Could Anyone Have Braked In Time To Avoid This Accident?

[PSP415]

Slower speed may or may not result in a timely braking but can mean lesser impact on that girl.

 

Generally, when nearing a bus stop especially with a bus within its bay, slow down as much as possible because there are occasions where someone will just dash out from the front of the bus, a blindspot for human drivers.

 

I doubt I will brake on time with that speed...then again, it wasn't exactly excessive, just that I normally would slow down approaching such areas...a habit from seeing too many careles people running towards or away from buses. Their determination to test one's braking skulls.....oops....skills is scary and can cause one's heart to stop. Such is their powers to shock your brakes.

 

Hope she is fine with no major injuries and have a speedy recovery.

 

Safe ride

Cheers

[Gitanic]

that being said,i would advice the Authorities to redesign the middle fencing.

 

the metal bars by proper mind should be more sparsely spaced.

 

so that while performing the role of prevent crossing,drivers can see through the other side.

 

an act of negligence i would say.

Edited February 20, 2014 by Gitanic

[Mockngbrd]

that being said,i would advice the Authorities to redesign the middle fencing.

 

the metal bars by proper mind should be more sparsely spaced.

 

so that while performing the role of prevent crossing,drivers can see through the other side.

 

an act of negligence i would say.

 

negligence by the kid

[Gendut]

Partial fault goes to the driver.

 

Remember, the principle that it is the vehicle that is supposed to keep a lookout for pedestrians, regardless.

 

Since he cannot see the other side of the fence, he must slow down before the point the fence ends to make sure no pedestrians there.

 

He cannot claim total innocence esp its a road surrounding housing estates, near a bus stop....an area where ther are bound to be people around.

 

Also looks like he is going above 50kmh. Charge the fella for inconsiderate driving.

 

THIS ACCIDENT IS PREVENTABLE!

[Toothiewabbit]

I may be wrong but the cam car shd hv been doing 50-60, which is what I would do. My answer to TS' question is the same as every bros here.

 

Therefore......will LTA just fence up the whole farking stretch??!

[Fuelsaver]

Partial fault goes to the driver.

 

Remember, the principle that it is the vehicle that is supposed to keep a lookout for pedestrians, regardless.

 

Since he cannot see the other side of the fence, he must slow down before the point the fence ends to make sure no pedestrians there.

 

He cannot claim total innocence esp its a road surrounding housing estates, near a bus stop....an area where ther are bound to be people around.

 

Also looks like he is going above 50kmh. Charge the fella for inconsiderate driving.

 

THIS ACCIDENT IS PREVENTABLE!

u need to know when viewed fr car dvr it would appear slight faster. The ody before it travelled much faster. Given the cabby reflex oredi considered fast that it almost came to a halt instantly.

[TJX]

An unfortunate accident that no one wants it to happen. Fortunately, the girl is fine. Glad to know she is recovering as the impact was quite unimaginable. LTK must have thank his lucky star that it happened in sembawang and not aljunied or hougang.. If not another opposition bashing can be expected........

[Nzy]

IIRC my driving instructor did teach me that when passing a bus stop should do the same thing as going through the junction. Release accelerator and cover the brake without any pressure to reduce reaction time cuz when there is a bus stop nearby there is a high chance someone will dash across.

[Jman888]

she misjudge or too anxious to get to the bus, I think she hop over the island/divider while dashing across, if she would stop and stand on the island, the driver would have seen her.

[Vinyl]

I think those honest with themselves will know that this accident can only be prevented by the girl herself.

 

My heart feels for the girl and I really hope she can pull through.

[Vhtfhwlego]

i can say the driver is a lousy driver.

 

there is fence but i was able to see shadow coming through.

 

wld have traveled dead slow and braked in time.

 

lousy driver, take for granted everythng is always clear for him to move.

Talk is cheap.

I see the video for the first time also got shocked by the incident.

And already declared that I also cannot stop in time.

 

- See thru fence is possible but this situation, fence at bend which creates longer blind spot.

- A frame of cabby could had been blocked by line of sight.

[Jerichol]

The road barrier is the culprit. Many a times I find myself in similar situation and usually near traffic crossings. People like to jay walk even on a traffic light regulated crossing. Then there are those cyclist who simply refuse to get off their bicycle when crossing!! Those barriers blocked driver's view and when the light is in your favor ... you still have get that sense of insecurity when you could see what may dash in front of you!

 

LTA must really come up with better barrier design or do not bother having them! Look at this case, you will not see the child in time to react and it would be even worse at night.

 

No doubt a road accident but be kind to the driver ... thank god there is a camera on board.

[Jman888]

The road barrier is the culprit. Many a times I find myself in similar situation and usually near traffic crossings. People like to jay walk even on a traffic light regulated crossing. Then there are those cyclist who simply refuse to get off their bicycle when crossing!! Those barriers blocked driver's view and when the light is in your favor ... you still have get that sense of insecurity when you could see what may dash in front of you!

 

LTA must really come up with better barrier design or do not bother having them! Look at this case, you will not see the child in time to react and it would be even worse at night.

