Resigning and using leave to offset notice period

[Hiphiphoray]

I have a question to ask.

 

Say on employment contract states one month notice or salary in-lieut.

 

Can I assume the following are correct ?

 

1) Tender resignation on 02nd Dec 2016 / Friday.

 

2) Last Day of Service: 01st Jan 2017.

 

3) Annual leave earned until 31st Dec 2016 is 16 days.

 

4) Deepavali on 29th Oct falls on a Saturday. Hence AL = 16 + 1 = 17 days

 

5) Last day of service on 1st Jan 2017 falls on a Sunday which is a public holiday. Hence AL plus another 1 day.

 

6) Total AL to offset = 18 days.

 

7) Last day of service will be 07th Dec 2016 ?

 

Any HR guru would like to clarify this ?????

 

 

 

 

 

[Noob79]

chief....fire the 2 strawberries and employ peasant uncle

 

i person bao 2 persons' jobs...also will work quietly no give trouble

 

 

its ok...i know of people having an aquarium on the work desk

 

 

Lol, one of my ex colleague even bought a massage chair to office, we even laugh at her that boss should charge you for using the Company's electricity in this manner

 

[Vratenza]

That will require a proctoscopy examination to ascertain bleeding haemorrhoids and followed by colonoscopy to exclude malignancies.

 

That is after excluding a meetup with @Porker in presence in the medical history.

 

Lol... Indeed bro

Bloody young fart haaa
Go back to your throne la you $700k elite lol

 

[Passat57]

Why talk about MOM and employment act etc.? TS say he is manager level, so i don't think MOM rules protect professionals.

 

Well, TS, from the way your boss treat you, it seems he has no worry about your position being empty. Strange because wouldn't he have to bear the problems due to your post being empty ( and issues unsolved)?

 

I will definitely want to keep my subordinates happy and working for me because i am answerable to higher ups for problems that may arise if not enough manpower.

 

i think TS's boss already have his kaki standby for TS's position, thus forcing TS out is the easiest to create a vacancy for TS boss's kaki.  Very common if the boss is a foreigner.

[Jellandross]

from my experience, a company's first priority is usually to ensure proper handover of work so the direct manager will prefer the employee to finish serving their one-month's notice. one month handover is actually not that long especially for complex work and projects.

 

i voluntarily served 2 months of notice in one of my previous jobs as there was simply too much to handover and also considering the time taken to employ a new replacement.  i was fortunate that my bosses in the two companies were understanding enough to reach an amicable outcome.

 

if the current situation is already so unbearable for TS, i feel you should prioritise your own welfare over the company's needs and do what's necessary.  

 

somebody once offered me this advice - your last day on this earth will be filled with a lot of beautiful memories before you leave, but the length of time you spend in the office is unlikely to be one of them.

[Mazda2gal]

Psychologically unstable people will always win. A colleague with depression and anorexia was known to disappear from work and go home before knock-off time. She is still there after 10 years. No one wants to be the trigger of a potential mental breakdown or suicide, just leave the problem to the successor.  It won't be easy getting rid of the Female Boss who is crazy yet malicious, she can flip words like nobody's business. The Big Boss even commented that she should go be a lawyer. They prefer to keep things that way even though the turnover rate in her department is high. They just need to get people who are 'Yes man/woman' to work under her. 

 

By the way, she is no strawberry. She is a mid-40s durian.

 

 

Wah. Really bo dua bo sui (no big no small). It's a wonder she's still employed.

 

[Jman888]

Psychologically unstable people will always win. A colleague with depression and anorexia was known to disappear from work and go home before knock-off time. She is still there after 10 years. No one wants to be the trigger of a potential mental breakdown or suicide, just leave the problem to the successor.  It won't be easy getting rid of the Female Boss who is crazy yet malicious, she can flip words like nobody's business. The Big Boss even commented that she should go be a lawyer. They prefer to keep things that way even though the turnover rate in her department is high. They just need to get people who are 'Yes man/woman' to work under her. 

 

By the way, she is no strawberry. She is a mid-40s durian.

 

 

i worked for a bipolar female boss before, very interesting to deal with some one whose emotion can be up and down within seconds          

[Mazda2gal]

 

Good way to deal wiht life, and that is what i subscribe to!

 

Inadvertently you can now look at that as a good lesson on having built resilience and tenacity. Though at that time, you will see it as your lowest times.  Things happen for a reason is what I also believe in

 

 

shd go thank that emo boss for that hahahahaha

 

 

Yes Sir it was a great lesson but sadly, not everyone can emerge alive in that kind of working conditions. There are people who got into depression and never recover, or didn't even survive. 

 

She is evil and vindictive. I was shortlisted for an award but she sabotaged by writing negative comments. I never even knew I was shortlisted and invited for interview. The evidence was posted to me by mistake when I went to my new unit. Very dramatic experience. 

[Enye]

Psychologically unstable people will always win. A colleague with depression and anorexia was known to disappear from work and go home before knock-off time. She is still there after 10 years. No one wants to be the trigger of a potential mental breakdown or suicide, just leave the problem to the successor.  It won't be easy getting rid of the Female Boss who is crazy yet malicious, she can flip words like nobody's business. The Big Boss even commented that she should go be a lawyer. They prefer to keep things that way even though the turnover rate in her department is high. They just need to get people who are 'Yes man/woman' to work under her. 

