Another bus interchange incident

[Mustank]

 

 

we need Charles Bronson....

 

this guy?

 

[JackRabbit]

exactly.. some one who can fulfil some punks death wish:

 

[Sabian]

 

 

we need Charles Bronson....

Or Harry Callahan

[Maseratigood]

like this?

 

 

OMG!! what kind of cap was he wearing???

 

[Maseratigood]

.......... regarding punishing the guy, i am thinking that guy needs help more than a sentence.

Many artists or sportsmen or "successful" people had a bad temper. Roy Keane, Cantona, balotelli... would all benefit from anger management courses.

Other than containing them, there should be some help to let them explore their own strengths and vent their anger in a constructive way.

 

A nanny state operates like a relaxed cookie cutter . If u don't fit a generous mold, u get cut or sliced but I am thinking there could be other ways.

 

PS: I do respect law and order, but am thinking burning the witch is not the only solution, maybe the witch is a good author and writes harry porter....

 

This guy seems to be a special case relative to what you have cited eg established artists, sportsmen, etc who are good (as proven) at what they do but come with bad temper etc.

 

Nevermind, we can still give him the benefits of the doubt ie he may still have some hidden talents somewhere. But there's no need to let him roam freely to have a chance to reveal to the world whatever hidden talents he may have, at the risk of letting him create more public nuisance/harms.

 

Why not let his hidden talents shine through but keep him away from others just in case he continues to abuse the rest again and again. He ought to be whipped/put-away, as some suggested, or isolated while we all wait for his hidden talents to manifest themselves?

Edited October 25, 2013 by Maseratigood

[Maseratigood]

It might be two factors -

a) base pay is very very low in SG - like $800 or $900 per month. To make up for this, most work 12 hour days, 6 days a week so so that can clock overtime - so almost always tired

b) The traditional attitude of Singaporean towards service related jobs - means no respect for security guards, so few of "quality" people apply

 

 

Revenues/turnovers of shopping malls are not small, surely the mall management could afford to set some decent KPIs (including the expected quality and appearance etc of the guards) they want and pay for such guard service decently ie not simply adopting the idea of cheaper-"no-need-better"-just cheapest!! I guess, sadly, the management prefers suppressing the guards' pay, inflating the rentals and get away with max profits!!

Edited October 25, 2013 by Maseratigood

[Darryn]

 

 

we need Charles Bronson....

 

What - no Paul Blart?

 

I think we need to hire some Sledgehammer to be a freelance mall security guard

 

Revenues/turnovers of shopping malls are not small, surely the mall management could afford to set some decent KPIs (including the expected quality and appearance etc of the guards) they want and pay for such guard service decently ie not simply adopting the idea of cheaper-"no-need-better"-just cheapest!! I guess, sadly, the management prefers suppressing the guards' pay, inflating the rentals and get away with max profits!!

 

Not to target anything or anyone in particular, but isn't that the general attitude in Singapore? Cheap n Good?

The Cheaper the better?

[LTLT]

just to tip those would be heros out there. Nearly got myself in trouble when tackling down a idiot high on drugs. He was abusing everyone around and suddenly turn aggressive to one of the passer by(old lady). My instinct just take in and pounce on him, resulting in falling down with him, and in the event he broke his nose. A few guys came and help out while waiting for mata. After mate came, they take down notes and blah blah blah.... After whole story, they told me I could get in trouble if that guy decides to sue me for causing harm to him(breaking his f---king nose) Got worried for at least few months like waiting for sentencing... Luckily think he too high to remember what had happened.

GET REAL Guys, LAW is there to protect whoever knows how to use it, not to protect the weak or innocent!!!! Not sure I would still help out anot...

[Fcw75]

just to tip those would be heros out there. Nearly got myself in trouble when tackling down a idiot high on drugs. He was abusing everyone around and suddenly turn aggressive to one of the passer by(old lady). My instinct just take in and pounce on him, resulting in falling down with him, and in the event he broke his nose. A few guys came and help out while waiting for mata. After mate came, they take down notes and blah blah blah.... After whole story, they told me I could get in trouble if that guy decides to sue me for causing harm to him(breaking his f---king nose) Got worried for at least few months like waiting for sentencing... Luckily think he too high to remember what had happened.

