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i remember 1 news ,

a footballer ( black i think) get into match fixing,

 

kenna caught , go jail come out, and kenna kickout from sg.

 

he already a singapore resident ( wat colour IC  i dun know)

 

just recently only

 

MHA to strip former S-League player of Singapore citizenship for match fixing

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/mha-acts-to-strip-former-s-league-player-of-singapore-citizenship-for-match-fixing

 

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DEC 7, 2017, 11:20 AM SGT

 

SINGAPORE - A naturalised Singaporean who was part of a global match-fixing syndicate is set to have his citizenship taken away.

In a statement, the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) said the 43-year-old, whom it did not name, was served with a Notice of Proposed Deprivation of Citizenship under Article 133(1) of the Constitution on Thursday (Dec 7).

The Straits Times understands that the man is former S-League player Gaye Alassane, who was born in Mali and played for Gombak United.

He was detained without trial in 2013 under the Criminal Law (Temporary Provisions) Act.

MHA said that Alassane obtained Singapore citizenship through the Family Ties Scheme in 2003, and that there was no information to suggest he was involved in any criminal activity then.

However, Alassane became an "active and trusted member" of an international match-fixing syndicate which was created in and took root in Singapore, MHA said.

The alleged mastermind of the syndicate, Dan Tan Seet Eng, is also being detained under the Criminal Law (Temporary Provisions) Act. 

While a Singapore citizen, Alassane conspired with his syndicate members to fix football matches in various countries by corrupting officials and players, the ministry added.

Detailing Alassane's involvement, MHA said he travelled to these countries from Singapore to fix the matches.

"In addition, the individual entertained and cultivated relationships with foreign nationals in Singapore to draw them into his syndicate's match-fixing activities," MHA said.

It added that Alassane helped move bribe monies for his syndicate into Singapore. The MHA said he also remitted - and even personally couriered - these bribes out of the country to facilitate his syndicate's match-fixing activities.

Alassane's serious criminal conduct undermined not only the integrity of Singapore's financial system, but also law and order, MHA said.

"Witnesses were afraid of testifying against the individual and his syndicate members in open court for fear of reprisal," it added, highlighting the seriousness of Alassane's actions and the detrimental impact they had on public safety, peace and good order in Singapore.

The ministry said the Constitution provides for the Government to deprive any Singapore citizen by registration or naturalisation of their citizenship.

MHA has previously deprived other Singaporeans of their citizenship for committing criminal acts prejudicial to the interests of Singapore's public safety, peace and good order, said the ministry.

"Singapore citizenship comes with privileges and benefits, as well as duties and obligations. Individuals who have been granted citizenship should cherish it and not act contrary to national interests," MHA said.

"Those who undertake activities that prejudice our security or public safety, peace and good order deserve to have their citizenship status deprived."

MHA said the Home Affairs Minister decided to take away Alassane’s citizenship after considering the nature and operations of his global match-fixing syndicate, the extent of his involvement in it, the severity of his criminal activities, and the public interest.

It added that Alassane can apply for his case to be referred to a Citizenship Committee of Inquiry within 21 days. The committee will then hold an inquiry and submit a report to the Minister for Home Affairs, who will consider it before deciding whether to proceed to deprive him of his Singapore citizenship.

It noted that Alassane will be rendered stateless if deprived of his Singapore citizenship.

He will have to stay in Singapore on a Special Pass granted by the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority of Singapore, and cannot enjoy privileges accorded to Singapore citizens. In particular, he will not be allowed to apply for a Singapore passport, MHA said.

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MHA to strip former S-League player of Singapore citizenship for match fixing

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/mha-acts-to-strip-former-s-league-player-of-singapore-citizenship-for-match-fixing

 

PUBLISHED

DEC 7, 2017, 11:20 AM SGT

 

SINGAPORE - A naturalised Singaporean who was part of a global match-fixing syndicate is set to have his citizenship taken away.

