[Error] Mazda & Vezel Thread

[Wormee]

I owned several AD cars and have gotten recall where they have deemed as voluntary and not a risk to driveability and safety to others. So its up to the owner to do it or not.

 

I think if the recall is major and would impact on the safety of the driver and other road users, the authorities will step in and request the AD to assist. Think this was what happened back then for the Toyota Wish.

 

Given the risk and yet so many still buy cars from PI. Personally i rather take the risk and drive the car that i like then forcing myself to buy the car that i dont like from AD because i scare of recalls and warranty. This wont stop me from buying from PI unless the PI cant deliver my car.

 

There are thousands of workshop in sg, dont tell me no one can fix a bread and butter jap car, as long as u can pay. Just go ahead and buy the car that u like.

Very true bro. It is really a personal choice be it an AD car or PI car.

 

Just weigh the pros and cons and make that choice where u won't regret.

[Sean73]

Hi, can I ask?

 

What happen to the PI cars when there is a universal recall?

My current car is under AD..even though it is nine year old and no longer under warranty, they sent me a letter asking me to go back to replace a faulty part due to the major recall...and at no cost. So for PI car, how does PI handle huh?

 

For those who own a Vezel hybrid, can provide feedback? Or can pm privately to tell me more.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

You have ask a very good question whereby most buyers are unaware of this major issue.

 

Before signing on the dotted line, always ask that dealer for past recall campaign carried out by them.

 

Under Law, the importer is liable for any future recalls that the manufacturer initiate. therefore it's prudent to check whether are they are direct importer by asking for shipping documents ( bill of lading ) which shows the consignee and the past recall campaign.

 

Take note, any recall campaign is free of charge for consumers and some recall campaign cost a few thousand dollars therefore choose the correct P.I and not any tom , dick and harry. 

Edited December 20, 2015 by Sean73

[Cove]

Very true bro. It is really a personal choice be it an AD car or PI car.

 

Just weigh the pros and cons and make that choice where u won't regret.

Yup, its our money. Don't let the SE tell us what to buy. Buy what you want and not what they want you to buy.

 

If i want to buy AD car, i will buy because i like the car and not because i scare the warranty and recall issue.

[Alphaleesg]

Hi,

 

Having owned a PI car before and AD car now. When it comes to universal recall, PI cars will not be included. That's the risk owners take. And if there is a problem, it is up to the warranty coverage T&Cs offered by the PI. Needless to say, owner will have to pay for parts replacement after warranty period.

 

For e.g., Assuming there is the recall on the Honda Jazz due to whatever reason by Kah Motors, the Honda Fits equivalent from the PIs does not get the recall and replacement of the faulty part.

Thanks!

I owned several AD cars and have gotten recall where they have deemed as voluntary and not a risk to driveability and safety to others. So its up to the owner to do it or not.

 

I think if the recall is major and would impact on the safety of the driver and other road users, the authorities will step in and request the AD to assist. Think this was what happened back then for the Toyota Wish.

 

Given the risk and yet so many still buy cars from PI. Personally i rather take the risk and drive the car that i like then forcing myself to buy the car that i dont like from AD because i scare of recalls and warranty. This wont stop me from buying from PI unless the PI cant deliver my car.

 

There are thousands of workshop in sg, dont tell me no one can fix a bread and butter jap car, as long as u can pay. Just go ahead and buy the car that u like.

Thanks!

You have ask a very good question whereby most buyers are unaware of this major issue.

 

Before signing on the dotted line, always ask that dealer for past recall campaign carried out by them.

 

Under Law, the importer is liable for any future recalls that the manufacturer initiate. therefore it's prudent to check whether are they are direct importer by asking for shipping documents ( bill of lading ) which shows the consignee and the past recall campaign.

 

Take note, any recall campaign is free of charge for consumers and some recall campaign cost a few thousand dollars therefore choose the correct P.I and not any tom , dick and harry.

Thanks!

[GLXi]

Hi, can I ask?

 

What happen to the PI cars when there is a universal recall?

My current car is under AD..even though it is nine year old and no longer under warranty, they sent me a letter asking me to go back to replace a faulty part due to the major recall...and at no cost. So for PI car, how does PI handle huh?

