poppyy Neutral Newbie July 17, 2017 Share July 17, 2017 Asking a noob question here. Is the new 2017 mazda6 euro6 compliant? Leng kee showroom no more mazda6 ,guess they had cleared the 'old' 2017(w/o euro6) and awaiting for new stocks? Cheers ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsogoodman 4th Gear July 17, 2017 Share July 17, 2017 Asking a noob question here. Is the new 2017 mazda6 euro6 compliant? Leng kee showroom no more mazda6 ,guess they had cleared the 'old' 2017(w/o euro6) and awaiting for new stocks? Cheers From what I know, all are Euro 6 complaint.... Leng Kee had a "clearance sales" 2 or 3 weeks ago and the showroom / test drive units were snapped up fast... Hmm, maybe can wait for new showroom car and another round of "clearance sales" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsogoodman 4th Gear July 17, 2017 Share July 17, 2017 From what I know, all are Euro 6 complaint.... Leng Kee had a "clearance sales" 2 or 3 weeks ago and the showroom / test drive units were snapped up fast... Hmm, maybe can wait for new showroom car and another round of "clearance sales" I was misinformed.... the clearance sales was clearing Mazda 6 with Euro 5 engines.... my SE now says price up $3k Asking a noob question here. Is the new 2017 mazda6 euro6 compliant? Leng kee showroom no more mazda6 ,guess they had cleared the 'old' 2017(w/o euro6) and awaiting for new stocks? Cheers The new ones coming in will be Euro6 compliant, and prices are adjusted upwards to reflect it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojsi 2nd Gear July 17, 2017 Share July 17, 2017 I was misinformed.... the clearance sales was clearing Mazda 6 with Euro 5 engines.... my SE now says price up $3k The new ones coming in will be Euro6 compliant, and prices are adjusted upwards to reflect it Should be all Euro6 now. I collected my Euro 6 Mazda 6 last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic July 17, 2017 Share July 17, 2017 What's the obsession with Euro 5 vs Euro 6? Does it matter to the consumer if he is registering it now vs he planning to register the car in 2018? VES is not retroactive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsogoodman 4th Gear July 17, 2017 Share July 17, 2017 What's the obsession with Euro 5 vs Euro 6? Does it matter to the consumer if he is registering it now vs he planning to register the car in 2018? VES is not retroactive. For Euro 5 engines, car dealers have to clear by Aug, it translates to better pricing. In the same breath, dealer is also probably using the same reason to charge more for new Euro 6 compliant vehicles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic July 17, 2017 Share July 17, 2017 Unless there is an engine model change, Euro 5 vs Euro 6 of same physical engine just means Mazda detuned the same engine to achieve Euro 6 standards. There is no magic potion that can give lower emission while having the same engine power output or fuel efficiency. Something's gotta give. If it is me, I rather snap up the Euro 5s at a discount for a slightly more powerful/efficient engine. For Euro 5 engines, car dealers have to clear by Aug, it translates to better pricing. In the same breath, dealer is also probably using the same reason to charge more for new Euro 6 compliant vehicles 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kykh Supercharged July 18, 2017 Share July 18, 2017 Unless there is an engine model change, Euro 5 vs Euro 6 of same physical engine just means Mazda detuned the same engine to achieve Euro 6 standards. There is no magic potion that can give lower emission while having the same engine power output or fuel efficiency. Something's gotta give. If it is me, I rather snap up the Euro 5s at a discount for a slightly more powerful/efficient engine. Until Euro 6 emission standards is adopted from 1 Sep 2017, the standard for petrol vehicles here is Euro 4, rather than Euro 5. Hence, unless specific models are already Euro 5 compliant to begin with, the trade-off is between Euro 4 and Euro 6, though I agree with your statement in general. I'll not be surprised if road tax is raised in future for petrol vehicles which are not Euro 6 compliant (given that road tax payable for diesel vehicles has been taking into consideration their emission standards), adding to the running costs and negating any initial saving for Euro 4/5 compared with Euro 6. As you said, something’s gotta give. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic July 18, 2017 Share July 18, 2017 Yes, and we work with currently available information rather than to second guess what the LTA scholars might come up with in the name of saving the Earth. Until Euro 6 emission standards is adopted from 1 Sep 2017, the standard for petrol vehicles here is Euro 4, rather than Euro 5. Hence, unless specific models are already Euro 5 compliant to begin with, the trade-off is between Euro 4 and Euro 6, though I agree with your statement in general. I'll not be surprised if road tax is raised in future for petrol vehicles which are not Euro 6 compliant (given that road tax payable for diesel vehicles has been taking into consideration their emission standards), adding to the running costs and negating any initial saving for Euro 4/5 compared with Euro 6. As you said, something’s gotta give. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