In a statement, the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) said the 43-year-old, whom it did not name, was served with a Notice of Proposed Deprivation of Citizenship under Article 133(1) of the Constitution on Thursday (Dec 7).

The Straits Times understands that the man is former S-League player Gaye Alassane, who was born in Mali and played for Gombak United.

He was detained without trial in 2013 under the Criminal Law (Temporary Provisions) Act.

MHA said that Alassane obtained Singapore citizenship through the Family Ties Scheme in 2003, and that there was no information to suggest he was involved in any criminal activity then.

However, Alassane became an "active and trusted member" of an international match-fixing syndicate which was created in and took root in Singapore, MHA said.

The alleged mastermind of the syndicate, Dan Tan Seet Eng, is also being detained under the Criminal Law (Temporary Provisions) Act. 

While a Singapore citizen, Alassane conspired with his syndicate members to fix football matches in various countries by corrupting officials and players, the ministry added.

Detailing Alassane's involvement, MHA said he travelled to these countries from Singapore to fix the matches.

"In addition, the individual entertained and cultivated relationships with foreign nationals in Singapore to draw them into his syndicate's match-fixing activities," MHA said.

It added that Alassane helped move bribe monies for his syndicate into Singapore. The MHA said he also remitted - and even personally couriered - these bribes out of the country to facilitate his syndicate's match-fixing activities.

Alassane's serious criminal conduct undermined not only the integrity of Singapore's financial system, but also law and order, MHA said.

"Witnesses were afraid of testifying against the individual and his syndicate members in open court for fear of reprisal," it added, highlighting the seriousness of Alassane's actions and the detrimental impact they had on public safety, peace and good order in Singapore.

The ministry said the Constitution provides for the Government to deprive any Singapore citizen by registration or naturalisation of their citizenship.

MHA has previously deprived other Singaporeans of their citizenship for committing criminal acts prejudicial to the interests of Singapore's public safety, peace and good order, said the ministry.

"Singapore citizenship comes with privileges and benefits, as well as duties and obligations. Individuals who have been granted citizenship should cherish it and not act contrary to national interests," MHA said.

"Those who undertake activities that prejudice our security or public safety, peace and good order deserve to have their citizenship status deprived."

MHA said the Home Affairs Minister decided to take away Alassane’s citizenship after considering the nature and operations of his global match-fixing syndicate, the extent of his involvement in it, the severity of his criminal activities, and the public interest.

It added that Alassane can apply for his case to be referred to a Citizenship Committee of Inquiry within 21 days. The committee will then hold an inquiry and submit a report to the Minister for Home Affairs, who will consider it before deciding whether to proceed to deprive him of his Singapore citizenship.

It noted that Alassane will be rendered stateless if deprived of his Singapore citizenship.

He will have to stay in Singapore on a Special Pass granted by the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority of Singapore, and cannot enjoy privileges accorded to Singapore citizens. In particular, he will not be allowed to apply for a Singapore passport, MHA said.

 

ya this 1. i dun understand.

 

naturalised singaporean mean wat?? pink ic already?

 

if he no longer is the citizen of any other country. 

 

send back where??

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ya this 1. i dun understand.

 

naturalised singaporean mean wat?? pink ic already?

 

if he no longer is the citizen of any other country. 

 

send back where??

 

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It noted that Alassane will be rendered stateless if deprived of his Singapore citizenship.

He will have to stay in Singapore on a Special Pass granted by the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority of Singapore, and cannot enjoy privileges accorded to Singapore citizens.

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ya this 1. i dun understand.

 

naturalised singaporean mean wat?? pink ic already?

 

if he no longer is the citizen of any other country. 

 

send back where??

The chance he has now is to revert his citizenship of his country of birth.

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ya this 1. i dun understand.

 

naturalised singaporean mean wat?? pink ic already?

 

if he no longer is the citizen of any other country.

 

send back where??

his pink ic is going to be taken back...

 

he can try to go back to his country of birth Mali...

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his pink ic is going to be taken back...

