Harrier 2017

[t0y0ta]

1 hour ago, Carwong said:

Hi,

It seems tat d Borneo Motors harrier does not come with built-in GPS? We need to use our phone gps (connect to d head unit). Can someone confirm tis?

 Tks!

Alex.

It is supposed to use your smartphone GPS (Google Maps or Waze or Apple Maps) projected to the screen via Apple Carplay or Andriod Auto.

 

Which is 10x better than any native navigation capability in the headunit.

[KSL888]

Hi, how do u guys find the HU from BM? I dont seems to be able to tune the EQ to a sweet spot. Done that for 1hr and the depth/echo or deep bass is hard to balance.

[Theoldjaffa]

11 hours ago, KSL888 said:

Hi, how do u guys find the HU from BM? I dont seems to be able to tune the EQ to a sweet spot. Done that for 1hr and the depth/echo or deep bass is hard to balance.

Change to a better set of speakers will help greatly

[jc38]

On 11/13/2019 at 8:24 PM, KSL888 said:

Hi, how do u guys find the HU from BM? I dont seems to be able to tune the EQ to a sweet spot. Done that for 1hr and the depth/echo or deep bass is hard to balance.

The sound system is horrible. Speakers are cheap and cannot play the full range. Tune down the low bass from 0 to 60hz to zero or below. Cheap speakers cannot handle low bass and it will cause more distortions. Tune down the high freq from 1khz and above to 1 to 3... Otherwise sound will be too bright. Try this. 

I am also considering changing my speakers and would welcome any suggestions. Will probably leave the HU alone for now or maybe add another amp down the road. 

I am a newbie when it comes to ice and would appreciate some hand holding from gurus here on the best bang for buck upgrade. OK with second hand as well. Thks 

[Theoldjaffa]

3 hours ago, jc38 said:

The sound system is horrible. Speakers are cheap and cannot play the full range. Tune down the low bass from 0 to 60hz to zero or below. Cheap speakers cannot handle low bass and it will cause more distortions. Tune down the high freq from 1khz and above to 1 to 3... Otherwise sound will be too bright. Try this. 

I am also considering changing my speakers and would welcome any suggestions. Will probably leave the HU alone for now or maybe add another amp down the road. 

I am a newbie when it comes to ice and would appreciate some hand holding from gurus here on the best bang for buck upgrade. OK with second hand as well. Thks 

Best is to hear other people’s setups to get an idea of what kind of speakers you like.

If your HU is removable and can be changed, do it because it’s the source.

if the source is crap, a good set of amps will amplify the crap and a good set of speakers will also sound crap.. if u know what I mean.

if it’s not removable, then a DSP cum amp with a simple 2-way active setup and a 10” passive sub will improve the sound without breaking the bank.

[Avonez]

Been driving the Turbo Harrier for slightly over 2 years. Recently encountered a few minor problems:

1) auto sensing wiper doesn't go from intermittent to continuous wiping as the rain gets heavier.

2) Loud creaking sound when the auto boot closes towards the end.

3) Bubbles appearing at the Harrier emblem.

Wonder if any owners face the same issues? Also how long did the car battery last? Mine was changed once Foc during the first year of servicing.

[Thaiyotakamli]

8 hours ago, Avonez said:

Been driving the Turbo Harrier for slightly over 2 years. Recently encountered a few minor problems:

1) auto sensing wiper doesn't go from intermittent to continuous wiping as the rain gets heavier.

2) Loud creaking sound when the auto boot closes towards the end.

3) Bubbles appearing at the Harrier emblem.

Wonder if any owners face the same issues? Also how long did the car battery last? Mine was changed once Foc during the first year of servicing.

Sounds minor issues

 

battery last one year or 1.5yr at most

[Mkl22]

39 minutes ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Sounds minor issues

 

battery last one year or 1.5yr at most

Especially with car camera running in parking mode.
 

Many do not understand that lead acid batteries do not like to be drained like that. Kills them faster. 

Edited December 14, 2019 by Mkl22

[Thaiyotakamli]

37 minutes ago, Mkl22 said:

Especially with car camera running in parking mode.
 

