Malaysian airline plane goes missing! MH370

[Phluvcat]

From what I know. Alot of the theories bandied around are crap.

 

1. Mechanical failure. Probabilities is next to zero. Plane can fly with one engine or even glide with none. More likely pilot error.

 

2. Terrorism. If really terrorist wouldn't u think someone would have came out to claim credit by now? Terrorists commit crime to make a statement. No point pull off something like that and keep quiet.

 

Cos its only part of the story...the next part of the agenda not carried out yet...note the plane, if its really hijacked, is still in their hands.

[Yuan]

 

this level of sophistication points to training by a country state.

 

state sponsored terrorism is an act of war.

 

Which country would wanna go to war with Malaysia?

 

It may not be Malaysia.

 

Possibility could be China since most of the passengers are Chinese citizens and plane is heading for Beijing.

[Little_prince]

 

Cos its only part of the story...the next part of the agenda not carried out yet...note the plane, if its really hijacked, is still in their hands.

they have no capability to refuel it la... jetA although is just a form of kerosene is not so easily obtainable

[Coolad]

I find it hard to believe that despite all the latest high tech surveillance and warfare equipments, we could not locate a big commercial plane even after 36 hours.

 

What the heck is happening??

Not easy to locate lah... Like needle in haystack... 2009 air France flight 447 took 5 days to locate pieces of wrecks and 2 years to recover the rest and black box...

[Darthrevan]

 

It may not be Malaysia.

 

Possibility could be China since most of the passengers are Chinese citizens and plane is heading for Beijing.

 

its possible it's the Uighurs from China?

[Caravan]

 

Electrical failure? How well do you know about the failure rate of electronics and can you predict when it'll fail, other than looking at the MTBF? Just need one critical component to fail and it'll bring along a chain of events. Fake or immiration parts many have also entered the supply chain and unknowingly deployed onto the aircraft during maintenance. Even Air Force One was not spared from having fakes being used.

 

Mid-air explosive decompression? Not the type encountered by SQ's A380. That explains the explosive force hitting the interior of the plane where no complete bodies were found. The AF crash that was highly mentioned despite crashing into the ocean still had bodies strapped onto the seats.

 

There were also rumours of SG supporting the Suharto regime, and the aircraft was shot down as a warning.

 

There were many unknowns, yet they just ruled on pilot suicide. Then what is the co-pilot doing? Both of them planning to die together? The insurance cover and his financial troubles are the suggesting points for suicide, but were there any evidence that he pushed the control column to induce a dive?

 

I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing.

For the 185, the investigators are the experts and would have gone through the evidence and all possibilities before coming to a conclusion.

What you raised are just speculation without the support of evidence, expertise or analysis.

 

[The_Bear]

 

I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing.

For the 185, the investigators are the experts and would have gone through the evidence and all possibilities before coming to a conclusion.

What you raised are just speculation without the support of evidence, expertise or analysis.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilkAir_Flight_185

 

I think both of you should take Silk Air 185 out of this thread and further it somewhere else.

[Opel17]

........ Even u take cruise also no signal

 

Not sure about other cruises lines, tel/sms are possible onboard Star Cruises SuperStar Virgo.

http://www.starcruises.com/en/home/get-prepared/onboard.aspx

Cellular Phone Service & Texting at Sea

Freestyle Cellular Service

 

Edited March 9, 2014 by Opel17

[Solar]

 

Cos its only part of the story...the next part of the agenda not carried out yet...note the plane, if its really hijacked, is still in their hands.

if it has not crashed yet, is there any airfield large enough to land such an aircraft without getting detected?

[Kangadrool]

Those are using Inmarsat satellite communication system.

 

Very expensive stuff and expensive to call/message. Captains and Masters never liked people who suka suka send email to them. There's a protocol. Once ships near shore, they will normally use prepaid mobile cards to call/send messages.

 

There won't be any telco signal in the middle of deep blue sea.

 

My fren ever called me from an oil rig using microwave satellite comms, sounded like he's calling from the moon. Lotsa of statics....

 

 

Not sure about other cruises lines, tel/sms are possible onboard Star Cruises SuperStar Virgo.

http://www.starcruises.com/en/home/get-prepared/onboard.aspx

Cellular Phone Service & Texting at Sea

Freestyle Cellular Service

 

 

Edited March 9, 2014 by Kangadrool

[Philipkee]

If it's a terrorist network, it must have been a very good one. They must have known how to operate ground radars, and to turn them off at the correct, coordinated time, and then turn them on again, so that even if the aircraft continued in Msian airspace, it went undetected to the authorities and simply disappeared from radar and radio contacts.

 

And then land on an airstrip or open ground with no radar and no radio control tower (still possible in this day and age).

