around 40%. Usually I charge at my hdb carpark. The car alarm comes on when it is around 10-11%. Mileage left 50km. AC charges $0.67 per kWh . DC charges $0.76 to $0.82 per kWh depending on location and voltage. If you stay at private property, definitely must buy EV. Rich gets Richer. Home electricity is around $0.30 per kWh. Since EV needs some time to charge using AC, it would be better to charge when it drops to 50%. Even between 60% to 70% also can charge. So that the charging time would be shorter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alau3978 3rd Gear December 28, 2025 Share December 28, 2025 Noted thanks. Sometimes when mileage drops too low, no choice but go to shopping centre to charge. Pay for DC charging and also for parking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic December 28, 2025 Share December 28, 2025 On 12/28/2025 at 2:23 PM, Alau3978 said: Noted thanks. Sometimes when mileage drops too low, no choice but go to shopping centre to charge. Pay for DC charging and also for parking. Unless you don’t mind to pay for the DC, then can drop until quite low then charge lo. If using AC if drop until too low, a bit ‘waste time’ to charge to 80-90%. Unless charge overnight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged December 28, 2025 Share December 28, 2025 So far I notice most challenging stations in HDB car parks are quite empty, even for condos. No reasons why cannot charge AC. Only problem is need to shift car once fully charged. If you are almost empty and need more than 6 hours, charging overnight is a good option 😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 28, 2025 Share December 28, 2025 Charge as and when it is available. For eg Grocery Shopping, Lunch etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic December 28, 2025 Share December 28, 2025 On 12/28/2025 at 4:18 PM, inlinesix said: Charge as and when it is available. For eg Grocery Shopping, Lunch etc. This is the best. No need to wait until it drops low then charge. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkson 1st Gear January 8 Share January 8 (edited) Aion really offers value for money and is much better than BYD imo. You get more features, much better efficiency and it’s like 15k cheaper than the Atto 3. Wonder if more people will catch on and if their sales will increase exponentially this year. Edited January 8 by parkson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic January 8 Share January 8 On 1/8/2026 at 11:57 AM, parkson said: Aion really offers value for money and is much better than BYD imo. You get more features, much better efficiency and it’s like 15k cheaper than the Atto 3. Wonder if more people will catch on and if their sales will increase exponentially this year. i haven't seen any new Ys for a while. X got some people don't mind how fug-ugly it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic January 8 Share January 8 Aion EV in terms of features indeed quite value for money if compared with BYD. People buying BYD is purely for the branding and popularity. Lol. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ake109 Supercharged January 8 Share January 8 The car is very usuable. Just that stupid whisker lights, I think put many people (including me) off. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklim Supercharged January 8 Share January 8 On 12/28/2025 at 9:21 AM, Alau3978 said: I will charge my car when it is around 40%. Usually I charge at my hdb carpark. The car alarm comes on when it is around 10-11%. Mileage left 50km. AC charges $0.67 per kWh . DC charges $0.76 to $0.82 per kWh depending on location and voltage. If you stay at private property, definitely must buy EV. Rich gets Richer. Home electricity is around $0.30 per kWh. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/electric-vehicle-ev-charging-new-law-dec-8-3971986 $750 just to register charger! Plus annual inspection by Licensed Electrical Worker. Not very encouraging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveting99 3rd Gear May 13 Share May 13 (edited) The Aion Y Plus hasn't been updated by GAC for the past three years (first revealed in Oct-2022). GAC is now facing pressure via declining sales and stiff competition in it's mainland market (China) as shown in the graph below. To address the negative sales trend, GAC is going to release a new model that will eventually be the replacement of the Y Plus. Called N60. See pictures below. The front end adopts a large air intake and two blocks of headlights sitting below elongated LED running light strips. The N60 is more conventional and handsome looking model compared to the older Y+. No more funky "angel wings" head lights. The N60’s front and rear overhangs are 17 and 24 degrees, respectively and thus considered short. GAC claims the N60 has coefficient of drag is 0.23, much better than Y+ number of 0.278. Overall the N60 is bigger vehicle compared to the Y+. Dimensions are: Length: 4,615mm (+80mm longer than the Y+) Width: 1,883mm (+13 wider than the Y+) Height: 1,673mm (+23mm taller than the Y+) Wheelbase: 2,775mm (+25mm longer wheelbase than the Y+) Similar to the Y+, the N60 has a short bonnet line, slanted A-pillars, a slightly curved roofline, and a short rear overhang. The semi-recessed door handles most likely means the N60 complies with GB 48001-2026 on door handle safety requirements. The rear suspension is five-link independent type. This gives a much better ride comfort for rear passengers compared to the torsion beam suspension setup on the Y+. There's a a single taillight strip at the rear. Wheels come with either 18" or 19" rims. A step up from the 17" or 18" rims offered on the Y+. Rear boot space is 447L. With the rear seats folded down, expands to 1,947L. Enough for a 2.1m double bed in camping mode. There's also a hidden storage space underneath the floor of the rear trunk. Underneath the front hood, still no front trunk...