GET REAL Guys, LAW is there to protect whoever knows how to use it, not to protect the weak or innocent!!!! Not sure I would still help out anot...

 

You had the same experience as galantspeedz bro I believe.

 

Helped out people then in the end the police warned you may be charged....? WTF?

[RadX]

just to tip those would be heros out there. Nearly got myself in trouble when tackling down a idiot high on drugs. He was abusing everyone around and suddenly turn aggressive to one of the passer by(old lady). My instinct just take in and pounce on him, resulting in falling down with him, and in the event he broke his nose. A few guys came and help out while waiting for mata. After mate came, they take down notes and blah blah blah.... After whole story, they told me I could get in trouble if that guy decides to sue me for causing harm to him(breaking his f---king nose) Got worried for at least few months like waiting for sentencing... Luckily think he too high to remember what had happened.

GET REAL Guys, LAW is there to protect whoever knows how to use it, not to protect the weak or innocent!!!! Not sure I would still help out anot...

 

 

thanks for sharing bro....and yes, sometimes we wonder why chivalry is dead.

 

I guess we have much more to lose than these losers who have nothing. Once we enter the slammer, we are gone in society, and in pretty much our normal lives.

 

Thus, we are cognizant of this fact, and best, to stay away and mind our own business. It is indeed sad that our society has become as such. Just by sheer virtue of the system that would challenge your 'right doing'

 

That said, the flip side, is we do not want vigilantes who would want to take the law into their own hands.

[Giordanogavin]

Hero dies young....

[Dream]

 

 

If he spat at me I wud whack him unconsious then I wil pee into his open mouth.

 

 

 

The MRT staff sud first warn him not to spit. If he do again, ty sud seperate them n wait for police. If he continue to b abusive, just armlock him n bring to office to wait for police.

 

Im surprised the MRT staff did nothing when he spit at the woman. I went MRT station today I see several security gusrds there. Where were they when this was going on?

Maybe real guard work 9 to 5. After that carafare taken over...

[Voodooman]

from the video, can see a few SMRT staff and a few security guard.

only 1 garang security guard dare to confront the bully.

the others just watch free show.

PUI PUI.....only protect own SMRT staff but not passengers.

SMRT should hire Ahmad Zaki Mohd Said, Firdauz Ismail and Iskandar Sanip as their security guards, Mr. Juraimi Kamaludin won't stand a chance. LOL... Still don't understand why SMRT staff did not try to restrain him.

 

Former St James bouncer jailed 2 months for assaulting patron

 

Published on Oct 24, 2013

 

By Khushwant Singh

 

A judge said he found it "mystifying" how police issued licences to nightclub security officers when sentencing a bouncer to two months in jail on Thursday for assaulting a patron.

 

Ahmad Zaki Mohd Said, 35, had been found guilty and convicted on Oct 8 after an eight-day trial. He, Firdauz Ismail, 26 and Iskandar Sanip, 31 assaulted crane operator Chee Thin Kam, 30, so viciously, they left a shoe print on his face. The attack took place at about 3am on Feb 23 last year after they escorted him out of St James Power Station.

 

Pleading for a lenient sentence, Ahmad Zaki's lawyer, Mr V. Ramesh, said that the police had suspended Ahmad Zaki's security officer licence and may now bar him completely from security work.

 

District Judge Low Wee Ping then said: "The court is comforted that bouncers have to be licensed by police but curious that Firdauz continued to be licensed although he had been convicted in 2011 of beating up three patrons at the same club."

[Sosaria]

just to tip those would be heros out there. Nearly got myself in trouble when tackling down a idiot high on drugs. He was abusing everyone around and suddenly turn aggressive to one of the passer by(old lady). My instinct just take in and pounce on him, resulting in falling down with him, and in the event he broke his nose. A few guys came and help out while waiting for mata. After mate came, they take down notes and blah blah blah.... After whole story, they told me I could get in trouble if that guy decides to sue me for causing harm to him(breaking his f---king nose) Got worried for at least few months like waiting for sentencing... Luckily think he too high to remember what had happened.

