Is BHP and Torque really impt , which should we look at ?

[Charmaine12]

For example Golf is 176 torque with 112 bhp.

But the pickup seems faster than a stock civic which have higher bhp and torque

[Cheesey74]

Torque dictates drivability whereas bhp will determine top speed, that's what i understood n also felt when i started driving a car n riding a motorbike.

[Volvobrick]

Got to read at what rpm the peak torque. 300 at 1300 rpm feels totally different from 300 at 4000 rpm. Look at the hp and torque graph to see the complete picture, not just to peak number.

 

BTW HP is just Torque X RPM. They are not independent.

Edited February 17, 2018 by Volvobrick

[Theoldjaffa]

For example Golf is 176 torque with 112 bhp.

But the pickup seems faster than a stock civic which have higher bhp and torque

Vehicle weight, coefficient of drag and transmission loss plays a part in acceleration figures too, amongst others.

[Zze121]

Torque mostly hit max at 2k rpm on start off, power peak at 4k rpm on cruising.

Torque n power output affect by car weight, gear box, ECU, tyre profile.

Both equally useful.

Brake response n power must equal to both of them.

[Jamesc]

For example Golf is 176 torque with 112 bhp.

But the pickup seems faster than a stock civic which have higher bhp and torque

 

No not important.

 

If the car feels fast to you then its fast.

 

Doesn't matter if the figures are low or high on paper.

 

[Zze121]

Jap figures is like on crank.

[Watwheels]

Aiya, just look at the badge. The vw badge is more atas than the Honda badge.

[Mockngbrd]

Honda never kui vtec

[Spring]

Good pointers brought up by most of the bros here like what rpm torque comes in, power to weight ratio etc. My layman opinion is that torque is more important than hp in our day to day driving bearing in mind those pointers from the bros here.

 

Torque at low rpm enables u to take off quick from standstill n more importantly, the confidence to change lanes, overtake etc so in short, give me torque anytime!

[Wt_know]

based on my limited experience

high torque shiok for city driving

when hits nshw the low bhp lao kui

step accelerator cannot cheong

if any chance i will choose higher torque for driving in spore

but if the gearbox cannot make it also lao kui

as far as weight ... similar category car probably weight the same

to me torque > gearbox > bhp in priority

but in actual driving experience is the whole car

steering feel and suspension equally critical

Edited February 18, 2018 by Wt_know

[Griever]

Thats why we need to test drive. To feel if the drive is shiok or not. Figures are just for preliminary consideration but should not be used as ultimate justification. A lorry with high torque and power wont be shiok to drive. Sometimes small car which is zippy is more fun. And no worries on the fuel consumptio either

[Blueray]

i agree, on paper numbers are a good starting point.

 

a test drive is the real deal.

 

think many current models have max torque at around 2k+ rpms, which is useful for our city driving conditions, and when mated with a good gear box, sweet spot.

[Jamesc]

Golfs are really fast. Just modify a bit and you are going

 

pass Italian super cars. Seeing is believing. 

 

 

 

 

[Lotr8445r]

Any idea for which petrol car has the highest torque for cat A? Ty

[Wt_know]

must also look at car weight to be “zippy”

and again most importantly is the gearbox

if it’s “unresponsive” ... high torque also no use

oops ... like talking about lambo and ferrari

imho ... B&B car simi bhp/torque should be acceptable la ...

just get one that you like exterior > interior > driving feel

 

Any idea for which petrol car has the highest torque for cat A? Ty

Edited February 18, 2018 by Wt_know

[Lotr8445r]

must also look at car weight to be âzippyâ

and again most importantly is the gearbox

if itâs âunresponsiveâ ... high torque also no use

oops ... like talking about lambo and ferrari

imho ... B&B car simi bhp/torque should be acceptable la ...

just get one that you like exterior > interior > driving feel

 

 

owner of B class, 2 series and below will feel offended if their car is considered as B&B cat lei

[Mkl22]

must also look at car weight to be âzippyâ

and again most importantly is the gearbox

if itâs âunresponsiveâ ... high torque also no use

oops ... like talking about lambo and ferrari

imho ... B&B car simi bhp/torque should be acceptable la ...

just get one that you like exterior > interior > driving feel

 

 

The dsg is a good responsive gearbox when it works. Too bad for being unreliable. Many manufacturers are switching back to normal torque converter boxes.