Best comfort/quiet tyres.

[Detach8]

I never compromise on tyres. The four wheels added together make a contact patch with the road approximately the size of a sheet of A4 paper. This contact patch holds a 1+ tonne car + you the driver + your passengers + your cargo.

 

I have used XM2. It's a terrible tyre. VERY quiet. But VERY poor wet grip. Never going to use it again. In fact, I'm never going to use any other crappyass "eco" tyre for that matter. My life is worth more than a 0.5km/l fuel saving.

 

I have also used GR-90. They are so-so, and very expensive for that performance.

 

So far I swear by Michelin PS3. These tyres have been around for ages, and are still in production today. I've gone through many sets of PS3, and have them on almost all my cars except for a Nissan March because they don't make PS3s in 13".

 

The key reason why I highly recommend the Michelin PS3 is that they grip very well both dry and wet, and more importantly, they are very progressive under braking, acceleration and cornering. Even during day-to-day driving on local roads, you will feel the difference in braking.

 

Don't underestimate progressiveness. People always talk about grip and comfort, but never mention progressiveness. A progressive tyre gives the driver a good feel of the handling of the car, and allows them to react by backing off on the gas, or easing off on the brakes to prevent skidding. I've had a set of Bridgestone Potenzas on wife's Golf when we first bought it. While it gripped well, it was terrible on progressiveness and very very bumpy. It made her very nervous when driving and didn't give confidence. Plus it was terribly noisy. When I switched out to PS3, I was pleasantly surprised by the difference it made to the brakes alone -- it was very "touchy" with the Bridgestones, but much more progressive now with the Michelins.

 

I have also driven on PS3s on leisure track days at Sepang, and they blew away the set of Dunlops that were previously on the car by a mile or more.

 

PS3s are quiet when new, and does get a little noisy as they wear down, but they are no where as noisy as performance equivalents from Bridgestone or Yoko. Even Goodyear F1A2 being highly regarded as quiet tyres when new wears down to a "woong woong woong woong" sound which I hate the most.

Edited February 17, 2015 by Detach8

[Donut]

Agreed. Am using it for my Nissan van. Quiet tyre but no way it can beat Advan dB in terms of noise.

 

Yes, it's cheap too.

 

The really quiet tyre in the Dunlop range is Veuro VE302.

 

I dunno abt Advan DB, but LM704 is already very silent. I couldn't even hear any noise most of the time on NS highway. If i let go my pedal at 120km/hr-130km/hr, my car just glide silently, no noise at all. And i not driving a Lexus, just a 1.5cc Jap BB car without any extra soundproofing done.

 

dunno how silent can DB be. How much is DB for 205/45/16? if it costs more than PS3, then its not worth paying.

 

it has soft sidewall which is good for comfort.

 

Well, it has proven its worth on NS highway, it definitely a good bang for the price and will serve its purpose on SG roads

 

However let's see how LM704 goes after 10,000km. Many tyres changed personality after 10,000km

[Mkl22]

I never compromise on tyres. The four wheels added together make a contact patch with the road approximately the size of a sheet of A4 paper. This contact patch holds a 1+ tonne car + you the driver + your passengers + your cargo.

 

I have used XM2. It's a terrible tyre. VERY quiet. But VERY poor wet grip. Never going to use it again. In fact, I'm never going to use any other crappyass "eco" tyre for that matter. My life is worth more than a 0.5km/l fuel saving.

 

I have also used GR-90. They are so-so, and very expensive for that performance.

 

So far I swear by Michelin PS3. These tyres have been around for ages, and are still in production today. I've gone through many sets of PS3, and have them on almost all my cars except for a Nissan March because they don't make PS3s in 13".

 

The key reason why I highly recommend the Michelin PS3 is that they grip very well both dry and wet, and more importantly, they are very progressive under braking, acceleration and cornering. Even during day-to-day driving on local roads, you will feel the difference in braking.