Many do not understand that lead acid batteries do not like to be drained like that. Kills them faster. 

Somemore harrier use start stop yet battery voltage is small. Not suitable for start stop. Cant long last

[Techgod]

Not sure if any Harrrier owners felt that the brakes sometimes are high and sometimes are low.

Especially after servicing the brakes are high, able to bite easily.

However after like 2 to 3 weeks, the brakes are back to low. Could it be my master cylinder not working well?

I cannot seems to get a solution from BM, they showed me the brakes force measurement are well to specs.

[Beanoyip]

Helping my friend post about his car here..

2.0T Harrier, Dec 2018, less than 1yr old

Why his FC so bad? 1 tank hardly hit 300km

Is this considered a lemon? Any case for lemon law? 

He been to BM numerous time, but each time they say no fault found.

[Ganwb79]

39 minutes ago, Beanoyip said:

Helping my friend post about his car here..

2.0T Harrier, Dec 2018, less than 1yr old

Why his FC so bad? 1 tank hardly hit 300km

Is this considered a lemon? Any case for lemon law? 

He been to BM numerous time, but each time they say no fault found.

Average efficiency cannot be used to form any conclusion. You need the min/max. Ask your friend to drive on expressway at light traffic conditions for 30-40 mins and note down the trip consumption, then reset and drive on normal road for around the same time. This should give better indication of whether the car has a problem. 

[Beanoyip]

1 hour ago, Ganwb79 said:

Average efficiency cannot be used to form any conclusion. You need the min/max. Ask your friend to drive on expressway at light traffic conditions for 30-40 mins and note down the trip consumption, then reset and drive on normal road for around the same time. This should give better indication of whether the car has a problem. 

But every full tank is around the 300km range, is that even normal?

[Toeknee_33]

47 minutes ago, Beanoyip said:

But every full tank is around the 300km range, is that even normal?

300km of school runs? Lots of idling and waiting with engine on, short journeys and stop-start traffic perhaps?

If it is normal commute I assume 8-10km/l is acceptable.

Do a tank to tank measurement to be sure the FC indicator is accurate. 

Edited December 24, 2019 by Toeknee_33

[Thaiyotakamli]

5 hours ago, Beanoyip said:

Helping my friend post about his car here..

2.0T Harrier, Dec 2018, less than 1yr old

Why his FC so bad? 1 tank hardly hit 300km

Is this considered a lemon? Any case for lemon law? 

He been to BM numerous time, but each time they say no fault found.

Where he stay? If he nvr go expressway u can expect this kind of fc

 

also whether he idle alot waiting inside car with aircon on

[Ganwb79]

On 12/24/2019 at 11:35 AM, Beanoyip said:

But every full tank is around the 300km range, is that even normal?

The conditions under which the full tank is used is important. A question must have context to get an effective answer. For example, if I solely use my car to travel back and from my workplace which is 3 km away but through close to 10 traffic light junctions, i would be pretty happy to be able to go 300 km per full tank. Conversely, if i need to transit from east to west of singapore daily i would be pretty upset with the same efficiency. 

So, do share your friend's usage patterns. 

[Kia7200]

On 12/24/2019 at 9:06 AM, Beanoyip said:

Helping my friend post about his car here..

2.0T Harrier, Dec 2018, less than 1yr old

Why his FC so bad? 1 tank hardly hit 300km

Is this considered a lemon? Any case for lemon law? 

He been to BM numerous time, but each time they say no fault found.

Most probably the TL will blame it friend instead of the QC of the car.

[richard_crl032]

On 12/24/2019 at 12:35 PM, Beanoyip said:

But every full tank is around the 300km range, is that even normal?

Hi yip,

300km/tank cannot be normal for seeming many tanks after a period of ownership and not consistent and exceptional idling.

It is 60l tank and even my worse case of "bad FC" awd forester xt on default 100% sport mode and no stop/start with 55l tank does 350km on a bad week of full city driving and about 400km typically.

Cheers.

Richard