☹️ The GAC Aion N60 comes as a Front Wheel Drive (FWD) model with an electric motor in the front axle - similar to Y+. The motor peak power output reaches 165kW while the torque is 205Nm. Will see if VinCar neuters the power down to 110kW and thus qualify for Cat A. Three LFP battery options from the GAC Group subsidiary Inpow are available with a capacity of: 45.582 kWhr; 57.433 kWhr, and 69.753 kWhr. The N60 is equipped with GAC Aion's second-generation Magazine Battery. Need to check if the 2nd generation Magazine Battery complies with GB38031-2025 standard for no fire, no smoke requirements. The Aion N60 does the century sprint in 7.9 or 8.5 seconds, depending on the battery option. The CLTC electric range is: 410km (about 335km in WLTP) with the 45.582 kWhr battery pack; 510km (about 415km in WLTP) with the 57.433 kWhr battery pack; or 610km (about 500km in WLTP) with the 69.753 kWhr battery pack. In China the N60 available in three trim levels with the battery pack as the only difference. Prices of the Aion N60 are as follows: Aion N60 410 Ultra – 109,800 yuan (16,090 USD) Aion N60 510 Ultra – 119,800 yuan (17,560 USD) Aion N60 610 Ultra – 129,800 yuan (19,025 USD) Kerb weight ranges from 1,650kg (with the smallest battery pack) to 1,850kg (for the largest battery pack). Load carrying capacity is around 445kg. Despite the weight, N60's drive train energy efficiency is an impressive 11.5kWhr per 100km, which is much better than the Y+ 16.6kWhr per 100km. Looking at +30% better overall energy efficiency! Edited May 13 by steveting99 additional text 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveting99 3rd Gear May 14 Share May 14 The interior of the N60 is much improved over the Y+. Looks more modern and feels more up market. The N60's center console extends to and connects with the front instrument panel, rather than the cantilever design with a gap of the Y+. The N60's front seats having heating (useless feature in Singapore), ventilation and 8-point massage functions. Both front seats uses fake leather with electronic adjustments and memory function. In keeping with the B&B ride type, the rear view mirror is manual folding type. The front passenger seat has zero gravity feature with an extendable leg rest! 👍 There's an option to spec in a 6.6L fridge/warmer! Can chill down to -6 degrees C or warm up to 50 degrees C. Apparently the cost for the fridge/warmer is just 2,000 yuan (USD$300) from GAC and should be available as an aftermarket accessory. There is also the option to include folding tables in the rear seats - similar to that on the Aion V. The steering wheel has been changed to a circular type with the same electronic column gear shifter as with the Y+. At least the air vents are still manual, which is a good thing. Apparently there's a built in dash camera - which will save the trouble of finding an after market solution and figuring out the wiring to make it look nice. There's a 50W wireless mobile device charger is provided with Apple Car Play / Android Auto pairing. The audio system can be configured with up to 11 speakers - don't know if it supports Dolby Atmos surround sound system. An 8.88" (-1.37" smaller than the Y+) LCD instrument cluster for the driver is mounted behind the steering wheel is provided. An upgrade is the 15.4" infotainment touch screen (+0.8" bigger than the Y+) that has 2.5k resolution. Has 8GB of system memory using the latest operating system called ADiGO 6.0 intelligent cockpit - that integrates AI voice large models by Huawei Nebula Space. The rear doors almost open 90%, so those with young families wont have to shoe horn child seats in the back. Another bonus is the step in height of 140mm for easy ingress/egress to the rear seats - will be useful for those who have to ferry seniors around. Same faux leather materials in the back as in the front. The flat floor setup for the rear seats means three people can be easily accommodated. The rear seats can be reclined back - offering adjustable backrests ranging from 117° to 137°. ✌️ The obligatory panoramic sun roof with 2.38m2 coverage - apparently larger than the Tesla Model Y. Comes with a retractable power sunshade.😃 A key differentiator for the Aion N60 is the inclusion of standard Lidar with 3x4D millimeter-wave radars, 11 high definition cameras and 12 ultrasonic sensors across the entire lineup. The intelligent driving system utilizes an end-to-end large model derived from WeRide’s L4 autonomous technology. This enables full-scenario high-level intelligent pilot assistance and automated parking. Powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 8650 automotive chip with 200 TOPS of computing power. The automated parking feature on the N60 should be very good. Not sure if the inclusion of Lidar will be an obstacle in getting the N60 into the shores of Singapore. But it's nice to see this to be a standard feature on GAC rides in new models for 2026. Spec sheet details for the N60 are available here: https://aicarglobal.com/product/aion-n60/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkseah Turbocharged May 14 Share May 14 N60 looks good.. hope it arrives in SG soon in 2026.