Car population exploded between 2006 & 2011

[Genes]

I would tend to agree with this.

 

The best (i.e. not congested) cities have manageable populations and very efficient public transport services. Melbourne, Perth, Taipei, Hong Kong. Just need to visit these places to see how they do things much better than we do here.

 

For a start, why can't we have a free city shuttle service. One service to go the Orchard > Marina loop and turn back, the other across from Bugis > Shenton Way and back. Where the two services intersect (roughly around Suntec and/or Chijmes) people can get off and hop onto the other one. This way it makes it easier for people in CBD to travel within the area without the hassle of driving.

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[Maseratigood]

Actually no matter how you look at it. Lower COE or high COE. People are still buying.

And if COE costs are lowered, we are already too overcrowded on the roads.

 

I only have one suggestion, which is the make half the workforce from different sectors work night times instead of day times.

So singapore works 24hours a day, 24 hours a day of road usage but much lesser traffic due to different working hours.

But even doing this will affect time spent with families.

 

In this case, when people are going home, there are people that are just starting work.

How can this not benefit the GDP? lol.

There is no real way to combat this problem. We are just too small a country to have so many people living in it.

Combat one problem and another crops up.

There will be no compromise right?

We can't really even blame the government unless we can come up with a better solution in which everyone in Singapore agrees with but of course if we can come up with a solution then clearly we should be running for president.

Other than that we can only blame the government for taxes, because as a small country...it is already so rich.

 

If not there will always be unhappy people that complain for change.

 

Maximize the usage of 24hours to ease of everything, no one uses the roads much at night anyway.

Just change the work timings so there is always fluency in traffic, work and everything else.

Night shifts can also help save energy consumption as demand for aircon is less?!

 

How to promote nite work? Increase businesses which operate at nite? How many tiangmans we need to set up to achieve this? Joking

 

Seriously, some industries can operate semi nite shifts eg from 3pm to midnite etc etc and reduce traditional peak traffic volumes.

Edited January 16, 2013 by Maseratigood

[Blueblack]

Actually I bet they already know how to plug - is just a matter of whether want to enforce or not.

 

When they think gets to bad, will be another flurry of prosecutions to scare people again.

 

Same way as they do it for 3/4 tank and tampering into JB

 

Look like not a bad ideas to get a extra fancy OPC car to ferry children to school and go market. Unlikely to get catch also

[Kweechang]

Look like not a bad ideas to get a extra fancy OPC car to ferry children to school and go market. Unlikely to get catch also

Provided you do not pass through any IU reader. ie, ERP gantry, car park gantry, hidden reader......................

 

see the following thread for details:

 

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2656805

 

[Darryn]

Provided you do not pass through any IU reader. ie, ERP gantry, car park gantry, hidden reader......................

 

see the following thread for details:

 

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2656805

 

I absolutely wouldn't rely on this reasoning. You never know who, where or why you may have been spotted and checked. The penalties are big enough that even caught once can

 

And you think that they catch you once, that you won't be checked on? If you flout regularly I wouldn't be surprised to be caught three or four times before you get notified.

 

[Kiadaw]

Alleviated

 

But take a look at the US experience to see why this won't work. Much as I hate to admit it, a truely workable solution is a MORE concentrated city, and the ramping up of public transport. Each bus eliminates about 30 cars - but takes up the space of about two on the the road.

 

So a true solution to congestion is a series of fast, direct and preferably small and driverless busses.

 

Can you imagine, point to point bus, seats about 10-15 people, that comes every minute or so? This would be your real solution. Get on at Pasir Ris, alight at Shenton way. Everybody has a seat, and once all seats are full it can be auto programmed to only stop one someone wants to get off.

 

If you are at a bus stop, you press a button with destination, and some sort of computer scheduling sends the appropriate bus you way in a few minutes.

NOT work. I don't care about how efficient the public transport is, I really don't. I lose face if I am caught taking public transport. I just want solutions so cars are cheap for me, & traffic is smooth for me.

 

This is just a joke, but if you take a look at MCF, you will discovered that many people in MCF just do not care about public transport & just want to make car affordable to them, & will give a sea of reasons to justify that.

[Taipan49]

NOT work. I don't care about how efficient the public transport is, I really don't. I lose face if I am caught taking public transport. I just want solutions so cars are cheap for me, & traffic is smooth for me.

 

This is just a joke, but if you take a look at MCF, you will discovered that many people in MCF just do not care about public transport & just want to make car affordable to them, & will give a sea of reasons to justify that.

 

I am not sure that smooth traffic and affordable cars are going to work in Singapore anymore unfortunately. Roads are already 12% of the land space. The only option is to go underground if we want to base transport around the car but that takes way too long to build and insanely costly.

 

I gave up on both public transport and car (though wifey still drives as got young one but her work hours are outside peak hour) and ride my bike instead. The jams and the over-crowdedness just became a joke. So now have a nice commute and as a result become quite fit with a lesser degree of stress in life.

 

[Darryn]

I am not sure that smooth traffic and affordable cars are going to work in Singapore anymore unfortunately. Roads are already 12% of the land space. The only option is to go underground if we want to base transport around the car but that takes way too long to build and insanely costly.

 

I gave up on both public transport and car (though wifey still drives as got young one but her work hours are outside peak hour) and ride my bike instead. The jams and the over-crowdedness just became a joke. So now have a nice commute and as a result become quite fit with a lesser degree of stress in life.

