Joseph22 Turbocharged September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 porker is right, you ARE a half baked dumbfark. Use a bit of commen sense. As long as they find a way to fast shut down LTE when data transfer is done. then energy spend will be minise. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 Use a bit of commen sense. As long as they find a way to fast shut down LTE when data transfer is done. then energy spend will be minise. you better learn to shut your gap and not start your trolling nonsense as I am very tempted to put you under house arrest. Every thread you go, you are starting your nonsense again! :angry: :angry: :angry: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acemundo Supercharged September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 Saw the new on Yahoo this morning. Gosh, i thought the photo is a 4s. Other than the upgraded hardware (nothing spectacular) and some new features which i don't think is useful at all. Apple gonna think hard to revolutionize their current gadgets or developing new ones in order to stay as the market leader. What they are doing now is the same as other manufactures; upgrading and improving. If they get too comfortable, they gonna be another Nokia soon. hehe they can sue all their competitors in order to stay ahead of the race. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratovarius Turbocharged September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 the way things look. Andriod without Apple to innovate, wonder if they can be any good. if not, the mobile world will be paving the way for the come back of Nokia and windows Phone. Yup. No doubt Android did take reference of iOS for their interface. Now, Android is catching up and i bet some will say it is better than iOS. But that's the hard truth especially in the consumer electronics market. One can't expect to develop a new technology and expect to stay in as the market leader forever. It's always a hit and run thing. Nokia really need to do a premium phone with a well marketed strategy be to back in the playing field of smartphones. Somehow i always felt that their marketing strategy is always half hearted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 you better learn to shut your gap and not start your trolling nonsense as I am very tempted to put you under house arrest. Every thread you go, you are starting your nonsense again! :angry: :angry: :angry: i dont see my comment as trolling, in any case, i ask a question and get an insult. if you think by asking a question and giving a suggestion in a discussion is consider a trolling. then i have nothing to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sp4wn Turbocharged September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 Use a bit of commen sense. As long as they find a way to fast shut down LTE when data transfer is done. then energy spend will be minise. erm, normally most devices don't disconnect their data transmission, otherwise other services like push, imessage etc wont work ... so there's no real way to do what you suggest. the device may be able to switch frm LTE to 3G (or 2G) after loading an exceptionally large page, but that will require the OS to support it bro. (ie detect large amounts of data, do the switch and switch back) but that will probably drain more battery also to hop connections >< Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happily1986 5th Gear September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 can you answer directly?? or if there are other function then say it out. go read up about how radio works. a handphone running on GPRS, 3G, HSDPA and LTE is essentially still a radio. to make use of radiowaves as a data medium, you need modulation standards. Modulated radiowave is analogous to analogue electric signals in electrical cabling and pulsed light signals in fibre cables. The way the signal is modulated via LTE now, it is just very energy consuming. Unless one can devise a more efficient way to package data signals ie modulation standard, LTE is going to sap the battery. Fyi, Edge which is not used in Singapore is a classic example of modifying modulation though in this case was to achieve higher data bandwidth, not to reduce energy consumption. In this case, the data frequency used is GPRS or 2G which meant that data carriers got to upgrade their data standards to EDGE by simply modifying their pre existing 2G cell towers instead of having to construct new ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 i dont see my comment as trolling, in any case, i ask a question and get an insult. if you think by asking a question and giving a suggestion in a discussion is consider a trolling. then i have nothing to say. am not gonna bother to exchange with your replies in some of the other threads really show otherwise.... my last post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 Yup. No doubt Android did take reference of iOS for their interface. Now, Android is catching up and i bet some will say it is better than iOS. But that's the hard truth especially in the consumer electronics market. One can't expect to develop a new technology and expect to stay in as the market leader forever. It's always a hit and run thing. Nokia really need to do a premium phone with a well marketed strategy be to back in the playing field of smartphones. Somehow i always felt that their marketing strategy is always half hearted. imo, nokia premium, isnt premium enough.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratovarius Turbocharged September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 i can see my diabolic plan to earn some small marnie by selling iphone 5 to apple fanboy is going up in smoke I have the same plans too. Gonna see what is the market value of the phone first for the next couple of months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 go read up about how radio works. a handphone running on GPRS, 3G, HSDPA and LTE is essentially still a radio. to make use of radiowaves as a data medium, you need modulation standards. Modulated radiowave is analogous to analogue electric signals in electrical cabling and pulsed light signals in fibre cables. The way the signal is modulated via LTE now, it is just very energy consuming. Unless one can devise a more efficient way to package data signals ie modulation standard, LTE is going to sap the battery. Fyi, Edge which is not used in Singapore is a classic example of modifying modulation though in this case was to achieve higher data bandwidth, not to reduce energy consumption. In this case, the data frequency used is GPRS or 2G which meant that data carriers got to upgrade their data standards to EDGE by simply modifying their pre existing 2G cell towers instead of having to construct new ones. i was actually thinking of toggling between 3G and LTE depending on usage. if it is possible. i am not an expert, that is why i mention in my earlier post, Journalist are suggesting that apple next big move is heading towards effective energy management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 I have the same plans too. Gonna see what is the market value of the phone first for the next couple of months. telco here haven't announce any plan with iphone yet?? :huh: will just renew first and see any buyer [laugh] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 telco here haven't announce any plan with iphone yet?? will just renew first and see any buyer u gotta get nano sim if use Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 am not gonna bother to exchange with your replies in some of the other threads really show otherwise.... my last post i will greatly appreciate if you point to me those post. so at least i can reflect and see what went wrong. it's easy to put people under house arrest or yellow card people. but at least let us know where the problem is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happily1986 5th Gear September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 Use a bit of commen sense. As long as they find a way to fast shut down LTE when data transfer is done. then energy spend will be minise. Thats when you are wrong on both counts. 1. Nokia already came up with the innovation to rectify this issue and even better, reduce energy consumption which is otherwise used due to the phone constantly shuttling back and forth between active and idle data states. This innovation is Mobile Dormancy and this feature has already been incorporated in iOS and Android. Basically what happens is your phone by convention should shuttle between idle and active states depending on whether data is streaming in/out or not. This constant shuttling is very inefficient so what Mobile Dormancy does is to situate your phone in a semi idle cum active state i.e. dormant state so you are in middle ground. More responsive and less energy penalties to be had. Needless to say, certain telcos don't support it as this is a feature that has to be supported by the networking equipment. Fyi, Singtel supports MD, M1 doesn't and i don't care about Starhub. 2. The major bulk of energy consumption to be racked is WHEN data transmission is happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratovarius Turbocharged September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 The 4" iPod Touch looks good Any detail info for the new ipod touch particularly the size of storage? I'm still looking for a replacement for my ipod classic. Getting bored of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windchoco 1st Gear September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 i dont see my comment as trolling, in any case, i ask a question and get an insult. if you think by asking a question and giving a suggestion in a discussion is consider a trolling. then i have nothing to say. U will overtake the mod after 15 more posts.. Quantity or Quality? :p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph22 Turbocharged September 13, 2012 Share September 13, 2012 telco here haven't announce any plan with iphone yet?? :huh: will just renew first and see any buyer [laugh] only know the release date is 21 Sept 2012. base on Sintel website. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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