 

No doubt a road accident but be kind to the driver ... thank god there is a camera on board.

 

Why not build our city with high gate and high wall like east Germany used to have?

[Kangadrool]

IIRC my driving instructor did teach me that when passing a bus stop should do the same thing as going through the junction. Release accelerator and cover the brake without any pressure to reduce reaction time cuz when there is a bus stop nearby there is a high chance someone will dash across.

 

sounds logical. But, in densely built Singapore, how? Every 400-500m, there'll be a bus stop and in between bus stops, traffic junctions and whats not abound. End up, leg always standby on the brake pedal.

 

I say, drive sensibly and look far and wide is better option. No phone, even if hands free. No talking to passengers.

[Vhtfhwlego]

Partial fault goes to the driver.

 

Remember, the principle that it is the vehicle that is supposed to keep a lookout for pedestrians, regardless.

 

Since he cannot see the other side of the fence, he must slow down before the point the fence ends to make sure no pedestrians there.

 

He cannot claim total innocence esp its a road surrounding housing estates, near a bus stop....an area where ther are bound to be people around.

 

Also looks like he is going above 50kmh. Charge the fella for inconsiderate driving.

 

THIS ACCIDENT IS PREVENTABLE!

Do a test on yourself.

Sit in your own car, engine off, relax mode, left hand hold video-camera, right foot slightly depressing gas pedal, e-brake.

Repeat it 10 times, document in hundreds of sec how long it takes for your foot off gas & e-brake.

 

Read an article, 0.200secs~0.350secs.

 

Go online find time reaction games, the simplistic of it, u have a stopwatch showing how fast your brain react.

 

Average joe, 0.2secs to 0.3secs.

 

Total it should take 0.5secs to react and brakes being activated but car is still not stop.

 

See video & count the seconds when girl first appear and hit by car.

1 sec!

[Gendut]

Gendut, on 20 Feb 2014 - 7:30 PM, said:

Partial fault goes to the driver.

 

Remember, the principle that it is the vehicle that is supposed to keep a lookout for pedestrians, regardless.

 

Since he cannot see the other side of the fence, he must slow down before the point the fence ends to make sure no pedestrians there.

 

He cannot claim total innocence esp its a road surrounding housing estates, near a bus stop....an area where ther are bound to be people around.

 

Also looks like he is going above 50kmh. Charge the fella for inconsiderate driving.

 

THIS ACCIDENT IS PREVENTABLE!

 

Oooo....so much dislikes for my post. Well Singaporeans....I give up.

 

If this is a sampling of how drivers on the road feel, and resist learning for the better, then I guess it is inevitable......

 

Inevitable that someday some of you WILL do the same and kill someone.

 

And that someone could be you son, daughter, mother, grandparents, brother, sister, wife or girlfriend.

 

This incident has happen. And it has happened before. If you do not learn the lesson of how it can be prevented, give your love ones a hug tonite.

 

You may not see them next time.

[Vhtfhwlego]

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130205164123AAPiQsl

 

To react & stop while doing 15miles per hour takes 4.7m.

 

From edge of barrier to girl, about the same?

On papers, it is only possible to stop if driver is doing 15miles per hour.

 

So those claim that can stop, hmm...

 

 

Given:-

15 mi/hr = 6.71 m/s

& 55 mi/hr = 24.59 m/s

& 12 ft/sec^2 = 3.66 m/s^2

(a) distance covered in reaction time(s1) by s = ut

=>s1 = 6.71 x 0.7 = 4.70 m

distance covered after applying brakes (s2) by v^2 = u^2 - 2as

=>0 = (6.71)^2 - 2 x 3.66 x s2

=>s2 = 6.15 m

=>Total stopping distance (s) = s1+s2 = 10.85 m

(b) do yourself as above.

 

 

More detail information.

 

http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/reactiontime.html

Edited February 20, 2014 by Vhtfhwlego

[Gendut]

Instead of your fancy calculations, how about telling us the various ways this driver could have avoided/lessen the impact of the accident?

 

Hindsight is 20/20. But lets apply it for the future.

 

Vhtfhwlego, on 20 Feb 2014 - 10:35 PM, said:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130205164123AAPiQsl

To react & stop while doing 15miles per hour takes 4.7m.

From edge of barrier to girl, about the same?
On papers, it is only possible to stop if driver is doing 15miles per hour.

So those claim that can stop, hmm...


Given:-
15 mi/hr = 6.71 m/s
& 55 mi/hr = 24.59 m/s
& 12 ft/sec^2 = 3.66 m/s^2
(a) distance covered in reaction time(s1) by s = ut
=>s1 = 6.71 x 0.7 = 4.70 m
distance covered after applying brakes (s2) by v^2 = u^2 - 2as
=>0 = (6.71)^2 - 2 x 3.66 x s2
=>s2 = 6.15 m
=>Total stopping distance (s) = s1+s2 = 10.85 m
(b) do yourself as above.


More detail information.

http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/reactiontime.html