GrabHitch/RYDE-car pooling services

[Leo72]

LTA currently super busy with escooters and bike-share firms. All others feedback and complains they have no time to attend. 

wait for things to happened first then take action of course super busy lar...  Also super tiring when you try to play catch-up game..

 

Actually, not only LTA, most of the government agencies are working in passive mode instead of being pro-active. Things happened then they start to find solutions.

[Kyrios]

Hmm ever since Grab upgraded its app to version 4.46.3, i have problems logging in...anyone has the same issues?

[Cumzilla]

It's ok that you forget about the rule and do it once but try not to do that anymore as touch wood if anything happen to the passengers you hitch, it'll not be covered under the insurance as the Grabhitch will have record of you doing the third trip. Maybe you're doing stacking and not trip.

 

Do take note that there is a difference between stacking and trip. Trip refer to you travelling from your current location to your destination. Along the way, you can pick up multiple passengers up to the limit of the passengers allow on your vehicle (this is stacking).

 

actually for picking along the way, i am still confused whether this way is considered as 1 trip. Do you have to confirm all the riders BEFORE the start of the journey, eg, let say start from punggol and end at serangoon central, u accept 1st rider from punggol to sengkang, 2nd rider from sengkang to hougang, 3rd rider from hougang to serangoon north and last rider to somewhere near your destination. OR after you drop off 1st rider, do a quick search, found 2nd rider to hougang, accept that rider and then same sequence as above except is pick up, drop off, search and take booking...

[13177]

wait for things to happened first then take action of course super busy lar...  Also super tiring when you try to play catch-up game..

 

Actually, not only LTA, most of the government agencies are working in passive mode instead of being pro-active. Things happened then they start to find solutions.

This is so true. Nothing happened they would not take any action or listen to feedback.

[Buadongdong]

As a rider, i have no idea how many trip that the hitch driver has done? So if anything happen, the rider would not be covered which sounds scary.

you have your own personal insurance don't you?? Why worry about driver's insurance?

[13177]

you have your own personal insurance don't you?? Why worry about driver's insurance?

You are right. 

[Nzy]

It's ok that you forget about the rule and do it once but try not to do that anymore as touch wood if anything happen to the passengers you hitch, it'll not be covered under the insurance as the Grabhitch will have record of you doing the third trip. Maybe you're doing stacking and not trip.

 

Do take note that there is a difference between stacking and trip. Trip refer to you travelling from your current location to your destination. Along the way, you can pick up multiple passengers up to the limit of the passengers allow on your vehicle (this is stacking).

 

From what I know, it is not true. The passenger in the car will still be covered even if the hitch driver has done 2 trips or 10 trips. This is because hitch is not a commercial thing. The passengers are considered as passengers in a private car and in the event of claim, there isn't even a need to mention why the person was in that car. I have done claims for people who took hitch and the insurers don't even need to know that the passengers are using grabhitch.

 

The only thing you might lose out on is the additional personal accident coverage provided by grab for the hitch customers. But their T&C only mentioned that not covered if number of passengers declared is wrong and not the same person that booked the hitch took the car. 

you have your own personal insurance don't you?? Why worry about driver's insurance?

 

Not everyone have ma. Some only have medishield life and no other hospitalisation or accident plans.

Edited March 7, 2018 by Nzy

[Sunset73]

 

Not to pour cold water over what u doing, hope you are aware that anything that happen after the 2nd carpooling trip, eg, accident that results in injuries or more serious case like fatality to the passengers u are hitching may land you in serious trouble. Insurance may not be covered for yourself and the passengers as you are already flouting LTA's carpooling regulation.

 

Grab is aware of ppl doing more than 2 trips, if not they would not have came out with updated app version restricting the number of trips ppl are doing. You can check out the FB group, some of the drivers have counters in place on the app, once they completed the 2nd trip, they will not be able to accept bookings anymore on the app. To correct some of you also, its a max of 4 pickups per trip and not as many u want.

 

https://www.grab.com/sg/hitch/#firstTier2

 

How many trips can I offer a day as a Hitch driver?

Based on current carpooling regulations, non-commercial drivers can only complete 2 trips in a calendar day. While we appreciate your enthusiasm for carpooling, please note that 2 trips a day limit is set by LTA regardless of whichever platform you use.

We hope that you won’t put yourself and your riders at risk as your insurance may not cover if you do more than 2 trips a day in total, combined across all platforms.

For drivers who are worried their insurance does not cover GrabHitch rides, remember we are the ONLY carpooling service who has purchased additional insurance for extra coverage provided no regulations are breached.

 

Yes I understand where you coming from. Don't worry. I stopped doing that as now no time to hitch extra. Now become good boy, only 2 trips (to work and back home). Lol.

I guess even have counters in place on the app which restricting the number of trips people are doing, i believe some hitch drivers might hitch passengers offline. Maybe this is why some hitch driver can earn so much within a week.

 

Nope. That did not happen to me. There's a loophole to this.

As a rider, i have no idea how many trip that the hitch driver has done? So if anything happen, the rider would not be covered which sounds scary.

 

I doubt the rider care. As long as they get to their destination fast, in a cheap and comfortable manner.