 

Don't underestimate progressiveness. People always talk about grip and comfort, but never mention progressiveness. A progressive tyre gives the driver a good feel of the handling of the car, and allows them to react by backing off on the gas, or easing off on the brakes to prevent skidding. I've had a set of Bridgestone Potenzas on wife's Golf when we first bought it. While it gripped well, it was terrible on progressiveness and very very bumpy. It made her very nervous when driving and didn't give confidence. Plus it was terribly noisy. When I switched out to PS3, I was pleasantly surprised by the difference it made to the brakes alone -- it was very "touchy" with the Bridgestones, but much more progressive now with the Michelins.

 

I have also driven on PS3s on leisure track days at Sepang, and they blew away the set of Dunlops that were previously on the car by a mile or more.

 

PS3s are quiet when new, and does get a little noisy as they wear down, but they are no where as noisy as performance equivalents from Bridgestone or Yoko. Even Goodyear F1A2 being highly regarded as quiet tyres when new wears down to a "woong woong woong woong" sound which I hate the most.

 

ya. i used firestone on my van and the wheels locked during an emergency brake on PIE and i skidded into another car. was claimed 7k on my insurance. i got rid of the firestone and used dunlop z1 star specs. superb performance and "price". I had to parallel import it as no one carried such a size here. so no more crap tires for me too.

 

 

[Ahbengdriver]

can I say something 20 mins before Goat Year to all those who are looking for a ai-pee-ai-chee tyre. We all wanted quietness as much as we can fotr our daily drives. But quiet doesn't always translates to good grip on wet days. I have used my fair share of Goodyears, bridgestones, yokohamas. Yes they are great, quiet/"grippy" and all that - the tyre manufacturers always say that.

 

Wait till you kena the need to E-brake on a wet day, then you know a lot of this is B/S. One of the guys before this posted a long post and its true. The most important grip we want is the grip on wet days. Most tyres especially new will grip well on dry days. Noise aside, you really want a tyre that grips well on both dry n wet days, that drives in a straight line on wet days as it repels water thru its grooves.

 

I will highly recommend Michelin PS-3. Very high threadwear rate(=value for money), equal grip in wet and dry, corner your car steadily, and of course quiet enough.

Its not very expensive these days especially for 15 to 17 inches. Don't save that few dollars and be penny wise pound foolish.

Edited February 18, 2015 by Ahbengdriver

[Chucky2007]

 

I dunno abt Advan DB, but LM704 is already very silent. I couldn't even hear any noise most of the time on NS highway. If i let go my pedal at 120km/hr-130km/hr, my car just glide silently, no noise at all. And i not driving a Lexus, just a 1.5cc Jap BB car without any extra soundproofing done.

 

dunno how silent can DB be. How much is DB for 205/45/16? if it costs more than PS3, then its not worth paying.

 

it has soft sidewall which is good for comfort.

 

Well, it has proven its worth on NS highway, it definitely a good bang for the price and will serve its purpose on SG roads

 

However let's see how LM704 goes after 10,000km. Many tyres changed personality after 10,000km

205/45r16... Yokohama DB and BS GR100 is not available in that size.

 

I'm using pirelli Pzero nero for the 205/45r16... Not quiet at all.. Not slippery at all in all road condition. Fits my needs..to combat extreme noise on NSHW, wear noise cancellation earpiece

[Nav14]

No one here is disagreeing that we should all drive responsibly

and a comfort tyre can be a safe tyre if driven responsibly.

 

In fact the safest car is not the tank like Volvo but the safest car

is actually a car with s very sharp knife stapped to the steering wheel

aimed at the heart of the driver.

 

If this driver is stupid enough to drive dangerously and brake hard,

it will be the last thing he ever does.

 

Now what some people are saying is if you are driving on a wet road

and have to do an emergency braking, different tyres will have different

stopping distances.