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveting99 3rd Gear May 16 Share May 16 Dug a bit deeper in GAC's extraordinary drive efficiency claim of 11.5kWhr per 100km and wanted to know how it managed to get such a low number. First of all, that headline grabbing number is based on China's more lenient testing method of CLTC, which means real world WLTP drive efficiency number is going to be much worse. So based on WLTP conversion rate of 0.82 means the overall drive efficiency to be around 14kWhr per 100km. This higher number is more realistic, but still better than Y+'s drive efficiency claim of 16.6kWhr per 100km. So around 15% better efficiency overall, which is still quite an impressive double digit gain. So how did GAC pull this off? It starts with thinking outside the box, innovation and material science. For GAC it's the use of amorphous alloy materials on the drive train. This is going to get a bit technical, but bear with me on this. Amorphous alloy is a new soft magnetic material characterised by high magnetic permeability and lower magnetic core losses in the motor. All BEV motors have a single speed gearbox, so the speed of the vehicle is directly tied to the rpm of the electric motor, which in turn drive the wheels of the vehicle. So the faster the electric motor spins (I.e. higher rpm), the faster the vehicle can travel (i.e. km/hr) down the road. Traditional silicon steel used in motors generates significant magnetic core losses at high frequencies (i.e high rpm). One can easily verify this during highway cruising where higher speed of the vehicle results in higher energy consumption with a corresponding impact of reduced range. The innovation that comes with amorphous alloy technology is that it dramatically reduces the losses when the electric motor is spinning at high speeds. Applied to electric drivetrains, this means more electrical energy is converted to kinetic energy (i.e. moving the vehicle) rather than heat as the magnetic field alternates between the poles of the motor. This results in higher motor efficiency as the energy stored in the battery translates more effectively into driving distance. For owners relying on public chargers (i.e. most Singaporeans), this "efficiency dividend" has practical benefits. An exploded view of the GAC's electric drive train. The four bullet points read: World's first mass-produced amorphous alloy ultra-efficient motor Carbon fiber high-speed rotor scaled mass production Silicon carbide (SiC) products scaled mass production E-drive algorithm further evolved Data source is here: https://www.bitauto.hk/en/news/10011000311.html GAC claims their amorphous alloy drive train in the N60 will: increase power density exceeding 17.29 kW/kg (on a 1,000V platform); peak motor efficiency surpassing 99%; improve vehicle efficiency of 93% under CLTC conditions; resulting in a 4% reduction in overall energy consumption; and an increase in range of 30km to 50km. Those last two bullet point of reduced operating costs and additional free range is most impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic May 16 Share May 16 On 5/15/2026 at 6:40 AM, Tkseah said: N60 looks good.. hope it arrives in SG soon in 2026.. Still front charging port. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveting99 3rd Gear May 16 Share May 16 Digging more into GAC's claim of high efficiency drive train - the following picture has an overview. Top left image. The stator core is made from amorphous metal (a non-crystalline metallic glass) instead of conventional silicon steel. With a slot fill rate of 79%. GAC's motor stator uses flat (rectangular cross-section) copper wire wound in 8 layers, packed into the slots at 79% fill rate. Normally motor stators use standard round wire copper wiring that achieves approximately 40–60% fill rate. More copper in each slot means lower resistance, less heat and more torque per amp. The amorphous alloy core itself cuts magnetic hysteresis losses dramatically compared to silicon steel. Top left image. Carbon fibre rotor. The rotor uses T800-grade carbon fibre (a high-tensile aerospace-grade material) applied via wet winding method. This is where the carbon fibres are impregnated with resin during wrapping for a tighter, stronger bond. At just 1mm thickness, this sleeve contains the magnets at extreme RPM. It also uses fewer rare-earth materials, which reduces cost and supply chain dependency on critical minerals. Bottom left image. Electromagnetic balanced design. GAC claims they've carried out thousands of simulated operating points to get a balanced electromagnetic design. GAC say they used iterative computational optimisation to find the single best electromagnetic geometry for their flat-wire motor — balancing efficiency across the full operating range, not just at peak power. The red star marks the optimal design point selected. Bottom center image. 50% less switching losses using discontinuous Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) algorithms Traditional inverters switch transistors at a fixed high frequency, generating heat at every switching cycle. GAC claims they have a Generalized Discontinuous PWM (GDPWM) algorithm that strategically stops switching certain phases at specific voltage vector angles, cutting the total number of switching events. The result is inverter heat losses cut in half, improving efficiency and reducing cooling demands. Bottom right image. 50% less transmission loss by using high precision gears and low viscosity oil. GAC claims they are using more precisely machined gears alongside thinner lubricating oil (which creates less viscous drag), the gearbox loses far less energy due to friction. This is sometimes overlooked but transmission losses can be 2–5% of total system energy — halving them is a meaningful efficiency gain. Combining the above, GAC says they are able to increase N60's overall drivetrain efficiency. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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