 

Yeah....cycling is such a great way to get around, and the bicycle is so very underused as a means for transport. I think much more could be done here.

 

And while I do love driving, I also acknowledge that when I'm alone, Pubic is often a better option...

[S4vtec]

My suggestions.

 

1) incremental levy on per household ownership ( 2nd car - 10%, 3rd car 20%)

2) catagorise cars and COE by OMV rather than capacity

3)move towards usage based charges rather than ownership

4) Travel ban for peak periods for goods vehicle

5) decentralise business districts

[Taipan49]

Yeah....cycling is such a great way to get around, and the bicycle is so very underused as a means for transport. I think much more could be done here.

 

And while I do love driving, I also acknowledge that when I'm alone, Pubic is often a better option...

 

Cycling is growing slowly as a commuting. Our building in Shenton Way originally had 5 slots for bikes up until Oct12, then had to increase to 10. Now they are all full each day this year so guess they need to find more room. There are other people who take their bikes to their offices in our building too, so there are people bike commuting.

[Forte3737]

Friday evening more jam, as few

[Darryn]

Cycling is growing slowly as a commuting. Our building in Shenton Way originally had 5 slots for bikes up until Oct12, then had to increase to 10. Now they are all full each day this year so guess they need to find more room. There are other people who take their bikes to their offices in our building too, so there are people bike commuting.

 

From home to office for me would be a 30 minute or so commute...

 

Only two things stop me, neither of which are insurmountable and will solve themselves in time

a) I still need to drop baby to daycare - this will solve itself in another 6-10 months when she can walk faster (long story, you don't need the details)

b) No shower at work - this is the biggest one. If offices were to address this then I think you would see a huge jump in cycling.

[Kiadaw]

Yeah....cycling is such a great way to get around, and the bicycle is so very underused as a means for transport. I think much more could be done here.

 

And while I do love driving, I also acknowledge that when I'm alone, Pubic is often a better option...

Cycling in Singapore? No thanks.

 

The infrastructural & mindset of people in Singapore just doesn't allow to be safe as a cyclist imo. Also, many times, if you cycle, you are just slowing down traffic.

Edited January 16, 2013 by Kiadaw

[Taipan49]

Cycling in Singapore? No thanks.

 

The infrastructural & mindset of people in Singapore just doesn't allow to be safe as a cyclist imo. Also, many times, if you cycle, you are just slowing down traffic.

 

Slowing down traffic? I beg to differ as not necessarily the case for all cyclists. On my route actually cars are in the way as you are all in jams.

 

Route is from Bedok Road, Upper East Coast Road to Guards Ave, then PCN to East Coast Park, then PCN down to Fort Road. Here all the cars are lined up in a nice jam not moving. Then left into Tanjong Rhu Road where more jam as everyone is ferrying their kids to Dunman High School, but once past Singapore Swim Club nice and quiet again to end of Tanjong Rhu, then into Gardens by the Bay East, over the Marina Barrage, then a comfy 3-lane road all to myself (Marina Gardens Drive), then into Marina Boulevarde, then follow Marina Place/St/Dr (again quiet due to traffic light timings) to Prince Edward and then I am at work. So for 20km commute, I don't think I hold up any traffic at all!

 

So in some areas the infrastructure is there for bike commuting. This route is getting popular too for those on the East Coast. Will be even better once the MCE construction is completed as Fort Road/Tanjong Rhu will be by-passed. Just have to wait 12 more months.

 

Fortunately my work has a shower.

 

[Aliensmotor]

you will see many cars will be scrap in 2014.

[Darryn]

Slowing down traffic? I beg to differ as not necessarily the case for all cyclists. On my route actually cars are in the way as you are all in jams.

 

Route is from Bedok Road, Upper East Coast Road to Guards Ave, then PCN to East Coast Park, then PCN down to Fort Road. Here all the cars are lined up in a nice jam not moving. Then left into Tanjong Rhu Road where more jam as everyone is ferrying their kids to Dunman High School, but once past Singapore Swim Club nice and quiet again to end of Tanjong Rhu, then into Gardens by the Bay East, over the Marina Barrage, then a comfy 3-lane road all to myself (Marina Gardens Drive), then into Marina Boulevarde, then follow Marina Place/St/Dr (again quiet due to traffic light timings) to Prince Edward and then I am at work. So for 20km commute, I don't think I hold up any traffic at all!

 

So in some areas the infrastructure is there for bike commuting. This route is getting popular too for those on the East Coast. Will be even better once the MCE construction is completed as Fort Road/Tanjong Rhu will be by-passed. Just have to wait 12 more months.

 

Fortunately my work has a shower.

 

I'm +1 on this, if I were to commute, more than half would be park connector...

[inlinesix]

Cycling in Singapore? No thanks.

 

The infrastructural & mindset of people in Singapore just doesn't allow to be safe as a cyclist imo. Also, many times, if you cycle, you are just slowing down traffic.

I have been cycling to work since 2007. Most of the time, i am on the road. Cars (except Taxi) have no issue sharing the road with me even when i hog the winding road in front of Millienia Walk.

 

I used to cycle on Bkt Timah Rd to Velocity every Tuesday evening. Cars have no problem overtaking me le.

 

Car for me is NOT transport.

[Benarsenal]

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I know. It's a pipe dream. And it shows how f**king money hungry our Govt is.