 

he can try to go back to his country of birth Mali...

But wat if he is no longer a citizen of his country of birth.

And that country reject him?

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But wat if he is no longer a citizen of his country of birth.

And that country reject him?ð

for him to be SG citizen, he would have renounced his Malian citizenship. SG does not allow dual citizenship iirc.

 

if Mali rejects him then become like stateless refugee seeking asylum... like the Rohingya...

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for him to be SG citizen, he would have renounced his Malian citizenship. SG does not allow dual citizenship iirc.

 

if Mali rejects him then become like stateless refugee seeking asylum... like the Rohingya...

Anw i had no ideal pink ic can be taken back.

 

Not i pity him.

But its not the greatest crime committed in sg. Yet there are many that get punish for less.

Really need to take a look how we give pink ic. Like suka suka give

Suka suka take back.

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ya this 1. i dun understand.

 

naturalised singaporean mean wat?? pink ic already?

 

if he no longer is the citizen of any other country.

 

send back where??

This type have to call Earthling already.

Yah WHY?????

No treaty signed?
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Give me a good reason why this fella was not deported back in 2012 when he was sentenced to house trespass.

 

Now molest people.

 

Lets see if he gets deported or still allowed to stay in Singapore after serving jail sentence

All these are Bollywood fault.

 

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/indian-woman-disfigures-lover-to-pass-him-off-as-murdered-husband-plan-busted-after-he

 

Indian woman disfigures lover to pass him off as dead husband; plan busted after he refused to have mutton soup

 

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According to Indian digital newspaper The News Minute, Swathi also confessed that she was inspired by a 2014 Telugu movie Yevadu. The film is about an injured young man who was given the face of his plastic surgeon's dead son.

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Anw i had no ideal pink ic can be taken back.

 

Not i pity him.

But its not the greatest crime committed in sg. Yet there are many that get punish for less.

Really need to take a look how we give pink ic. Like suka suka give

Suka suka take back.

yes pink IC can be taken back for special reasons.

 

once upon a time SG criteria for citizenship was more relaxed, but now even PR applications for PME level can be rejected numerous times.

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Real life actually is local brain drain is caused by the govt themselves.

When the young see no incentives to fulfill their dreams and "hunger", why do they want to stay here, or why will they want to be hungry?

The average urban dwellers (Singapore) just want a job (keeps up with rising costs of living), a car (Japanese) , a house (HDB) and a family (kid with elderly parents) , simple as that. Anything more than that is luxury and anything less is struggling.

If the country you govern can't even give such simple needs to begin with, who the heck are you to label people and the young who migrated as quitters?

I'm sure there are Singaporeans who don't mind getting hungry. But what's the point of being hungry when the smaller and smaller HDB is not even yours, cars getting harder to get, and jobs despite being competition with FTs can't pay enough to match the increasing costs of living?

The truth is, last time many years ago when singapore was not a first world economy, it was tough for people to buy a flat, a car and whatever also. The difference now is that people are demanding to achieve these real fast and so it looks like life is tougher than the past. If only you know how the last few generation struggle for basics, will you know that life is so much more comfortable for the current generation. I mix a lot with the younger generation of today and I can tell you, the opportunities for achieving the basic housing and car and simple luxuries is so much better than before. In many countries young people are struggling to get jobs and basic housing. Here in singapore a young couple work a few years can use cpf to buy a bto already, even a ec. I have seen many such cases because I train and keep in contact with them. Everybody is responsible for their own success, the government can only provide the opportunity through an environment and meritocracy system. The rest is up to you, don't everything also blame the government,

 

To give an example, I have a graduate who was indifferent in his study, and years after graduates he was still job hopping and has no career progression. Yet another of his classmate, worked in a local bank for the same number of years , with only a diploma to his name he has risen through the ranks and is doing very well, staying in condo and earning very well at mid thirties.

 

I ever took a taxi and the driver commented that the single most important thing and foresight the government has done was to attract foreign investment and create jobs. And the government has kept the economy going to sustain it. All these with little to no natural resources of whatever, not even land or human resources.