Edited March 7, 2018 by Sunset73

[Leo72]

From what I know, it is not true. The passenger in the car will still be covered even if the hitch driver has done 2 trips or 10 trips. This is because hitch is not a commercial thing. The passengers are considered as passengers in a private car and in the event of claim, there isn't even a need to mention why the person was in that car. I have done claims for people who took hitch and the insurers don't even need to know that the passengers are using grabhitch.

 

The only thing you might lose out on is the additional personal accident coverage provided by grab for the hitch customers. But their T&C only mentioned that not covered if number of passengers declared is wrong and not the same person that booked the hitch took the car. 

 

Not everyone have ma. Some only have medishield life and no other hospitalisation or accident plans.

 

Minor injuries, the insurance will covered but if got serious injuries or death, then you'll see the insurance company of the vehicle at fault go all the way out to try to deny the insurance claim. Please do take note of the term "Hire" in your vehicle insurance, grabhitch ride may come under the term "Hire" as there was money transacted that's why Grab provide insurance coverage for the passengers in case that the insurance company of the vehicle refuse to cover the passengers in the event of accident. It's a grey area when money is involved.

 

Please do not mislead grabhitch drivers, once you hitch more than the LTA 2 trips rule, you're in a grey area whereby insurance company can claim that it's no longer a social hitch ride but rather a commercial dealing. That's why I suggest LTA to relax the rule to maybe 4 trips a day.

[Stratovarius]

Hmm ever since Grab upgraded its app to version 4.46.3, i have problems logging in...anyone has the same issues?

Did not hitch for over a week. Tried ytd and unable to detect gps. !@#$%^&. Uninstall and install the older version and all is fine now. Will not update till they resolve the bug.

[Buadongdong]

From what I know, it is not true. The passenger in the car will still be covered even if the hitch driver has done 2 trips or 10 trips. This is because hitch is not a commercial thing. The passengers are considered as passengers in a private car and in the event of claim, there isn't even a need to mention why the person was in that car. I have done claims for people who took hitch and the insurers don't even need to know that the passengers are using grabhitch.

 

The only thing you might lose out on is the additional personal accident coverage provided by grab for the hitch customers. But their T&C only mentioned that not covered if number of passengers declared is wrong and not the same person that booked the hitch took the car. 

 

Not everyone have ma. Some only have medishield life and no other hospitalisation or accident plans.

Corrections.. Insurance can choose not to cover the vehicle (as well as pple sitting in it) if found that the driver flout the Act. Attached thumbnail for your info.

 

Should be across the board bah.. Do let me know if any bro's insurance here states otherwise. I wanna get that insurance.. hahaha..

[Nzy]

Corrections.. Insurance can choose not to cover the vehicle (as well as pple sitting in it) if found that the driver flout the Act. Attached thumbnail for your info.

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Should be across the board bah.. Do let me know if any bro's insurance here states otherwise. I wanna get that insurance.. hahaha..

What I meant is that the insurer don't even ask if the passenger is a hitch or just another passenger in the car. So unless the passenger or driver go and tell. Or else, they'll just treat as another private car claim. And even if the passenger says that he/she is a grabhitch customer, he/she will still be covered. Its up to the insurer to get the money back from the owner of the car if they want.

Please do not mislead grabhitch drivers, once you hitch more than the LTA 2 trips rule, you're in a grey area whereby insurance company can claim that it's no longer a social hitch ride but rather a commercial dealing. That's why I suggest LTA to relax the rule to maybe 4 trips a day.

 

Once you go past 2 trips, you'll need a PDVL as it is considered commercial already. But the passenger will still be covered. Its up to the insurer to get the money back from owner of the car.

Edited March 7, 2018 by Nzy

[Buadongdong]

What I meant is that the insurer don't even ask if the passenger is a hitch or just another passenger in the car. So unless the passenger or driver go and tell. Or else, they'll just treat as another private car claim. And even if the passenger says that he/she is a grabhitch customer, he/she will still be covered. Its up to the insurer to get the money back from the owner of the car if they want.

 

Once you go past 2 trips, you'll need a PDVL as it is considered commercial already. But the passenger will still be covered. Its up to the insurer to get the money back from owner of the car.

Yup.. if private agreement then no issues at all.. 

[Kyrios]

Did not hitch for over a week. Tried ytd and unable to detect gps. !@#$%^&. Uninstall and install the older version and all is fine now. Will not update till they resolve the bug.

 

Bingo..same as moi...

 

How to install back the old version?

[Stratovarius]

Bingo..same as moi...

 

How to install back the old version?

For android only. Just google for the apk file.

 

https://www.apkmonk.com/app/com.grabtaxi.passenger/

 

I install 4.45.0, which is working on my other phone to my daily phone.

[Kusje]

you have your own personal insurance don't you?? Why worry about driver's insurance?

 

What kind of insurance do you have? 

 

I doubt it is as comprehensive as being able to claim the car driver's insurance.

Edited March 8, 2018 by Kusje

[Buadongdong]

What kind of insurance do you have?

 

I doubt it is as comprehensive as being able to claim the car driver's insurance.

Accident plan cover to the last dollar. No need to pay anything.. Should be sufficient bah..

[Nzy]

Accident plan cover to the last dollar. No need to pay anything.. Should be sufficient bah..

I think you are talking about the shield plans? Accident plans usually must be quite serious injuries then have significant pay out. Shield plan will be the one that covers all your medical costs.