Unfazed 6th Gear February 27 Share February 27 On 2/26/2026 at 9:28 PM, steveting99 said: Agree with you that Toyota doesn't have anything attractive model on offer. However 7,466 Singaporeans did find Toyota attractive enough to part with their hard earned money and buy a new Toyota last year (2025). Another 671 Singaporeans also found something attractive in Toyota last month (Jan-2026). So there's lots of Singaporeans who love their Toyotas and willing to open their wallets to keep Toyota at No.2 position on the podium. Good know that most Singaporeans are open minded and willing to give another brand such as BYD a try. They not stupid - once they discover the value for money on offer in terms of features, tech and quality. Are all 7,466 under private registration? If not, these stats won’t reveal the full picture. Borneo has nothing to fear though as their sales is partly backed by PHV. Knowing how many percent of private ownership makes up would be useful info. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic February 27 Share February 27 On 2/27/2026 at 11:01 AM, Unfazed said: Are all 7,466 under private registration? If not, these stats won’t reveal the full picture. Borneo has nothing to fear though as their sales is partly backed by PHV. Knowing how many percent of private ownership makes up would be useful info. Useful for? PI sells about 2.4k Toyota of which 1.9k are MPV. My guess is PHV probably 1.5k out of 7.5k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_simon 4th Gear February 27 Share February 27 On 2/26/2026 at 2:28 PM, steveting99 said: Good know that most Singaporeans are open minded and willing to give another brand such as BYD a try. They not stupid - once they discover the value for money on offer in terms of features, tech and quality. My observation is most SGreans are not open minded...until they have taken a ride brands which they love to "hate"..😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_simon 4th Gear February 27 Share February 27 On 2/27/2026 at 3:53 AM, Heartlander said: Their bZ4X is nicely spec (7.4sec century sprint), very spacious, and well priced, and have alot of buttons and knobs on the dashboard. Even 22kW ac charging some more. Would have gotten this over Tesla and other China EVs if I am in the market for one that is around $200k. Should have no problem winning back some diehard Toyota fans. Sad thing is Toyota has little to zero luck when comes to EV including the flagship bZ4X having suffered a very public recall due to faulty rims... https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/opinion-features/columns/wheels-have-come-electric-vehicles 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveting99 3rd Gear February 27 Share February 27 (edited) On 2/27/2026 at 11:24 AM, simon_simon said: Sad thing is Toyota has little to zero luck when comes to EV including the flagship bZ4X having suffered a very public recall due to faulty rims... https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/opinion-features/columns/wheels-have-come-electric-vehicles There's an on going class action law suit against Toyota (as well as Subaru) on premature failure of the 12V auxiliary battery here: https://www.carscoops.com/2025/10/subaru-and-toyota-sued-as-their-evs-keep-dying/ Do note that the number in the class action law suit is low: currently its 10. Edited February 27 by steveting99 additional text Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartlander Turbocharged February 27 Share February 27 On 2/27/2026 at 11:24 AM, simon_simon said: Sad thing is Toyota has little to zero luck when comes to EV including the flagship bZ4X having suffered a very public recall due to faulty rims... https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/opinion-features/columns/wheels-have-come-electric-vehicles Did you notice the date when the above was released? Published Thu, Jun 30, 2022 · 11:19 AM Definitely resolved after more than 3.5 years later. Japanese car makers generally got more conscience than the rest of the world. If it is from China makers then I will still worry. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Hypersonic February 27 Share February 27 On 2/27/2026 at 10:43 AM, 13177 said: It is she don’t like China made cars? Or she really only don’t like BYD? Maybe associating China cars with China Xiao Long Ni. Doesn't want her hubby to have anything to do with them. I mean the cars. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_simon 4th Gear February 27 Share February 27 On 2/27/2026 at 5:15 AM, steveting99 said: There's an on going class action law suit against Toyota (as well as Subaru) on premature failure of the 12V auxiliary battery here: https://www.carscoops.com/2025/10/subaru-and-toyota-sued-as-their-evs-keep-dying/ Do note that the number in the class action law suit is low: currently its 10. This is an interesting case not involving the EV's CATL high-voltage battery but rather the lithium Ion Panasonic.low voltage 12V. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic February 27 Share February 27 On 2/27/2026 at 12:19 PM, Heartlander said: Did you notice the date when the above was released? Published Thu, Jun 30, 2022 · 11:19 AM Definitely resolved after more than 3.5 years later. Japanese car makers generally got more conscience than the rest of the world. If it is from China makers then I will still worry. https://www.autospies.com/news/Class-Action-Lawsuit-Targets-Toyota-And-Subaru-Over-Failing-EV-Batteries-127077/?utm_source=chatgpt.com Doesn’t seem resolved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic February 27 Share February 27 On 2/27/2026 at 10:54 AM, Wind30 said: Anything from china dun like…. I hope I didn’t misunderstand to mean China Brand. Tesla also MIC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_simon 4th Gear February 27 Share February 27 On 2/27/2026 at 5:19 AM, Heartlander said: Did you notice the date when the above was released? Published Thu, Jun 30, 2022 · 11:19 AM Definitely resolved after more than 3.5 years later. Japanese car makers generally got more conscience than the rest of the world. If it is from China makers then I will still worry. For those more informed about Japan EV development, that 2022 news was already a bad publicity for the world's biggest and most reliable brand in the industry. The context of this cannot be lost after a string of strategic screw up, delayed promises and vapourware products...As some may know, for decades, Toyota bet on H2-Fuel cell and held on to its famous hybrid "Hybrid Synergy Drive" power train for too long. By end 2010s, Toyota management notice things are not getting anywhere. I supposed Akio Toyoda belatedly realized the Chinese battery tech had caught up. How Chairman of Toyota react to this reality is more telling... https://insideevs.com/news/762583/akio-toyota-evs-hybrids-emissions/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic February 27 Share February 27 (edited) On 2/27/2026 at 1:06 PM, simon_simon said: For those more informed about Japan EV development, that 2022 news was already a bad publicity for the world's biggest and most reliable brand in the industry. The context of this cannot be lost after a string of strategic screw up, delayed promises and vapourware products...As some may know, for decades, Toyota bet on H2-Fuel cell and held on to its famous hybrid "Hybrid Synergy Drive" power train for too long. By end 2010s, Toyota management notice things are not getting anywhere. I supposed Akio Toyoda belatedly realized the Chinese battery tech had caught up. How Chairman of Toyota react to this reality is more telling... https://insideevs.com/news/762583/akio-toyota-evs-hybrids-emissions/ I ❤️Akio. He is a petrol head Edited February 27 by inlinesix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic February 27 Share February 27 While we are arguing here, China is drafting the standard for autonomous driving. It will be issued in July 2027 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_simon 4th Gear February 27 Share February 27 On 2/27/2026 at 6:02 AM, inlinesix said: I hope I didn’t misunderstand to mean China Brand. Tesla also MIC Ask any Canadians or Europeans today their attitude towards Chinese EV vs Tesla branding, and many SGreans will be surprised, if not shocked 😆 https://youtu.be/plTpL4hiNsY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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simon_simon 4th Gear February 27 Share February 27 On 2/27/2026 at 6:08 AM, inlinesix said: I ❤️Akio. He is a petrol head So is the CEO of Ford - that's why he specially flew a Xiaomi SU7 to drive in his private test track...😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind30 Turbocharged February 27 Share February 27 On 2/27/2026 at 1:14 PM, simon_simon said: Ask any Canadians or Europeans today their attitude towards Chinese EV vs Tesla branding, and many SGreans will be surprised, if not shocked 😆 https://youtu.be/plTpL4hiNsY I think the drastic drop in Tesla share in Europe is partly due to politics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_simon 4th Gear February 27 Share February 27 (edited) On 2/27/2026 at 6:29 AM, Wind30 said: I think the drastic drop in Tesla share in Europe is partly due to politics. Precisely - politics can either make or break a brand (for the wrong reason) 🤣 Edited February 27 by simon_simon ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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