Kia K5

[Karu]

This is how the supervision cluster looks like.

 

Dashboard format is same same as I45. Only design is slightly different.

 

[Karu]

Took a quick peek at the K5 at C&C the other day. Exterior design is good. But dunno about the drive. If it's similar to I45, then not very impressive...

[Proton_neutron]

Demand for turbocharged executive sedan? hmm. if there's demand the legacy 2.5GT would be flying off the showroom floor lo.

 

 

 

 

Subaru different. That's a niche brand. I'm comparing to luxury marques. A good one would be 335i and 535i. Both these models are selling pretty well, of course, not as well as the entry level model though, namely 318i and 523i.

 

But there's still that market.

 

 

[Beehive3783]

Subaru different. That's a niche brand. I'm comparing to luxury marques. A good one would be 335i and 535i. Both these models are selling pretty well, of course, not as well as the entry level model though, namely 318i and 523i.

 

But there's still that market.

Don't talk c--k leh.. what makes Subaru different? Niche brand? If you want to talk about executive sedans then make sure you are consistent. Don't flip prata like indian man

[Proton_neutron]

Don't talk c--k leh.. what makes Subaru different? Niche brand? If you want to talk about executive sedans then make sure you are consistent. Don't flip prata like indian man

 

 

 

Subaru is indeed a niche brand. Just look at its sales. Furthermore, not many will take to its AWD Symmetrical Chassis. Their brand name has been on a decline. Executive sedans include the Audi A4, Honda Euro Accord, Suzuki Kizashi among many others.

 

Anyways, the trend now is LPT. E250CGI is 1.8Turbo. Audi A4 has both 1.8TSI and 2.0TSI. BMW just launched their 2.0T producing 245bhp. I don't see why Hyundai-Kia's 2.0T 275bhp will not sell here.

 

 

Edited January 24, 2011 by Proton_neutron

[Beehive3783]

Subaru is indeed a niche brand. Just look at its sales. Furthermore, not many will take to its AWD Symmetrical Chassis. Their brand name has been on a decline. Executive sedans include the Audi A4, Honda Euro Accord, Suzuki Kizashi among many others.

 

Anyways, the trend now is LPT. E250CGI is 1.8Turbo. Audi A4 has both 1.8TSI and 2.0TSI. BMW just launched their 2.0T producing 245bhp. I don't see why Hyundai-Kia's 2.0T 275bhp will not sell here.

Flip here flip there, flip there flip here.. Do you dare to say that the Legacy is not an executive sedan, regardless of sales numbers? Audi also have their Quattro system as well, so only Subaru's AWD system should be ostracized instead of Audi's Quattro?

 

So a declining brand doesn't deserve any mention? Total load of bullsh1t

 

If you can't compare fairly and objectively instead of looking only at the popular models, then I suggest you cut the crap and stop posting

 

 

 

[Proton_neutron]

Flip here flip there, flip there flip here.. Do you dare to say that the Legacy is not an executive sedan, regardless of sales numbers? Audi also have their Quattro system as well, so only Subaru's AWD system should be ostracized instead of Audi's Quattro?

 

So a declining brand doesn't deserve any mention? Total load of bullsh1t

 

If you can't compare fairly and objectively instead of looking only at the popular models, then I suggest you cut the crap and stop posting

 

 

 

I didn't deny the fact that the Legacy is indeed an executive sedan. You failed to bring up the fact that people buy Audi because of the brand, less so because of the car. Why do you think then, that Audi is a luxury brand? People are willing to pay a fortune for the brand image. It isn't fair to include an unpopular brand into the discussion we have here, for the fact that it doesn't have the same basis for comparison with the popular cars on our roads.

 

A sidenote, why do you think the best selling car for 2010 is the Mercedes E-Class?

 

 

 

 

 

[Beehive3783]

I didn't deny the fact that the Legacy is indeed an executive sedan. You failed to bring up the fact that people buy Audi because of the brand, less so because of the car. Why do you think then, that Audi is a luxury brand? People are willing to pay a fortune for the brand image. It isn't fair to include an unpopular brand into the discussion we have here, for the fact that it doesn't have the same basis for comparison with the popular cars on our roads.

 

A sidenote, why do you think the best selling car for 2010 is the Mercedes E-Class?

So it's fair to EXCLUDE an unpopular brand even though it may have the same or better equipment level/engine compared to other brands? What a load of bull.

 

So much crap.. I can see that you're a brand whore as well.. So there's no need to talk further with you..

[Proton_neutron]

So it's fair to EXCLUDE an unpopular brand even though it may have the same or better equipment level/engine compared to other brands? What a load of bull.

 

So much crap.. I can see that you're a brand whore as well.. So there's no need to talk further with you..

 

 

 

Tell you what. Stomach the looks of the current Subaru Legacy first, then come back and talk.

 

Sad to say, I'm NOT a badge whore. If I were, I definitely wouldn't want to be seen in the best selling car of 2010- The E-Class. I'm a style-whore though. I want a decent looking car. Sadly, the Legacy doesn't offer that.