 

There are many people doing well and others not, it is always down to the individual, and if one don't make it, should look at himself, and not the government and the sky. Not even god will make everyone rich.

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The truth is, last time many years ago when singapore was not a first world economy, it was tough for people to buy a flat, a car and whatever also. The difference now is that people are demanding to achieve these real fast and so it looks like life is tougher than the past. If only you know how the last few generation struggle for basics, will you know that life is so much more comfortable for the current generation. I mix a lot with the younger generation of today and I can tell you, the opportunities for achieving the basic housing and car and simple luxuries is so much better than before. In many countries young people are struggling to get jobs and basic housing. Here in singapore a young couple work a few years can use cpf to buy a bto already, even a ec. I have seen many such cases because I train and keep in contact with them. Everybody is responsible for their own success, the government can only provide the opportunity through an environment and meritocracy system. The rest is up to you, don't everything also blame the government,

 

To give an example, I have a graduate who was indifferent in his study, and years after graduates he was still job hopping and has no career progression. Yet another of his classmate, worked in a local bank for the same number of years , with only a diploma to his name he has risen through the ranks and is doing very well, staying in condo and earning very well at mid thirties.

 

I ever took a taxi and the driver commented that the single most important thing and foresight the government has done was to attract foreign investment and create jobs. And the government has kept the economy going to sustain it. All these with little to no natural resources of whatever, not even land or human resources.

 

There are many people doing well and others not, it is always down to the individual, and if one don't make it, should look at himself, and not the government and the sky. Not even god will make everyone rich.

I do agree that the old generations of the govt has indeed build up the success of this country due to their past policies. However the situation in the past is so much different from now. How many people we have now in the country in the past and how many we have now? The competition is so competitive in this small market now that if one do not work hard and smart to take on opportunities, they will forever be behind the rat race. Higher education and NS are the issues too. People worked hard over the years in studies and get the high certifications in hope to quickly pay off their student loans with better pays and achieve the success they hoped for their sacrifices in the years of studies to the degree graduations. Not to mention, NS and reservist have already delayed the process of the younger people to climb the corporate ladders of what other younger people can do much earlier in other countries. 

The increasing population is causing the diminishing effects on success for each person's responsibility to achieve more and better, since standards of such is diminishing at the fast pace of such intense competition. In the past, there is no need for a degree to succeed in the career path. A diploma, one can be a manager after working for years with the company. Now people have to distinguish themselves in the market despite having a degree. What was the pace of rat race back then? I observe this diminishing effect over the years as I grew up and it is a real problem to the new generations.

 

I agree that people should not take the blame of everything to the govt, however, before asking why people are blaming at many things, is the current govt controlling and interfering more and more things which the people themselves can/should take control?

Likewise again, while looking at the issue of the people blaming everything at the govt, the govt itself, the current generation, has not taken the lead to take responsibility of their failed policies and blaming everything but themselves too. Have they shown themselves the meritocracy that the old guards have believed in? Didn't the current govt lead by bad example as well for wanting to achieving things fast by adding astronomical figures in their already high salaries while not even realizing their real results even less than 5 years after taking over the second generation govt? Haven't these people even looked at how the old guards build the country without asking for exceptional rewards despite 25 years of serving since independence? Should these people also take a look at themselves in the mid 2000s of what their own achievements to the country (minus the contributions from the old guards) before asking for more rewards for themselves? As a politician, their job is serving the people, not taxing more from the people and adding their burden, just to further enrich their salaries out of the sector benchmarks. That's not politics already.

Shouldn't they look at themselves what they really want (corporate or politics) and what they really supposed to do if they choose politics? If they choose politics as their career, then why blame the salary is low compared to corporate CEOs, in which theirs is already very high compared to leaders of bigger countries and bigger responsibilities around the world? If they are to blame on things like salary not enough, then why choose politics in the first place? Isn't this leading by bad example too?