 

Now the difference in distance may be 3 feet, it may be 5 feet

or it maybe 10 feet. I think the video conducted by Fifth Gear is even

more than 10 feet.

 

So if you are carrying a sleeping child in the car, would

you rather have the quieter tyre of the one that stop shorter by 10 feet?

 

Now the thing about an accident is - you will never know when it will happen.

 

You could be driving very safety but a kid can run onto the road from a blind

spot, will you be thinking I am glad I got the quieter tyre or the one that stops

quicker?

 

 

If there is any conclusive evidence that large no of accidents during wet conditions are caused by quiet and comfortable tyres, I am very sure, such tyres would have been banned and/or the insurance companies would have included a clause that the insurance would be null and void if such and such brand of quiet tyres were used.

 

When TP came out with the recommended distances (clearly stated in the Highway Code books) to be kept from the car in front of you which varies according your car speed I am very sure it is not based on the grippiest tyre in the market,

 

Bottomline line is if you still remember what you read in the HIghway Code and apply it , which actually is very common sensical , especially for family men with small kids in their cars, in terms of keeping a safe distance from the car in front you that should increase when it rains, there is nothing to worry about, regardless of which car jam brakes in front of you even when it is raining heavlly,

 

The type of tyre does not matter as much as your driving habits.

 

I have been using the quietest and most comfortable tyres (which means the worst in the wet?) for the past 15 years and have come across all kind of situations with cars jam braking in the wet, kids dashing across the road, etc and I have not been involved in any accident due to my tyres. The only time was when I was rear ended in a 3 car chain collision with mine being the first car. It was raining , around a bend and the cars in front suddenly stopped. My car stopped in time but the rear two cars could not. They could not have been using any more quieter and comfortable tyres than mine and yet I managed to stop in time but they could not. Why? Because they forgot about keeping safe distances.

 

So as a family man I rather have my children and family enjoy a smoother and quieter ride and any parent with kids in the car should drive responsibly - that is be alert, keep to the speed limits and recommended distances between cars.

[Nav14]

can I say something 20 mins before Goat Year to all those who are looking for a ai-pee-ai-chee tyre. We all wanted quietness as much as we can fotr our daily drives. But quiet doesn't always translates to good grip on wet days. I have used my fair share of Goodyears, bridgestones, yokohamas. Yes they are great, quiet/"grippy" and all that - the tyre manufacturers always say that.

 

Wait till you kena the need to E-brake on a wet day, then you know a lot of this is B/S. One of the guys before this posted a long post and its true. The most important grip we want is the grip on wet days. Most tyres especially new will grip well on dry days. Noise aside, you really want a tyre that grips well on both dry n wet days, that drives in a straight line on wet days as it repels water thru its grooves.

 

I will highly recommend Michelin PS-3. Very high threadwear rate(=value for money), equal grip in wet and dry, corner your car steadily, and of course quiet enough.

Its not very expensive these days especially for 15 to 17 inches. Don't save that few dollars and be penny wise pound foolish.

 

You should try out the V551 or GR 100 and will realise what you have been missing out on due to your misconception that quiet and comfortable tyres have to be bad in the wet. Provided you drive responsibly that we are all expected to.

[Jusnel]

 

If there is any conclusive evidence that large no of accidents during wet conditions are caused by quiet and comfortable tyres, I am very sure, such tyres would have been banned and/or the insurance companies would have included a clause that the insurance would be null and void if such and such brand of quiet tyres were used.

 

When TP came out with the recommended distances (clearly stated in the Highway Code books) to be kept from the car in front of you which varies according your car speed I am very sure it is not based on the grippiest tyre in the market,

 

Bottomline line is if you still remember what you read in the HIghway Code and apply it , which actually is very common sensical , especially for family men with small kids in their cars, in terms of keeping a safe distance from the car in front you that should increase when it rains, there is nothing to worry about, regardless of which car jam brakes in front of you even when it is raining heavlly,

 

The type of tyre does not matter as much as your driving habits.

