Rickster 5th Gear November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 (edited) On 11/3/2025 at 2:30 PM, Volvobrick said: One good reason why I am not looking at new conti. Quality has gone down the drain. I think in the past, many is willing to pay more for premium conti marques (besides the badge effect) is because compared to B&B cars, they are generally: 1) Better equipped from a tech & safety equipment perspective. 2) Drives significantly better and more powerful than B&B cars. 3) Looks good/expensive on outside and feels premium on the inside. Now, the tables have flipped because B&B cars are no longer the slow and noisy bone-shaker tin cans equipped with 1 driver-side airbag. Edited November 3, 2025 by Rickster ↡ Advertisement 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 2:48 PM, Rickster said: I think in the past, many is willing to pay more for premium conti marques (besides the badge effect) is because compared to B&B cars, they are generally: 1) Better equipped from a tech & safety equipment perspective. 2) Drives significantly better and more powerful than B&B cars. 3) Looks good/expensive on outside and feels premium on the inside. Now, the tables have flipped because B&B cars are no longer the slow and noisy bone-shaker tin cans equipped with 1 driver-side airbag. hardly see any new E200 these days. conti brands selling mid size saloons dying a slow death. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ake109 Supercharged November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 4:10 PM, Mkl22 said: hardly see any new E200 these days. conti brands selling mid size saloons dying a slow death. If I look at UK prices as an example. Chinese EV like 7X, Sealion 7 going for about 50k sterling. A6 base going for about 52k. But in SG, even take away the 40k EV rebates, why A6 is 50% more? OK part of it is the VES extra 25k (besides the 40k diff). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 4:10 PM, Mkl22 said: hardly see any new E200 these days. conti brands selling mid size saloons dying a slow death. Other than badge prestige, there is no selling point for E200/A6/520 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 4:49 PM, inlinesix said: Other than badge prestige, there is no selling point for E200/A6/520 got... allows you to visit workshop to fix coolant and oil leaks. as an escapism. 😁 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrysfe 5th Gear November 3, 2025 Author Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 11:30 AM, ER-3682 said: $373,000.00 for a "Based"204 Bhp,of course don't sell well..must well pay a bit more for 520i or E200. it seems that the launch model shown is already the higher spec version The base model will look even more bare 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 (edited) On 11/3/2025 at 4:52 PM, Mkl22 said: got... allows you to visit workshop to fix coolant and oil leaks. as an escapism. 😁 And the endless christmas tree lights caused by sensor after sensor failure, after just 3-5 years. I remember seeing somewhere (not sure if it's true) why premium German marques are unreliable after 3-5 years is because in many of their major markets, these cars are actually mostly leased. After a few years, these cars will be dumped on the used car market pretty much worthless. Edited November 3, 2025 by Rickster 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 (edited) On 11/3/2025 at 5:08 PM, Rickster said: And the endless christmas tree lights caused by sensor after sensor failure, after just 3-5 years. I remember seeing somewhere (not sure if it's true) why premium German marques are unreliable after 3-5 years is because in many of their major markets, these cars are actually mostly leased. After a few years, these cars will be dumped on the used car market pretty much worthless. Sometimes I wonder about the patience of people. Willing to spend to keep fixing. Saying it’s part and parcel of conti ownership and wear and tear. Its 2025, it’s not back to the 60s 70s where you have to always visit the workshop to fix this and that. hence it’s no wonder many are embracing EVs, less hassles. Maybe more throw away. But if it’s cheap enough, heck… then just throw. Edited November 3, 2025 by Mkl22 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 5:49 PM, Mkl22 said: Sometimes I wonder about the patience of people. Willing to spend to keep fixing. Saying it’s part and parcel of conti ownership and wear and tear. Its 2025, it’s not back to the 60s 70s where you have to always visit the workshop to fix this and that. hence it’s no wonder many are embracing EVs, less hassles. Maybe more throw away. But if it’s cheap enough, heck… then just throw. Actually before moving to EVs, my concern with EVs is that it will also have the typical perennial christmas tree light ups plaguing conti cars after 3-5 years. But from my research on EVs in China, that has been running for years, and also on teslas in the US and many other parts of the world, it does seem like the elctronics in EVs are generally more reliable. i'm not sure why, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 11:41 AM, ER-3682 said: Anyway,now Prices of this Class of Cars so high,many SME Bosses,also used their Cars longer,also Economy also not good. SME towkay won't buy Audi Gotta be mersilly.... .....while telling staff business no good so gotta cut pay n no bonus 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 6:17 PM, Soya said: SME towkay won't buy Audi Gotta be mersilly.... .....while telling staff business no good so gotta cut pay n no bonus This happened to 1 of my Supplier a few Years ago,Boss told Workers,this Year no Bonus due to poor Business,but Boss & his Brother each bought a zs-Class & 2 Condos,end up,new Year start Work,no Employees turn up to Work. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 6:29 PM, ER-3682 said: This happened to 1 of my Supplier a few Years ago,Boss told Workers,this Year no Bonus due to poor Business,but Boss & his Brother each bought a zs-Class & 2 Condos,end up,new Year start Work,no Employees turn up to Work. Lol...typical pattern 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalstrike Turbocharged November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 1:43 PM, Rickster said: I think audi, at least in SG, is really banking alot on the badge factor to sell their cars. Spec? screw it, can move can liao... equipment level? everything is an option.... interior? black black and more black + design from the last decade. Audi does not have the same brand clout as Merc/BMW/Lexus, period. They will soon become like volvo here at the rate things are going. This new Audi A6 the standard specs not that bad lah. All the ADAS stuff are now standard, B&O audio standard. Maybe only missing the ventilated seats and sunroof. BMW, Audi, Lexus & even Volvo no longer skimp on such things. Worst offender is still C&C's Mercedes-Benz. Spent so much simple Adaptive Cruise Control still an option on a $380k E-Class, when today's cheap and cheerful cheena EV has it as standard. Driving Asst Package which gives you the equivalent ADAS features as this A6 is a $14k option on the E-Class. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Hypersonic November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 9:55 PM, Lethalstrike said: This new Audi A6 the standard specs not that bad lah. All the ADAS stuff are now standard, B&O audio standard. Maybe only missing the ventilated seats and sunroof. BMW, Audi, Lexus & even Volvo no longer skimp on such things. Worst offender is still C&C's Mercedes-Benz. Spent so much simple Adaptive Cruise Control still an option on a $380k E-Class, when today's cheap and cheerful cheena EV has it as standard. Driving Asst Package which gives you the equivalent ADAS features as this A6 is a $14k option on the E-Class. 8.2 seconds for the 2.0T is a joke... Those horses merry go round ones? Or the 7 speed (least number if gears among the conti competition) is the bottleneck? All my current old cars will jiak this A6 anytime. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Supersonic November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 (edited) On 11/3/2025 at 10:04 PM, Volvobrick said: 8.2 seconds for the 2.0T is a joke... Those horses merry go round ones? Or the 7 speed (least number if gears among the conti competition) is the bottleneck? All my current old cars will jiak this A6 anytime. Emissions…. Euro6/7… Europeans ownself screw ownself. Kill their own auto makers and then allow China to swoop in with many EVs. if anything, those greenies should tio pok first. Edited November 3, 2025 by Mkl22 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalstrike Turbocharged November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 10:04 PM, Volvobrick said: 8.2 seconds for the 2.0T is a joke... Those horses merry go round ones? Or the 7 speed (least number if gears among the conti competition) is the bottleneck? All my current old cars will jiak this A6 anytime. All the Germans in this segment roughly around the same acceleration 8 secs (520i), 7.5 secs (E200). Their benchmark has always been each other in the equivalent segment for the longest time. End up the Cheena EVs come in with all the bells & whistles at 1/2 their prices then the Germans surprised Pikachu 🤣 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 10:04 PM, Volvobrick said: 8.2 seconds for the 2.0T is a joke... Those horses merry go round ones? Or the 7 speed (least number if gears among the conti competition) is the bottleneck? All my current old cars will jiak this A6 anytime. All Euro6 German sounds like EV. Drive until sibei sian. Might as well buy EV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Supersonic November 3, 2025 Share November 3, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 10:04 PM, Volvobrick said: 8.2 seconds for the 2.0T is a joke... Those horses merry go round ones? Or the 7 speed (least number if gears among the conti competition) is the bottleneck? All my current old cars will jiak this A6 anytime. Car too heavy lah.! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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