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Most hotels, especially those 5-star ones are all 'talented' FT [:p] Maybe they speak the same language but today are we focusing on Americans and Europeans market? Maybe again the Asian's imitation Europeans still prefer such talents. :blink: 

 

So, somebody in MOM should always be on the watch out when approving work permit or employment permit. when the head is FT, the people they employed will generally be FT from the same place. How to regulate this, surely no need to teach right.

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Most hotels, especially those 5-star ones are all 'talented' FT [:p] Maybe they speak the same language but today are we focusing on Americans and Europeans market? Maybe again the Asian's imitation Europeans still prefer such talents. :blink:

 

So, somebody in MOM should always be on the watch out when approving work permit or employment permit. when the head is FT, the people they employed will generally be FT from the same place. How to regulate this, surely no need to teach right.

local companies have a limit ratio of locals:FT. so for a set no. of locals, there is a max no. of FTs that they can hire.

 

some industries are FT intensive by nature, or by current trend.

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local companies have a limit ratio of locals:FT. so for a set no. of locals, there is a max no. of FTs that they can hire.

 

some industries are FT intensive by nature, or by current trend.

 

So why only local companies have limit ratio, how about MNC? I agree if we are looking at security, cleaners, shipyard, construction etc, we need foreign labour. FT is something we need to focus and who is doing this? i know some organization has less than 30% locals and if you look at their staff, you know if they belong to the word 'Talent'. :a-confused: then Singaporean is really non talented or in great shortage, all well employed :a-SOS:

 

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I do agree that the old generations of the govt has indeed build up the success of this country due to their past policies. However the situation in the past is so much different from now. How many people we have now in the country in the past and how many we have now? The competition is so competitive in this small market now that if one do not work hard and smart to take on opportunities, they will forever be behind the rat race. Higher education and NS are the issues too. People worked hard over the years in studies and get the high certifications in hope to quickly pay off their student loans with better pays and achieve the success they hoped for their sacrifices in the years of studies to the degree graduations. Not to mention, NS and reservist have already delayed the process of the younger people to climb the corporate ladders of what other younger people can do much earlier in other countries.

The increasing population is causing the diminishing effects on success for each person's responsibility to achieve more and better, since standards of such is diminishing at the fast pace of such intense competition. In the past, there is no need for a degree to succeed in the career path. A diploma, one can be a manager after working for years with the company. Now people have to distinguish themselves in the market despite having a degree. What was the pace of rat race back then? I observe this diminishing effect over the years as I grew up and it is a real problem to the new generations.

 

I agree that people should not take the blame of everything to the govt, however, before asking why people are blaming at many things, is the current govt controlling and interfering more and more things which the people themselves can/should take control?

Likewise again, while looking at the issue of the people blaming everything at the govt, the govt itself, the current generation, has not taken the lead to take responsibility of their failed policies and blaming everything but themselves too. Have they shown themselves the meritocracy that the old guards have believed in? Didn't the current govt lead by bad example as well for wanting to achieving things fast by adding astronomical figures in their already high salaries while not even realizing their real results even less than 5 years after taking over the second generation govt? Haven't these people even looked at how the old guards build the country without asking for exceptional rewards despite 25 years of serving since independence? Should these people also take a look at themselves in the mid 2000s of what their own achievements to the country (minus the contributions from the old guards) before asking for more rewards for themselves? As a politician, their job is serving the people, not taxing more from the people and adding their burden, just to further enrich their salaries out of the sector benchmarks. That's not politics already.

Shouldn't they look at themselves what they really want (corporate or politics) and what they really supposed to do if they choose politics? If they choose politics as their career, then why blame the salary is low compared to corporate CEOs, in which theirs is already very high compared to leaders of bigger countries and bigger responsibilities around the world? If they are to blame on things like salary not enough, then why choose politics in the first place? Isn't this leading by bad example too?

I guarantee vote for you next GE..that is you got gumption to stand and be counted..
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