 

I have been using the quietest and most comfortable tyres (which means the worst in the wet?) for the past 15 years and have come across all kind of situations with cars jam braking in the wet, kids dashing across the road, etc and I have not been involved in any accident due to my tyres. The only time was when I was rear ended in a 3 car chain collision with mine being the first car. It was raining , around a bend and the cars in front suddenly stopped. My car stopped in time but the rear two cars could not. They could not have been using any more quieter and comfortable tyres than mine and yet I managed to stop in time but they could not. Why? Because they forgot about keeping safe distances.

 

So as a family man I rather have my children and family enjoy a smoother and quieter ride and any parent with kids in the car should drive responsibly - that is be alert, keep to the speed limits and recommended distances between cars.

 

agreed. Basically all tyres are good, even those stock tyres that come with new cars. The only problem is the driver.

 

Sometimes we need to be discerned about the reviews we read. Some or many, i suspect, are deliberate attempts to promote or discredit certain tyres.

 

I have friends or relatives who using those "condemmed" tyres for years, up and down to KL and malaysia, many times. nothing ever happened to them. And yet, i read many online reviews condemming those tyres. I wondered whether the problem is reviewers' driving skills suck or their cars have other mechanical problems.

 

And some brands are being overrated online by "reviewers". Overrated and overpriced. Deliberate attempts to cut throat......... No doubt the tyre may be good, but no need to over promote them until got dragon and tiger.

[Jamesc]

 

If there is any conclusive evidence that large no of accidents during wet conditions are caused by quiet and comfortable tyres, I am very sure, such tyres would have been banned and/or the insurance companies would have included a clause that the insurance would be null and void if such and such brand of quiet tyres were used.

 

When TP came out with the recommended distances (clearly stated in the Highway Code books) to be kept from the car in front of you which varies according your car speed I am very sure it is not based on the grippiest tyre in the market,

 

Bottomline line is if you still remember what you read in the HIghway Code and apply it , which actually is very common sensical , especially for family men with small kids in their cars, in terms of keeping a safe distance from the car in front you that should increase when it rains, there is nothing to worry about, regardless of which car jam brakes in front of you even when it is raining heavlly,

 

The type of tyre does not matter as much as your driving habits.

 

I have been using the quietest and most comfortable tyres (which means the worst in the wet?) for the past 15 years and have come across all kind of situations with cars jam braking in the wet, kids dashing across the road, etc and I have not been involved in any accident due to my tyres. The only time was when I was rear ended in a 3 car chain collision with mine being the first car. It was raining , around a bend and the cars in front suddenly stopped. My car stopped in time but the rear two cars could not. They could not have been using any more quieter and comfortable tyres than mine and yet I managed to stop in time but they could not. Why? Because they forgot about keeping safe distances.

 

So as a family man I rather have my children and family enjoy a smoother and quieter ride and any parent with kids in the car should drive responsibly - that is be alert, keep to the speed limits and recommended distances between cars.

 

Just imagine if the cars behind you were paying more attention and used

 

grippier tyres, maybe they could have stopped in time and your car won't

 

be rear ended. Was you car badly damanged?

 

Edited February 23, 2015 by Jamesc

[Jamesc]

 

If there is any conclusive evidence that large no of accidents during wet conditions are caused by quiet and comfortable tyres, I am very sure, such tyres would have been banned and/or the insurance companies would have included a clause that the insurance would be null and void if such and such brand of quiet tyres were used.

 

When TP came out with the recommended distances (clearly stated in the Highway Code books) to be kept from the car in front of you which varies according your car speed I am very sure it is not based on the grippiest tyre in the market,

 

Bottomline line is if you still remember what you read in the HIghway Code and apply it , which actually is very common sensical , especially for family men with small kids in their cars, in terms of keeping a safe distance from the car in front you that should increase when it rains, there is nothing to worry about, regardless of which car jam brakes in front of you even when it is raining heavlly,

 

The type of tyre does not matter as much as your driving habits.