 

For those who own a Vezel hybrid, can provide feedback? Or can pm privately to tell me more.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

The PI I bought my Vezel from, assured me that his company will be able to do the required repairs as long as i do my regular servicing with his AW.

 

[jg2000]

Hi,

 

Owned a Airwave and it comes with so-call tinted glass. Some JDM (PI) cars comes with so-call tinted glass are actually privacy glass. Yes they are darker to a certain extend but it does not block IR or UV penetration. I won't comment on Vezel since I do not know what glass it comes with.

 

When it comes to solar film, there is actually clear shade film that blocks IR and UV, which it can be used on tinted/private glass (usually at the back windows of JDM/PI cars) thus not failing LTA requirements.

 

If you have to park your car under sun often, it is better to have solar film installed due to the weather in SG. For me, it is always sheltered car park thus I do not think it is necessary for me. It depends on your personal preference.

 

Solar film cannot help keep car cool in hot sun.

Can only help reduce heat of direct sunlight on your skin when u sit in car.

That itself already very useful as Singapore sun can b burning hot when its rays hit your skin.

Also reduce your sun tan from sitting in car with sun shining directly on you.

[Wormee]

Solar film cannot help keep car cool in hot sun.

Can only help reduce heat of direct sunlight on your skin when u sit in car.

That itself already very useful as Singapore sun can b burning hot when its rays hit your skin.

Also reduce your sun tan from sitting in car with sun shining directly on you.

 

Bro, of cos solar film cannot make your car cool in hot sun. It does however rejects heat (depending on the grade, the IRR and UVR percentage) thus reducing the heat built-up in the car when parked under hot sun.

[Eastdude]

As regard to manufacturer recall it not true that PI car are not included. As far as from my own experience.

Use to own a PI honda fit. Was notified via LTA letter Honda issues a recall for faulty door switch that can cause accidental fire. Was inform to approach a list of workshop at sin ming area to get it change.

[Eastdude]

Forgot to mention. It's foc also. Need to call in advance to make appt.

[Wormee]

As regard to manufacturer recall it not true that PI car are not included. As far as from my own experience.

Use to own a PI honda fit. Was notified via LTA letter Honda issues a recall for faulty door switch that can cause accidental fire. Was inform to approach a list of workshop at sin ming area to get it change.

 

Yes I am speaking based on my own experience of owning an Airwave whereby LTA or Honda does not issue me a recall of the car's CVT issue.

 

Good for you that recall is issued for your Fit. I may have been short-changed by my PI years ago alongside with the bad experience with the AW.

 

It may turn out to be good for other PIs depending on their T&Cs.

[hsl118]

Anyone got their Vezel from Hup Long?

[Lava]

The company had recently relocated me from China to JB and I had get myself a truck here to drive around. Of course, the company driver

will send me back to sin on every Fri and pick me from sin to JB on Mon morning.

 

Wife does not feel safe to drive her copper into JB for a weekend stay over at our property here. Therefore, am thinking of getting another car to drive across the border, at the same time is big enough to bring some of the big items from sin to our JB house.

 

Vezel or HRV maybe a good consideration, thus need to hear some advise from those bro who is driving it.

 

1. This car weight only 1,1T with such a big body, how solid is the car in term of safety?

2. The engine is only 1.5L non turbo charge and how is the performance on highway?

[hsl118]

1. Iirc it's almost 1.2 t, Vezel has 8 airbags. FYI:

 

Vezel - 129 bhp, 155 nm, MIJ, similar engine as Jazz. From Parallel Importers, risk of run road.

 

HRV - 118 bhp, 145 nm, MIT, similar engine as City. From AD Kah Motors, tied in for 3+2 years warranty period.

 

2. Easy drive with cruise control on highway, fc 16km/l for father in law's ride at 15k mileage. The S version with paddle shifters useful for overtaking.

[trajet2b]

Wow!you calculate evey single cents. Now then I know Vezel got so many hidding cost. I believe everyone got their reason to buy from AD. And I heard

HRV also selling quite well.

