Persistent Lower Back Pain

[Adrianli]

12 hours ago, Atrecord said:

Sigh... my turn to have lower back pain.

Started off with lower back, then went xray, came back normal and doc just gave muscle relaxant and painkillers. When it didn't get better, and pain even radiated to my left leg, doc referred me to ortho. 

when i saw the ortho, pain at lower back was not so bad, but at certain angle the leg would feel the pain. Arranged for MRI, but still 2-3 wk away.

ortho assessed and tested my toes and leg strength + reflex, and said it's not v bad, likely a torn disc and got chance might recover in 3 mth. 

in the meantime, just tell me rest more and dun carry heavy things. Also said that prolonged sitting (which i might have been doing ever since started WFH) isn't good...

The pain at my left buttock and leg suddenly got worse a few days ago, and was very painful for one day. Sit, stood both also pain... then these 2 days slightly better, but certain angles, will feel the sharp pull/pain at the left buttock and leg. Last night choked on my drinks and coughed a few times, and the pain was so intense when coughing...

Any experienced guys here got any advice how to get it to heal/recover, and quickly if possible?

thanks...

 

Try some stretching exercises or swimming.

Read : https://www.healthxchange.sg/bones-joints/back-spine/low-back-pain-causes-symptoms-treatment

https://www.healthxchange.sg/bones-joints/back-spine/what-you-know-about-back-pain

https://www.healthxchange.sg/bones-joints/back-spine/back-pain-symptoms-diagnosis-treatment

https://www.healthxchange.sg/news/cgh-physiotherapist-on-preventing-back-and-neck-pain

 

Try these stretching exercises that were taught to me by the physiotherapist in SGH too :

 

 

[inlinesix]

Join me for stretching YOGA

https://www.jyanyoga.com/

😂

I don't have back problem

[Atonchia]

4 hours ago, Kklee said:

IMHO.IME. 
If that is the case,  you probably will need to to exercise to elongate the spine to relax it.
I would say that some physio exercises are for the purpose to build muscles which will eventually support the body structure. 
However,  building the muscles to do that will take time.  

Also,  how the feet supports the mid to upper body is important as well.
Symptoms could be lower body joints pain like knee or ankle.
Other symptoms also includes corns and calluses on the foot/feet. 
Suitable insoles or shoes would help to resolve those issue which will help to lessen or eliminate back pain.

Disclaimer - IMHO and IME.  The risk is yours. 

Carrying children wasn't a daily basis... It was only during outings with longer walking distance they would wanted to be carried. 

Now my kids can't carry anymore. 

Those back pain from carrying child felt more like muscle ache. 

Agree on stretching exercise. 

The effect is better than swimming.

[Kklee]

1 hour ago, Atonchia said:

Carrying children wasn't a daily basis... It was only during outings with longer walking distance they would wanted to be carried. 

Now my kids can't carry anymore. 

Those back pain from carrying child felt more like muscle ache. 

Agree on stretching exercise. 

The effect is better than swimming.

IMHO. IME. 
Pre and post pain could be different.
I believe that  that a minor "structural" damage could have occurred.

Check your PM. 😎
 

[Ckll]

Felt compelled to contribute to what I know, seeing so many are in the same shoes.

Had slipped disc (L3/L4) and operated in 2001. Recovered since but about 10 years ago started to have back-pain issues again.

The back would get into spasm when I'm in certain position. Sometimes sneezing would trigger it. Sometimes woke up in the morning, the whole body was slanted to one side. There's soreness in the left bum area and slight numbness in the left leg. Sometimes soreness in the lower back area itself. Very depressing. Arcoxia, Sunitron, Anarex, Diclofenac .. these are usual stuff I'd pack in my bag.

Did MRI in 2018 and ortho said the spine has degenerated and pinching the nerves. Suggested bone fusion then. I didn't want to. I had like 2 episodes per year leading up to 2018.

Things started to get worse in late 2019, becoming a daily struggle. Did MRI in 2020 and visited 3 orthopedics to seek their opinion. All said spine has degenerated in general and the gap between the discs has narrowed at L4/L5. All suggested bone fusion.

I'm keen to go for it (surgery) but my wife not that keen. She's hoping that I'd do other conservative treatments to see if that helps. 

So, I've been taking supplements and doing a lot of stretching and trying to strengthen my core muscles. I've also tried bringing my weight down to help put less strain on the back (but that didn't seem to help much). My friend suggested a doctor who's injecting collagen to the sites and doing PRP to help with natural restoration of collagen. I've started doing that since late last year. Not cheap, $900 per session. But in the great scheme of things, it's still cheaper than surgery. It has helped somewhat, but not eliminated the issue altogether. I go back to him once every 3 months.

I have a buddy who had torn disc instead. He managed to fix that with some laser treatment (he couldn't describe the procedure well). He recommended his ortho (one of the 3 that I visited last year) but mine is not the same issue. My buddy recovered well and even went to climb Mt Kinabalu last year. 

 

[Somewhat1975]

There are many reasons for lower back pain. If your lower pain is related to weak core muscle and muscle spasm due to overuse (most properly due to wrong posture and long sitting hours every day), the videos below are good for you

For beginner

 

For advanced level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BOTvaRaDjI

 

 

 

 

 

[Ender]

Core and posterior chain muscle group strengthening  is key. 

[Ckll]

19 minutes ago, Ender said:

Core and posterior chain muscle group strengthening  is key. 

Yes, like pitching a tent. Imagine the spine is the center pole. The core and back muscles need to be strong like taut ropes supporting the tent upright. If any of the ropes is loose, it will collapse. 

I rem my physio used to tell me that ppl generally has stronger back muscles than core. So, core muscles need to be developed mindfully.