 

I have been using the quietest and most comfortable tyres (which means the worst in the wet?) for the past 15 years and have come across all kind of situations with cars jam braking in the wet, kids dashing across the road, etc and I have not been involved in any accident due to my tyres. The only time was when I was rear ended in a 3 car chain collision with mine being the first car. It was raining , around a bend and the cars in front suddenly stopped. My car stopped in time but the rear two cars could not. They could not have been using any more quieter and comfortable tyres than mine and yet I managed to stop in time but they could not. Why? Because they forgot about keeping safe distances.

 

So as a family man I rather have my children and family enjoy a smoother and quieter ride and any parent with kids in the car should drive responsibly - that is be alert, keep to the speed limits and recommended distances between cars.

 

By the way you do know that you can drive in such a way that

 

you do not end up getting rear ended?

 

I went for a defensive driving course that teaches how to

 

prevent being rear ended.

 

Sometimes a car after kena accident no matter how well repaired

 

just doesn't drive the same again.

 

Sure some people will drive carefully and use the cheapest, quietest

 

and most comfotable tyre and never hit anyone but I will do my best

 

to encouage people to use the grippiest tyres that stop in the shortest

 

distance. Sometimes a few inches is the difference being rear ended

 

and just miss. I can tell you if my car got rear ended even just a little bit

 

my heart will feel very pain.

 

[Fcw75]

Just use whatever tyre that suit yr preferences. Everyone has different preferences.

 

There's no one tyre for all.

[Jamesc]

If I was rear ended the last thing I will do is encourage

 

people to do is buy the cheapest tyre available.

 

But thats just me. But if people are happy to be rear ended

 

then by all means tell everyone cheap tyres are the way to go.

 

 

 

[Detach8]

 

If there is any conclusive evidence that large no of accidents during wet conditions are caused by quiet and comfortable tyres, I am very sure, such tyres would have been banned and/or the insurance companies would have included a clause that the insurance would be null and void if such and such brand of quiet tyres were used.

 

When TP came out with the recommended distances (clearly stated in the Highway Code books) to be kept from the car in front of you which varies according your car speed I am very sure it is not based on the grippiest tyre in the market,

 

Bottomline line is if you still remember what you read in the HIghway Code and apply it , which actually is very common sensical , especially for family men with small kids in their cars, in terms of keeping a safe distance from the car in front you that should increase when it rains, there is nothing to worry about, regardless of which car jam brakes in front of you even when it is raining heavlly,

 

The type of tyre does not matter as much as your driving habits.

 

I have been using the quietest and most comfortable tyres (which means the worst in the wet?) for the past 15 years and have come across all kind of situations with cars jam braking in the wet, kids dashing across the road, etc and I have not been involved in any accident due to my tyres. The only time was when I was rear ended in a 3 car chain collision with mine being the first car. It was raining , around a bend and the cars in front suddenly stopped. My car stopped in time but the rear two cars could not. They could not have been using any more quieter and comfortable tyres than mine and yet I managed to stop in time but they could not. Why? Because they forgot about keeping safe distances.

 

So as a family man I rather have my children and family enjoy a smoother and quieter ride and any parent with kids in the car should drive responsibly - that is be alert, keep to the speed limits and recommended distances between cars.

 

I'm also using "quiet and comfortable" tyres on my '96 Nissan March... that's because there's no performance tyres available at 13" rim size. That doesn't mean that I end up crashing into people. *Touch wood*

 

Granted, big percentage of accidents are caused/prevented by the thing between the steering wheel and the driver seat, but that doesn't mean that that little percentage chance that tyres could save your ass you give it up. Might as well you don't wear seatbelts, don't have ABS, don't have traction control, don't have airbag. Why need them when the driver is damn good? Some things in the car we may never want to ever have an opportunity to use, such as airbags, but they are there... just in case that one chance you need them, they save your ass.