 

By the way, she is no strawberry. She is a mid-40s durian.

 

oh now i finally understand why i am able to stay in my company for >10 years

 

[Yeshe]

I have a question to ask.

 

Say on employment contract states one month notice or salary in-lieut.

 

Can I assume the following are correct ?

 

1) Tender resignation on 02nd Dec 2016 / Friday.

 

2) Last Day of Service: 01st Jan 2017.

 

3) Annual leave earned until 31st Dec 2016 is 16 days.

 

4) Deepavali on 29th Oct falls on a Saturday. Hence AL = 16 + 1 = 17 days

 

5) Last day of service on 1st Jan 2017 falls on a Sunday which is a public holiday. Hence AL plus another 1 day.

 

6) Total AL to offset = 18 days.

 

7) Last day of service will be 07th Dec 2016 ?

 

Any HR guru would like to clarify this ?????

 

Nope, your last day offically as staff of the co is 1Jan, but you will be on leave from 7 dec till 1 Jan.

 

[Hiphiphoray]

Do we have to die die obey what HR says.

 

Mr. HHH....you must work 12.8 days and utilize some annual leave. The remaining we will pay.

 

If that happens......I would probably be like..........screw you lar work for 12.8 days!!!! either here nor there.......I would rather bang table and request to work all the way and claim all AL or I utilize all AL and leave on 07th Dec.....like this can ??? 

 

 

Nope, your last day offically as staff of the co is 1Jan, but you will be on leave from 7 dec till 1 Jan.

 

Edited July 26, 2016 by Hiphiphoray

[Porker]

Psychologically unstable people will always win. A colleague with depression and anorexia was known to disappear from work and go home before knock-off time. She is still there after 10 years. No one wants to be the trigger of a potential mental breakdown or suicide, just leave the problem to the successor.  It won't be easy getting rid of the Female Boss who is crazy yet malicious, she can flip words like nobody's business. The Big Boss even commented that she should go be a lawyer. They prefer to keep things that way even though the turnover rate in her department is high. They just need to get people who are 'Yes man/woman' to work under her. 

 

By the way, she is no strawberry. She is a mid-40s durian.

 

Sometimes people plant these crazy b i t c h e s to create public enemies and unite the team. These crazy employees are toxic. They create toxic environments and bring down morale.

[Yeshe]

Do we have to die die obey what HR says.

 

Mr. HHH....you must work 12.8 days and utilize some annual leave. The remaining we will pay.

 

If that happens......I would probably be like..........screw you lar work for 12.8 days!!!! either here nor there.......I would rather bang table and request to work all the way and claim all AL or I utilize all AL and leave on 07th Dec.....like this can ??? 

 

ultimately, all these rules just in place as a baseline.

all things u can work out with the HR to faciliate your exit lah

[Hiphiphoray]

oh ok ok. 

 

When I go.....for sure I will give a lot of problems to HR....haha.

 

ultimately, all these rules just in place as a baseline.

all things u can work out with the HR to faciliate your exit lah

 

Edited July 26, 2016 by Hiphiphoray

[RadX]

Sometimes people plant these crazy b i t c h e s to create public enemies and unite the team. These crazy employees are toxic. They create toxic environments and bring down morale.

Now we know why u gay haaaaaa

[Kusje]

Sometimes people plant these crazy b i t c h e s to create public enemies and unite the team. These crazy employees are toxic. They create toxic environments and bring down morale.

 

I worked for one before.

 

Don't think big boss will be so stupid to do it on purpose. You'll never know when they turn around and bite you as well.

[Kusje]

from my experience, a company's first priority is usually to ensure proper handover of work so the direct manager will prefer the employee to finish serving their one-month's notice. one month handover is actually not that long especially for complex work and projects.

 

i voluntarily served 2 months of notice in one of my previous jobs as there was simply too much to handover and also considering the time taken to employ a new replacement.  i was fortunate that my bosses in the two companies were understanding enough to reach an amicable outcome.

 

if the current situation is already so unbearable for TS, i feel you should prioritise your own welfare over the company's needs and do what's necessary.  

 

somebody once offered me this advice - your last day on this earth will be filled with a lot of beautiful memories before you leave, but the length of time you spend in the office is unlikely to be one of them.

 

Yes, that's the coy's first priority but not necessarily so for your boss.

 

E.g. When I resigned from my first job, the crazy boss was so upset that I had the temerity to resign and went all out to make my life miserable. Kept nitpicking at my work and giving me additional work instead of letting me hand over (mind you, the other colleagues were going home at 7 pm whereas I was staying till 10pm even though I had resigned  ).

 

Final straw came when she sent an email to me with all the bigshots (proj manager etc) in copy asking why I was so slow to do a piece of work. Not sure if it was the right thing to do but I have it back to her in that same email chain 

[Pinobii]

oh now i finally understand why i am able to stay in my company for >10 years

 

U r yes man