BYD Sealion 7

[Jev]

On 1/10/2025 at 4:37 PM, Beanoyip said:

Unlikely in SG, doesn't make economical sense.

10 yrs time, the UI in your BYD would be so laggy that you feel frustrated to use it. 

Not in SG. But shows that just because it's not a sub 2 year old car you don't need to throw it away...

 

Re 10yo UI tell that to all the people driving around renewed COE cars right now. Or get into current gen japanese car the UI is 10 years old.

 

On 1/10/2025 at 4:53 PM, inlinesix said:

Both of you don't get it.

These cars basically have ZERO PARF.

Additional cost is COE.

Spoil? Throw la.

So simple.

Exactly. So many people don't understand the zero parf makes it even better to renew COE.

[Mkl22]

On 1/10/2025 at 4:53 PM, inlinesix said:

Both of you don't get it.

These cars basically have ZERO PARF.

Additional cost is COE.

Spoil? Throw la.

So simple.

100% upfront rental and can prorate to the day of use.

only extra is the additional 10% road tax each year till year15. 

[Heartlander]

On 1/10/2025 at 4:53 PM, inlinesix said:

Both of you don't get it.

These cars basically have ZERO PARF.

Additional cost is COE.

Spoil? Throw la.

So simple.

You forgot to add in EV battery replacement which typically cannot last more than 10 years and sure need to be replaced if want to drive till expiry of second COE lifespan, which would be very very significant. For a brand new EV at COE + 90k vs COE + EV battery replacement + mechanical tear and wear, and to mention a dinosaur 10 year old gadget vs latest tech. Does not make sense in anyway lah.

[inlinesix]

On 1/10/2025 at 7:33 PM, Heartlander said:

You forgot to add in EV battery replacement which typically cannot last more than 10 years and sure need to be replaced if want to drive till expiry of second COE lifespan, which would be very very significant. For a brand new EV at COE + 90k vs COE + EV battery replacement + mechanical tear and wear, and to mention a dinosaur 10 year old gadget vs latest tech. Does not make sense in anyway lah.

There are case of 21% degradation after 400k km.

For Tesla Model 3 RWD, it is likely lose about 90km range after 400k km.

It is no issue driving the car even though it lose about 90km of range.

Mechanical wear and tear is limited to suspension parts.

If don’t want to pay during 2nd COE, just scrap the car lo.

 

[Heartlander]

On 1/10/2025 at 8:05 PM, inlinesix said:

There are case of 21% degradation after 400k km.

For Tesla Model 3 RWD, it is likely lose about 90km range after 400k km.

It is no issue driving the car even though it lose about 90km of range.

Mechanical wear and tear is limited to suspension parts.

If don’t want to pay during 2nd COE, just scrap the car lo.

 

I would think there is reason EV cars typically come with an 8-year warranty for its batteries. And replacement the whole pack is not cheap, despite being modular in design. I am eagerly awaiting to know of first EV car being renewed of its COE.

[inlinesix]

On 1/10/2025 at 8:18 PM, Heartlander said:

I would think there is reason EV cars typically come with an 8-year warranty for its batteries. And replacement the whole pack is not cheap, despite being modular in design. I am eagerly awaiting to know of first EV car being renewed of its COE.

BYD give 10 years battery warranty.

If spoil before 1st COE, scrap also.  No point replace it.

[Beanoyip]

Actually why SG no leasing model, deduct from salary then get tax free benefits etc. 

[Rskc]

On 1/10/2025 at 8:18 PM, Heartlander said:

I would think there is reason EV cars typically come with an 8-year warranty for its batteries. And replacement the whole pack is not cheap, despite being modular in design. I am eagerly awaiting to know of first EV car being renewed of its COE.

Some already up to 10 years. Thailand MG is lifetime warranty. 

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/motoring/2829412/mg-announces-extended-lifetime-warranty-for-four-models

Think to update your info. Yours is outdated.

Edited January 10, 2025 by Rskc

[Heartlander]

On 1/11/2025 at 12:20 AM, Rskc said:

Some already up to 10 years. Thailand MG is lifetime warranty. 

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/motoring/2829412/mg-announces-extended-lifetime-warranty-for-four-models

Think to update your info. Yours is outdated.

We are not in Thailand.