 

Tyres don't just help with braking. They help with cornering and swerving to avoid obstacles like cats, dogs, or even people.

 

Recently I had a motorbiker got hit and rolled across 3 lanes of AYE and ended up right in front of the car ahead of me. Thank all the gods of all religions that he did not kena run over by anybody after he got hit.

 

And you know why he was hit? Exactly because a van jammed brake upon seeing that the ERP gantry was on, and the taxi behind the van using cheapass tyres could not brake in time, skidded SIDEWAYS (yes there was a big plume of smoke from the tyres, and a loud and long squeal) and hit this poor guy on his bike and flung him sideways from lane 2 all the way to lane 5 just before Clementi Rd exit on AYE.

 

Try on a set of Michelin PS3s. You will be surprised that they are not uncomfortable at all. They are not SUPER quiet but are much quieter than GR-90s I used and definitely much grippier than the Michelin XM2s that I had on a Hyundai Verna that spun in a slippery MSCP.

Edited February 23, 2015 by Detach8

[Jamesc]

 

I'm also using "quiet and comfortable" tyres on my '96 Nissan March... that's because there's no performance tyres available at 13" rim size. That doesn't mean that I end up crashing into people. *Touch wood*

 

Granted, big percentage of accidents are caused/prevented by the thing between the steering wheel and the driver seat, but that doesn't mean that that little percentage chance that tyres could save your ass you give it up. Might as well you don't wear seatbelts, don't have ABS, don't have traction control, don't have airbag. Why need them when the driver is damn good? Some things in the car we may never want to ever have an opportunity to use, such as airbags, but they are there... just in case that one chance you need them, they save your ass.

 

Tyres don't just help with braking. They help with cornering and swerving to avoid obstacles like cats, dogs, or even people.

 

Recently I had a motorbiker got hit and rolled across 3 lanes of AYE and ended up right in front of the car ahead of me. Thank all the gods of all religions that he did not kena run over by anybody after he got hit.

 

And you know why he was hit? Exactly because a van jammed brake upon seeing that the ERP gantry was on, and the taxi behind the van using cheapass tyres could not brake in time, skidded SIDEWAYS (yes there was a big plume of smoke from the tyres, and a loud and long squeal) and hit this poor guy on his bike and flung him sideways from lane 2 all the way to lane 5 just before Clementi Rd exit on AYE.

 

Try on a set of Michelin PS3s. You will be surprised that they are not uncomfortable at all. They are not SUPER quiet but are much quieter than GR-90s I used and definitely much grippier than the Michelin XM2s that I had on a Hyundai Verna that spun in a slippery MSCP.

 

Thank you for your long post.

 

You have convinced me to get the best tyres I can afford

 

and to just get the cheapest. I hope if a biker falls on the

 

road in front of me I can stop or serve in time and not

 

run over him. I think that would give me nightmares.

 

[Jamesc]

I think its amazing that someone can tell everyone to use cheap

 

tyres and not one but two cars hit him in the back cos they

 

couldn't brake in time. I think this has to be karma in action.

 

 

 

 

I just hope he doesn't go to the my truck forum and tell all

 

truck drivers to use cheapest tyres. There again you will amazed

 

the advice some people give. Even I don't wish for a truck with

 

cheap tyres to have to jam brake right behind him.

 

 

 

 

 

[Jusnel]

 

I'm also using "quiet and comfortable" tyres on my '96 Nissan March... that's because there's no performance tyres available at 13" rim size. That doesn't mean that I end up crashing into people. *Touch wood*

 

Granted, big percentage of accidents are caused/prevented by the thing between the steering wheel and the driver seat, but that doesn't mean that that little percentage chance that tyres could save your ass you give it up. Might as well you don't wear seatbelts, don't have ABS, don't have traction control, don't have airbag. Why need them when the driver is damn good? Some things in the car we may never want to ever have an opportunity to use, such as airbags, but they are there... just in case that one chance you need them, they save your ass.