walkofwinners 4th Gear July 18, 2017 Share July 18, 2017 As a driver, I don't care Euro 4 or 5 or 6 as long as price is acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern Supercharged July 18, 2017 Share July 18, 2017 Unless there is an engine model change, Euro 5 vs Euro 6 of same physical engine just means Mazda detuned the same engine to achieve Euro 6 standards. There is no magic potion that can give lower emission while having the same engine power output or fuel efficiency. Something's gotta give. If it is me, I rather snap up the Euro 5s at a discount for a slightly more powerful/efficient engine. There's no need to detune... for petrol engines Euro 5 & 6 same emissions standards... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged July 18, 2017 Share July 18, 2017 As far as I was aware the SkyActiv engines were mostly Euro VI compliant already, it might just be an excuse to get more money out of would-be buyers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kykh Supercharged July 18, 2017 Share July 18, 2017 For Euro 5 engines, car dealers have to clear by Aug, it translates to better pricing. In the same breath, dealer is also probably using the same reason to charge more for new Euro 6 compliant vehicles Hmm, but amazingly nothing appears to have changed on their engine specifications, including carbon emission, in their latest online brochure, compared with that released since late last year when TEK started to market the 2017 model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsogoodman 4th Gear July 18, 2017 Share July 18, 2017 Hmm, but amazingly nothing appears to have changed on their engine specifications, including carbon emission, in their latest online brochure, compared with that released since late last year when TEK started to market the 2017 model.So I got smoked by my SE? he trying to justify their price increase maybe? Now that i recall, when i first met him 2 weeks ago, he told me Mazda 6 engines are Euro6 compliant. Yesterday he told me there is an increase of $3k as the earlier pricing was for Euro5 engines... hmmmm, looks like i really need to look for someone else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kykh Supercharged July 18, 2017 Share July 18, 2017 So I got smoked by my SE? he trying to justify their price increase maybe? Now that i recall, when i first met him 2 weeks ago, he told me Mazda 6 engines are Euro6 compliant. Yesterday he told me there is an increase of $3k as the earlier pricing was for Euro5 engines... hmmmm, looks like i really need to look for someone else I'm not suggesting that you've been smoked. I was informed by my SE that 2017 Mazda 6 manufactured in 2016 is not Euro 6 compliant and only newer units manufactured after certain cutoff month in 2017 have components modified in their engines to comply with Euro 6 emission standards. I'm just surprised that no change has shown up in the engine specifications including carbon emission in their latest brochure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojsi 2nd Gear July 18, 2017 Share July 18, 2017 I'm not suggesting that you've been smoked. I was informed by my SE that 2017 Mazda 6 manufactured in 2016 is not Euro 6 compliant and only newer units manufactured after certain cutoff month in 2017 have components modified in their engines to comply with Euro 6 emission standards. I'm just surprised that no change has shown up in the engine specifications including carbon emission in their latest brochure.More than a month back, SE offered $2k discount for ex-stock Euro 5 Mazda 6. Limited colours. Got a 2017 Euro 6 Mazda 6 in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin03 4th Gear July 18, 2017 Share July 18, 2017 Unless there is an engine model change, Euro 5 vs Euro 6 of same physical engine just means Mazda detuned the same engine to achieve Euro 6 standards. There is no magic potion that can give lower emission while having the same engine power output or fuel efficiency. Something's gotta give. If it is me, I rather snap up the Euro 5s at a discount for a slightly more powerful/efficient engine. Hi Bro, Does it mean the euro 5 has a better torque compared to euro 6. Looking at it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic July 19, 2017 Share July 19, 2017 Based on what others have shared, on paper no difference in power output. But the logical side of me will ask myself this question. If by improving the emmission figures such that that it can attain Euro 6 from Euro 5, something gotta change right? Unless someone tells me that Mazda already produced a Euro 6 compliant engine from the very start, just don't feel like going for the Euro 6 emission compliance certification since Euro 5 was the then defacto standard? Hi Bro, Does it mean the euro 5 has a better torque compared to euro 6. Looking at it too. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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