 

what do you mean by hidden cost?

 

One of the reason why Vezel have very low scrap value is due to its CEV rebate. Vezel can have up to $15K CEV rebate back then. This is due to low carbon emission of the new L15B engine.

With CO2 of 155g/km HRV get $0 CEV rebate.

HRV average OMV is about $21K-$22K. Vezel (petrol) with better specs OMV is about $18K to $20K

 

The other thing is me and a few of my friends who bought Vezel are able to secured 1.88% financing as well as own insurance. our COEs are in the region of $60K to $66K

6 Free servicing including material and warranty package by quite a big workshop

 

It varies between PIs.

Edited December 21, 2015 by trajet2b

[trajet2b]

The company had recently relocated me from China to JB and I had get myself a truck here to drive around. Of course, the company driver

will send me back to sin on every Fri and pick me from sin to JB on Mon morning.

 

Wife does not feel safe to drive her copper into JB for a weekend stay over at our property here. Therefore, am thinking of getting another car to drive across the border, at the same time is big enough to bring some of the big items from sin to our JB house.

 

Vezel or HRV maybe a good consideration, thus need to hear some advise from those bro who is driving it.

 

1. This car weight only 1,1T with such a big body, how solid is the car in term of safety?

2. The engine is only 1.5L non turbo charge and how is the performance on highway?

 

see this:

http://www.nasva.go.jp/mamoru/en/car_detail/180

 

You'ld be surprise with this 1.5l. cruising on a highway is so smooth.

 

Edited December 21, 2015 by trajet2b

[K20VTEC]

Anyone know if there is a module out there to do coming home and leaving home lights? The ones where your headlights turn on when you unlock and go off when you start engine / after a time. Such as those found in conti makes and the latest odyssey?

[LYC]

Hi guys,

 

My PI said that vezel all come with tinted glass but I don't think that is so called the solar film right? I saw all the advertisement for vezel in car mart stating come with solar film? I assume the default tinted glass does nottin to block the heat? Is that right? My PI don't install solar film and he mention all owner install it ownself paid if they wanted vcool or other solar film. Is it better to have one or can live without it? Any recommendation? Thanks

 

My PI threw the solar films in for me for all the windows. But the quality is like shit. You are better off without it, then install it yourself at your preferred film provider. The original windows for the X models can still pass even with solar films that are with the most light transmission. 

[jg2000]

I owned several AD cars and have gotten recall where they have deemed as voluntary and not a risk to driveability and safety to others. So its up to the owner to do it or not.

 

I think if the recall is major and would impact on the safety of the driver and other road users, the authorities will step in and request the AD to assist. Think this was what happened back then for the Toyota Wish.

 

Given the risk and yet so many still buy cars from PI. Personally i rather take the risk and drive the car that i like then forcing myself to buy the car that i dont like from AD because i scare of recalls and warranty. This wont stop me from buying from PI unless the PI cant deliver my car.

 

There are thousands of workshop in sg, dont tell me no one can fix a bread and butter jap car, as long as u can pay. Just go ahead and buy the car that u like.

 

As you rightly say "as long as you can pay" on your own without need for the free manufacturer recall.

Question is how much to pay.  Some of the more famous recalls were for the gearbox which is an extremely expensive part (costing up to more than ten thousand dollars to fix - if you want everything brand new and go to AD workshop).

e.g. http://www.autoevolution.com/news/volkswagen-recalling-16-million-cars-globally-to-fix-dsg-gearboxes-71053.html

http://www.torquenews.com/1574/acura-fans-saddened-2015-tlx-transmission-recall (Honda's luxury brand Acura also has recall for transmission)

If your PI closes down within the 10 years life of your vehicle, who can you turn to? 

How many PI's last for 10 years?

If you need to choose a PI car, choose the PI carefully.

Legally, if they are the importer of the car, they need to arrange for a recall with the manufacturer (see below):

http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/maintain_vehicle/electronic_vehicle.html

The above also gives a link to an LTA website where you can check if such a recall has been arranged for your specific vehicle (in case you did not receive the letter)

Edited December 22, 2015 by jg2000