GET REAL Guys, LAW is there to protect whoever knows how to use it, not to protect the weak or innocent!!!! Not sure I would still help out anot...

 

No worries, go to court, truth will come out. Then again, though, it will still be some trouble to you.

 

This partly explains why many people just prefer to be onlookers.

 

Many of these crazy people who are aggressive will turn meek and perfectly composed when police arrive on the scene. This is the problem with crazy people - they are crazy so they exhibit this dual personality readily!

 

I also had an encounter something like yours... I retaliated, then when police arrived and interviewed me and the other guy seperately... I was told that should the other guy decide to go to hospital to check for injuries, and then file a complaint, it would be considered a case of voluntarily causing hurt.

 

Then I was wondering: maybe should have let him injure me instead?? Or as in this case at the bus interchange, the women just let the man spit on them.

 

Anyway, no issue in the end. The other guy was crazy after all, and probably goes around causing trouble. Unlikely he would've gone to the trouble of going to court, etc.

 

Nevertheless, I was advised by lawyer friend that it's no point pursuing these people legally because, since they are likely crazy, they won't be held responsible, or it could be considered mitigating circumstances, e.g. they are suffering from depression, etc. Furthermore, these people, especially if lower income, could qualify for free legal aid, while we will have to shell out money for lawyer. We still lose out! ... Bo pian... just live and let live, and keep an eye out for 'siao lang'

Edited October 25, 2013 by Sosaria

[Dark]

just to tip those would be heros out there. Nearly got myself in trouble when tackling down a idiot high on drugs. He was abusing everyone around and suddenly turn aggressive to one of the passer by(old lady). My instinct just take in and pounce on him, resulting in falling down with him, and in the event he broke his nose. A few guys came and help out while waiting for mata. After mate came, they take down notes and blah blah blah.... After whole story, they told me I could get in trouble if that guy decides to sue me for causing harm to him(breaking his f---king nose) Got worried for at least few months like waiting for sentencing... Luckily think he too high to remember what had happened.

GET REAL Guys, LAW is there to protect whoever knows how to use it, not to protect the weak or innocent!!!! Not sure I would still help out anot...

 

Thanks for sharing this tip.

 

Seems that SG law system goes strictly by-the-book and executed base on technicalities so whoever understands it more and know how to exploit will always have the advantage.

 

I think you can almost code it into a program or flowchart and will be 99% right of the outcome.

 

So unlike the US where circumstances are taken into account like the Land Rover run over the motorcycle case, they end up not charging the Land Rover driver but those who whack him all kena charged.

 

That should be the spirit of the law..

Edited October 25, 2013 by Dark

[Jman888]

 

 

thanks for sharing bro....and yes, sometimes we wonder why chivalry is dead.

 

I guess we have much more to lose than these losers who have nothing. Once we enter the slammer, we are gone in society, and in pretty much our normal lives.

 

Thus, we are cognizant of this fact, and best, to stay away and mind our own business. It is indeed sad that our society has become as such. Just by sheer virtue of the system that would challenge your 'right doing'

 

That said, the flip side, is we do not want vigilantes who would want to take the law into their own hands.

 

they apply the west human right in the wrong way

[Pisces69]

 

which part of your body will do the salute?.... not your flag pole, i hope!! [grin]

 

 

My flagpole only salute to XMM.

[Pisces69]

 

Such people are a burden or even harm to the society if they are allowed to roam freely.

 

But we need't / cannot eliminate them as everyone has a right to live.

 

Some of taxpayers' money may have to be spent on housing them in some kind of isolation.

 

Not sure if our legal system has the proper provisions to confine them ie keep them from harming others.

 

As it seems no amount of counselling, rehab seems capable of changing them. Maybe we should just let them live out their shelf life in isolation (since they cant live peacfully with others), without causing further burden / harm to the society.

 

 

U know last time Suharto was troubled cos there were so many beggars in Jakarta, which was giving the country a very bad reputation.

 

One day he made a decision. Ask army/polisi to round up all the beggars n send them to Irian Jaya jungles. If ty survive there good. If ty die also good.

 

Thats why now got so many of them still surviving in that region.

 

Maybe our gharmen can consider one of the unused islands to dump all those druggies n useless pple like what Suharto did?