 

Not really possible. The plane will always be picked up by radar if it is still flying. What can be switched off is the transponder so the plane cannot be identified but the blip is there.

 

If the plane suddenly vanished totally, either it went into stealth mode, sucked by aliens/ Bermuda triangle or it suddenly crashed.

 

I believe in the maxim KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid). The simplest answer is usually the most likely. I go with a crash.

[Thaiyotakamli]

 

Not sure about other cruises lines, tel/sms are possible onboard Star Cruises SuperStar Virgo.

http://www.starcruises.com/en/home/get-prepared/onboard.aspx

Cellular Phone Service & Texting at Sea

Freestyle Cellular Service

 

Bro, i mean here is if you in the sea u wont get any signal.

 

This star cruise phone service are provided by the cruise. u wont be able to get malaysian, thai or singapore telco service. Now if u stranded or plane land on the sea, how u call ur family?

[Proton_neutron]

if it has not crashed yet, is there any airfield large enough to land such an aircraft without getting detected?

 

It's not an impossibility. I'm no expert, but I did read previously somewhere that there are landing strips that is just tarmac. No ATC, no radar contact.

 

If it's a terror attack, the terrorist group responsible for this downing of aircraft would have claimed their efforts.

 

Even if the aircraft got hijacked and diverted to an empty air strip or open field, people would have tried communicating through their phones.

 

IF a strayed missile shot down the aircraft (especially so from surface/ navy ships), radar systems would have detected it. Considering how each country is keeping track of other country's missile systems tightly.

 

Anything is a possibility until debris is found. Let's give it till its 5th day deadline like the AirFrance's 447 flight.

Bro, i mean here is if you in the sea u wont get any signal.

 

This star cruise phone service are provided by the cruise. u wont be able to get malaysian, thai or singapore telco service. Now if u stranded or plane land on the sea, how u call ur family?

 

Technically, GPS signal can still pick you up via your phones/ GPS enabled device. IF so, the Americans who own the GPS satellites around the world would be able to track your location. Technically lah.

[Thaiyotakamli]

heard over radio that Thailand received SOS radio from the flight, it may have reverted back into Thailand .... they search the wrong area?

heard malaysia now moved their search to malaysia's water territories, not ruling out the possibilities the plane revert back

[Proton_neutron]

Not really possible. The plane will always be picked up by radar if it is still flying. What can be switched off is the transponder so the plane cannot be identified but the blip is there.

 

If the plane suddenly vanished totally, either it went into stealth mode, sucked by aliens/ Bermuda triangle or it suddenly crashed.

 

I believe in the maxim KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid). The simplest answer is usually the most likely. I go with a crash.

 

Bermuda triangle-like effect highly unlikely. Many flights pass by that route. This is the first time such a thing occur.

 

Stealth mode? I don't think so. Unless the aircraft was flying below radar. But even so, radio comms won't just disappear like that, although there is a possibility that radio comms equipment failed.

 

Suddenly crash? AF447 proves that even if the aircraft is diving, radar systems will still be able to pick it up (showing reduced altitude by the seconds) until it goes below radar cover.

 

It won't suddenly disappear from radar just like that.

[Yewheng]

 

Bermuda triangle-like effect highly unlikely. Many flights pass by that route. This is the first time such a thing occur.

 

Stealth mode? I don't think so. Unless the aircraft was flying below radar. But even so, radio comms won't just disappear like that, although there is a possibility that radio comms equipment failed.

 

Suddenly crash? AF447 proves that even if the aircraft is diving, radar systems will still be able to pick it up (showing reduced altitude by the seconds) until it goes below radar cover.

 

It won't suddenly disappear from radar just like that.

So which means explode in mid-air could be possible??

[Proton_neutron]

heard malaysia now moved their search to malaysia's water territories, not ruling out the possibilities the plane revert back

 

 

Yeah, I find it fishy that they only searched the ocean, but not on their main land. I mean the aircraft could have crashed on their land isn't it? So many forest in Malaysia....

So which means explode in mid-air could be possible??

 

Yes, but even so, debris (big or small) would be floating by now. Small metal bits (especially aluminium alloys) should float on sea water isn't it? Composite components even more so.

 

It could jolly well be a terror attack. Small, new-found terrorist group.

[Thaiyotakamli]

 

 

Yeah, I find it fishy that they only searched the ocean, but not on their main land. I mean the aircraft could have crashed on their land isn't it? So many forest in Malaysia....

weird thing it disappear from the radar and some news said signal spotted in the ocean. search also cannot find. now my imagination running wild, i wonder if they are trapped in another world dimension whereby in that dimension, a minute equal to a day in the earth