 

I'm not excluding the existence of the Legacy. It does exist. But nobody bothers about its existence and hence, wouldn't be comparing it with other executive sedans in the market.

 

 

 

 

 

[Cttan456]

Actually the 2.0L turbo makes a lot of sense in Singapore where we are taxed based on engine size.

Big engines in mainstream brands never sell well. Just look the small number of Accord, Teana and Camry 3.5L V6s on the road.

But to have the power of a 3.5L V6 and having to pay road tax for a 2.0L with the fuel economy of the 2.4L, it should attract more buyers than its 3.5l V6 rivals.

As it is, I see a small number of 2.7 V6 Hyundai Trajets and Sante Fes on the road. If these thirsty and high road tax engines can sell even in small numbers then a the 2.0L turbo with almost 100bhp more and much more economical in road tax and fuel consumption will attract much more buyers. Not to mention that K5 is one the best looking if not the best looking car in its class.

Anyway regardless of how the K5 sell in Singapore, the K5 is already a huge success in practically every country it is launched.

When poeple buy a Kia in large numbers it is because they like the car but when people buy certain Japanese cars in big numbers, some buy it because of past reputation and not because they like the car. AS we know, past reputation is history and can be misleading in that they give you a false sense of security.

Edited January 24, 2011 by Cttan456

[Proton_neutron]

Actually the 2.0L turbo makes a lot of sense in Singapore where we are taxed based on engine size.

Big engines in mainstream brands never sell well. Just look the small number of Accord, Teana and Camry 3.5L V6s on the road.

But to have the power of a 3.5L V6 and having to pay road tax for a 2.0L with the fuel economy of the 2.4L, it should attract more buyers than its 3.5l V6 rivals.

As it is, I see a small number of 2.7 V6 Hyundai Trajets and Sante Fes on the road. If these thirsty and high road tax engines can sell even in small numbers then a the 2.0L turbo with almost 100bhp more and much more economical in road tax and fuel consumption will attract much more buyers. Not to mention that K5 is one the best looking if not the best looking car in its class.

Anyway regardless of how the K5 sell in Singapore, the K5 is already a huge success in practically every country it is launched.

When poeple buy a Kia in large numbers it is because they like the car but when people buy certain Japanese cars in big numbers, some buy it because of past reputation and not because they like the car. AS we know, past reputation is history and can be misleading in that they give you a false sense of security.

 

 

Flood control double post

Edited January 24, 2011 by Proton_neutron

[Proton_neutron]

Actually the 2.0L turbo makes a lot of sense in Singapore where we are taxed based on engine size.

Big engines in mainstream brands never sell well. Just look the small number of Accord, Teana and Camry 3.5L V6s on the road.

But to have the power of a 3.5L V6 and having to pay road tax for a 2.0L with the fuel economy of the 2.4L, it should attract more buyers than its 3.5l V6 rivals.

As it is, I see a small number of 2.7 V6 Hyundai Trajets and Sante Fes on the road. If these thirsty and high road tax engines can sell even in small numbers then a the 2.0L turbo with almost 100bhp more and much more economical in road tax and fuel consumption will attract much more buyers. Not to mention that K5 is one the best looking if not the best looking car in its class.

Anyway regardless of how the K5 sell in Singapore, the K5 is already a huge success in practically every country it is launched.

When poeple buy a Kia in large numbers it is because they like the car but when people buy certain Japanese cars in big numbers, some buy it because of past reputation and not because they like the car. AS we know, past reputation is history and can be misleading in that they give you a false sense of security.

 

 

 

Tks for explaining my stand in English.

 

 

 

 

[Mustang]

Hmm nice,Seriously i dun mind smaller engine with turbo charged.Make more sense driving in Sillypore where stop n go is common.See my neighbour Volkswagen touran 1.4T MPV,Pick up already win hands down againts the like of Wish or Stream.

[Proton_neutron]

Hmm nice,Seriously i dun mind smaller engine with turbo charged.Make more sense driving in Sillypore where stop n go is common.See my neighbour Volkswagen touran 1.4T MPV,Pick up already win hands down againts the like of Wish or Stream.

 

 

 

1.4TSI still leaves room for better performance. I'd take a 1.6TSI anytime with the current COE categorization. As with the case of the Kia K5, having a 2.0Turbo will boost its local sales.

 

 

 

 

[Taciturn]

All I can say is Kia K5 looks better than its competitors like camry by a far mile.Maybe even more stylish than Mazda 6's nagare design.

 

But I don't think K5's handling is better than the 6

[Karu]

Got a feeling that the drive of K5 will not do justice to its look. Drove the i45 b4, even the 2.4l car feels kinda laggy...

[Spurman]

K5 beri nice looking, handsome and seems comfy too..

 

Got to test drive, go down showroom see see look look, touch touch, test test, compare against fellow camries, teanas, 145s to really see how good the product it is though..... But I do believe Korean cars represent the most brand value of late.... lower price, with not much quality issues. The fact that they outsold most japs, conti brands in US and Europe speaks volume of the brand itself

[Vooth]

Guys. I dunno about u all. But I think the interior quite ugly

 

I agree, does not match up to the exterior's styling...