[Rskc]

On 1/11/2025 at 12:42 AM, Heartlander said:

We are not in Thailand.

Same model is sold in Thailand is also sold in Singapore.

A bro has already pointed out byd in Singapore is already offering 10 years warranty. 

Edited January 10, 2025 by Rskc

[Carbon82]

Do take note that all these 5, 6, 8, 10 or whatever years of warranty come with a mileage cap. Based on my conversation with a BYD SE, 8 years or 160K, whichever come first. 

For owner like me, who clocked between 25K to 30+K/year, it is only about 5 years warranty in reality. 

I have yet to check out this Sealion but basing on my impressions with Atto 3, M6 and Seal, built quality is around that of a Toyota, not as posh / luxurious looking as say the Zeekr and Xpeng.

And with Denza, their sales strategy seems to be modelled closely after Toyota as well. 1 model shared between 2 brands with one having better choice or material and probably better QC. 

Case in point, there is a cheaper version of the Denza D9, BYD Xia

In case you wonder why I suddenly mentioned Toyota in my post, many of  the earlier BYD models were a carbon copy of Toyota. Can you see as what I am seeing? 

[Heartlander]

From Motor show videos, seems this Sealion 7 is launched during the show at 209k, quite diff from 193k before latest COE exercise. Now here all diam diam already. Hopefully those who pre-booked eventually get it at 193k without being asked to top up.

 

[inlinesix]

Knowing BYD pattern, I already said fast hand fast leg buy🤭

[mersaylee]

On 1/12/2025 at 1:22 PM, inlinesix said:

Knowing BYD pattern, I already said fast hand fast leg buy🤭

Not just byd lah...who doesn't want to collect more since not wrong mah...😁

[Heartlander]

Really curious how many units were sold prior to this COE exercise. And whether the AD asked these buyers to top up or not. 

[inlinesix]

On 1/12/2025 at 1:24 PM, mersaylee said:

Not just byd lah...who doesn't want to collect more since not wrong mah...😁

I already predicted BYD will increase price.

Currently, RWD version is same price as Seal while AWD version is more ex than Seal.

More after 2 rounds of COE, RWD Sealion will be more ex than Seal.

 

[Avonez]

Got the sealion 7 at pre launch. It's an attractive offer considering the alternatives and met most of my expectations. Design, ventilated seats, nappa leather and value. The Dynaudio sound system is pretty good. The $12k Coe spike was a bonus too. Usually the dealer will price to sell for new car launches. Heard more than 100 sold at pre launch.

While the interior is premium, the plastic inner boot cover cladding could be made padded. The different front and rear tires sizes will impair tire rotation. Will likely change them out to the same size when they are worn out. 

The closest alternatives are

Xpeng G6 - pricier, no glove box

Zeekr 7x - road tax too high for single motor at 310kw 

Didn't consider the rest as didn't meet my expectations. 

 

 

[Invigorated]

On 1/11/2025 at 1:08 AM, Carbon82 said:

Do take note that all these 5, 6, 8, 10 or whatever years of warranty come with a mileage cap. Based on my conversation with a BYD SE, 8 years or 160K, whichever come first. 

For owner like me, who clocked between 25K to 30+K/year, it is only about 5 years warranty in reality. 

I have yet to check out this Sealion but basing on my impressions with Atto 3, M6 and Seal, built quality is around that of a Toyota, not as posh / luxurious looking as say the Zeekr and Xpeng.

And with Denza, their sales strategy seems to be modelled closely after Toyota as well. 1 model shared between 2 brands with one having better choice or material and probably better QC. 

Case in point, there is a cheaper version of the Denza D9, BYD Xia

In case you wonder why I suddenly mentioned Toyota in my post, many of  the earlier BYD models were a carbon copy of Toyota. Can you see as what I am seeing? 

This only shows how far byd has come. 

It's quite normal to see companies mimic others when they first start out, just look at all the smartphones, which are virtually identically even down to the notches..

It's how they advance thereafter or remain relevant that determines their fate. Look at HTC, Nokia etc.. u don't improve fast enough, bye..

I can say BYD has deviated much today from copying Toyota.. I can't say I would even consider a BYD in the past.. just look at the cars above and even the E6 a few years back only.. urgh...

But they have shown themselves to be rather credible, if not incredible, today.