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Problem is that with my earlier Kumhos 712, the ride was much firmer. With the Toyos, it seems that I'm riding on comforty tyres!!

 

Especially taking bends at relatively high speeds, the car feels as if it rolls more on the Toyos...?? So perhaps I should firm up my suspension, which wouldn't feel as bad now with the added softness c.f. with what I would have felt on my harder Kumhos...

Wha, got rolling stone effect ah!!!!

 

Hopefully you will get to know them better to understand the characteristic....I wasn't pushing the rubber hard till after a couple of months (during the NS expedition)!!!!

 

Just to confirm, I guess its true then that the tire is not good in progressive??

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Will try out wheel alignment to see if the problems with stability get resolved.

 

If not, I guess maybe the tyres just don't cut the grade for my driving style...Will either opt to swap out tyres (how are the SO3s??), or firmer suspension...

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Thanks.

 

But I'm wondering if that would resolve and improve my braking, cos that's another main concern I have with the Toyos...

 

Hmmm...Considering all the negative points I've experienced, perhaps the Toyos simply aren't for me and my car... [:/][shakehead][sweatdrop]

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Hi, I hope brothers in the forum will be able to advise on the S03!!!!

 

I would like to meet up with you if you are turning up for any meet up...got to check it out with you man.

 

Gues I must have been pretty mild in my driving and would not have experience what you have got. Do be careful as you don't feel comfortable with your new shoe.

 

Will check back here to see if you manage to resolve the problem.

 

Good luck!!

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Errr..Don't say until like I have a lot of experience like that... [:p][sweatdrop]

 

Actually, I don't dare go fast nor try antics with my puny Sunny, just that the tyre feels very different with little feedback, from what I'm usually accustomed to...And that alters my driving habits slightly, which I may not be willing to live with...[:/]

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Try cheap-cheap method first...... [sweatdrop][laugh][laugh]

 

Ok. I tried the "cheap", "cheap" method and it was still no difference. The excessant body roll is still present and really de-stabilizing the car... [dizzy]

 

However, I did notice a slight dip in height on the driver's side, which my mechanic diagnosed to be normal bushing wear on the arm...The different in height is about 0.5-1 finger spacing lower than the front passenger side. The rear wheels seem normal.

 

Would that have contributed to a significant difference in body-roll?? Still, a few mechanics (I went for 2nd opinions) reckon it's normal cos of prolonged weight exertion at the driver compartment side.... [:/]

 

In any case, my mechanic doesn't believe I can fix the bushing, short of changing out the entire lower-right arm that holds the suspension / shock, which is a bit of an overkill.... [:/][:|]

 

Guess I'll have to up the ante and check out firmer shocks, unless someone has a better suggestion??

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I really don't think a new set of tyres can make such a difference in the body roll and I believe it's more of a function of the suspension but you experience this after you've changed the tyres................. [confused] One way to check is to borrow used tyres of different brand and compare the roll.

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Thanks for the reply. [:)]

 

I have come to the same conclusion as well. Perhaps, due to the partially deflated Kumho puncture tyre (prior to swapping to Toyos), my suspension became affected. [crazy]

 

As such, I guess the next step is to find a better suspension setup...Maybe I'll try some Eibach Pro-Kit lowering springs as a first measure. I've checked and the Eibach does make springs (1.4" lowered) for my car. There is a sporting version as well, which lowers it by 1.9", but I think that's an overkill...

 

Any idea where is a good / cheap place to get em??

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My view is that a lowered springs should be matched with appropriate shocks. How about the Sachs Sporting set? Do they have any springs/shocks combo for your car? BTW, the springs from the Sachs Sporting set is made by Eibach. Heard that this is the current favourite shock/springs combo among Beemers.

 

Oh..... usually, it's the shocks that malfunction first, not the springs. So you might want to check your shocks first.

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