 

Tyres don't just help with braking. They help with cornering and swerving to avoid obstacles like cats, dogs, or even people.

 

Recently I had a motorbiker got hit and rolled across 3 lanes of AYE and ended up right in front of the car ahead of me. Thank all the gods of all religions that he did not kena run over by anybody after he got hit.

 

And you know why he was hit? Exactly because a van jammed brake upon seeing that the ERP gantry was on, and the taxi behind the van using cheapass tyres could not brake in time, skidded SIDEWAYS (yes there was a big plume of smoke from the tyres, and a loud and long squeal) and hit this poor guy on his bike and flung him sideways from lane 2 all the way to lane 5 just before Clementi Rd exit on AYE.

 

Try on a set of Michelin PS3s. You will be surprised that they are not uncomfortable at all. They are not SUPER quiet but are much quieter than GR-90s I used and definitely much grippier than the Michelin XM2s that I had on a Hyundai Verna that spun in a slippery MSCP.

 

My BIL has been using XM2 on his Wish MPV for years, and he never had to spun around in a slippery MSCP before. And he goes up and down NS highway to KL many times with full load.

 

Go take a L plate refresher course again.

 

Here you go again, another one blaming on tyres.....

[flashbang]

On the roads, even if you are 101% safe, somebody else may come by and knock into you. So get the tyres that work best for you and hope that others do the same...

[Detach8]

 

My BIL has been using XM2 on his Wish MPV for years, and he never had to spun around in a slippery MSCP before. And he goes up and down NS highway to KL many times with full load.

 

Go take a L plate refresher course again.

 

Here you go again, another one blaming on tyres.....

WTF are you trying to say? I never spun my Nissan March with $70 tyres before but you are taking your BIL's much more advanced Wish against a 2006 Hyndai Verna that doesn't even have proper ABS on the rear wheels? Don't you assume what you don't know.

 

The MSCP I was in was VERY slippery coming down from a ramp with a puddle of water at the end. "Ponding" as our government calls it. Under normal acceleration and braking, tyres would easily lose traction. I've seen kids on bicycles fall as they go through this stretch on a wet day too. I turned right, and a car was coming right out. I stepped on the brakes and the rear wheels broke traction as one was on the ramp and the other was in the puddle at an angle. A situation like this may be caused by a siezed rear drum, but still the tyres could have helped. You simply assumed it was bad driving.

 

I've also taken cheap Dunlops up the NSHW and to Sepang and drove around the race track and I am still alive and kicking, so it doesn't mean that cheap tyres do not work... they just don't work as well as you would expect and is not as progressive as good tyres. I went back, same car, different tyres (Michelin PS3) and it was so much more controllable at the limits. You can totally drive up and down NSHW in the cheapest tyres and a Cherry QQ and still be alive... only until you meet with an accident.

 

I think you need to stop discouraging people from using performance tyres if they so wish to. My parents are also using comfort tyres in their SUV because proper performance "off-road" tyres are terribly noisy, but we still try to get the best comfort tyre money can buy for safety reasons. Similarly, the Michelin PS3s I've sworn by are not noisy and uncomfortable at all. I absolutely detest Bridgestone Potenzas as they are harsh and noisy.

 

I too, prefer a nice and quiet car where I can have conversations with my passengers. PS3 is surely not as quiet as XM2, but is better than many other performance tyres and I think are perfect for daily drive. Plus they are going for cheap now. I don't work for a tyre shop. I am an enthusiast... and I only feel responsible if I recommend a set of good wheels to friends. I do not tell them to buy cheap tyres... I do not want to live in guilt if one day something happens to them if they bought a set of cheap tyres and got into an accident.

 

Drive safe.

Edited February 24, 2015 by Detach8