[BanCoe]

7 hours ago, inlinesix said:

Join me for stretching YOGA

https://www.jyanyoga.com/

😂

I don't have back problem

Likely your front got problem/s 🤣🤣

[Jtb]

back body bone setting/resetting is impt as it pushes and hit the nerves that causes the pain. Heavy upper body that is supported by our legs is like carrying our body wherever we go.

painkiller is tricking our brain to remove the pain which is no good for long term. Find out the cause will help to rebuild our body is a solution to continue our daily lives. This also put our knees in pain so give yourself a good pair of shoes to wear in order to minimize the pounding against the knees while walking. This may help to make lives happier only if you are not in pain.

solar magnetic pad is a warm heat relief for healing pain, hanging on to a chin up bar everyday is also a good relief with a strong sunshine for 30mins, sleeping on a soft mattress may also be the culprit for a back pain together with the pillow that you are sleeping where your neck is hanging in the air during the long sleep! So beware and investigate to change your life style.

[Jtb]

19 hours ago, Atrecord said:

Sigh... my turn to have lower back pain.

Started off with lower back, then went xray, came back normal and doc just gave muscle relaxant and painkillers. When it didn't get better, and pain even radiated to my left leg, doc referred me to ortho. 

when i saw the ortho, pain at lower back was not so bad, but at certain angle the leg would feel the pain. Arranged for MRI, but still 2-3 wk away.

ortho assessed and tested my toes and leg strength + reflex, and said it's not v bad, likely a torn disc and got chance might recover in 3 mth. 

in the meantime, just tell me rest more and dun carry heavy things. Also said that prolonged sitting (which i might have been doing ever since started WFH) isn't good...

The pain at my left buttock and leg suddenly got worse a few days ago, and was very painful for one day. Sit, stood both also pain... then these 2 days slightly better, but certain angles, will feel the sharp pull/pain at the left buttock and leg. Last night choked on my drinks and coughed a few times, and the pain was so intense when coughing...

Any experienced guys here got any advice how to get it to heal/recover, and quickly if possible?

thanks...

no slip disc?

[Datsun366]

Sometimes lower back pain may be due to torn or injured  strands of tendons anchoring the trapezius to the posterior illium...or got forbid fracture minute or hairline at the anchoring region.

Dont go spine all the time, can be elsewhere injured.

[Adrianli]

9 minutes ago, Datsun366 said:

Sometimes lower back pain may be due to torn or injured  strands of tendons anchoring the trapezius to the posterior illium...or got forbid fracture minute or hairline at the anchoring region.

Dont go spine all the time, can be elsewhere injured.

I begin to suspect you are medically trained too. Not your first reply on medical opinions.

[Windwaver]

54 minutes ago, Datsun366 said:

Sometimes lower back pain may be due to torn or injured  strands of tendons anchoring the trapezius to the posterior illium...or got forbid fracture minute or hairline at the anchoring region.

Dont go spine all the time, can be elsewhere injured.

All these cannot be seen by MRI, CT or Xray?

 

[BoneStock]

On 3/10/2021 at 9:19 PM, Atrecord said:

Sigh... my turn to have lower back pain.

Started off with lower back, then went xray, came back normal and doc just gave muscle relaxant and painkillers. When it didn't get better, and pain even radiated to my left leg, doc referred me to ortho. 

when i saw the ortho, pain at lower back was not so bad, but at certain angle the leg would feel the pain. Arranged for MRI, but still 2-3 wk away.

ortho assessed and tested my toes and leg strength + reflex, and said it's not v bad, likely a torn disc and got chance might recover in 3 mth. 

in the meantime, just tell me rest more and dun carry heavy things. Also said that prolonged sitting (which i might have been doing ever since started WFH) isn't good...

The pain at my left buttock and leg suddenly got worse a few days ago, and was very painful for one day. Sit, stood both also pain... then these 2 days slightly better, but certain angles, will feel the sharp pull/pain at the left buttock and leg. Last night choked on my drinks and coughed a few times, and the pain was so intense when coughing...

Any experienced guys here got any advice how to get it to heal/recover, and quickly if possible?

thanks...

I started to have lower back pains 10 years ago.  Like you, I went to see specialist and was given painkiller and muscle relaxant only.  Doc said it was part of natural aging and it happens to everyone.  Just that some experience pain and some lucky ones don't.  

When the pain was very serious, it woke me up accurately at 2-3am everyday, almost like alarm clock.  It was so painful on a few occasions that I needed help getting out of bed.  I will then sit in my living room and couldn't go back to bed as I feared the pain would come back.

The advice from the doc is to do exercises that would strengthen my back muscles, such that our body reduces the reliance on our spine.  I tried this and it really helped....a lot.  Over the years, I tried many forms of static exercises like superman stretch, leg lifts, etc...but eventually I just do the normal warm up exercises that we did back in army....back to basics I guess.

Hope this is helpful.

[Windwaver]

My spine and chest pain was quite different.

MRI, CT, Xray all found nothing. Blood tests, gene test, all other tests found nothing also.

Go physio do exercise end up triggering the pain more.

So now take all sorts of pain killers and hopefully can still see my CPF 

[mersaylee]

21 hours ago, Adrianli said:

I begin to suspect you are medically trained too. Not your first reply on medical opinions.

I tink so too...i needed to word search several times 😅

[Kengheng450]

4 hours ago, Windwaver said:

My spine and chest pain was quite different.

MRI, CT, Xray all found nothing. Blood tests, gene test, all other tests found nothing also.

Go physio do exercise end up triggering the pain more.

So now take all sorts of pain killers and hopefully can still see my CPF 

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