EPL- 2019/2020

[Spring]

Good 2 nights for EPL clubs in UCL as all 4 teams won with Chelsea n City at the top of their respective groups whilst Pool and Spurs are in the 2nd qualifying position.

Tonite, UEL features Arsenal, United and Wolves. Can they make it 7/7?

[Beregond]

1 hour ago, Spring said:

Good 2 nights for EPL clubs in UCL as all 4 teams won with Chelsea n City at the top of their respective groups whilst Pool and Spurs are in the 2nd qualifying position.

Tonite, UEL features Arsenal, United and Wolves. Can they make it 7/7?

watch the chelsea game, i am glad is 1pm. 😁.

really hope lampa will rotate the team abit. batshuayi and pulisic deserve a few start in the EPL

[Spring]

1 hour ago, Beregond said:

watch the chelsea game, i am glad is 1pm. 😁.

really hope lampa will rotate the team abit. batshuayi and pulisic deserve a few start in the EPL

Kurt Zouma proving a few people wrong as he had a good game. Proper defender but not so confident with the ball but he has improved. 

Olivier Giroud is the worry for Chelsea as he is not happy now that he is effectively 3rd choice striker. I also don’t know what happened to Pedro as he was not in the match day squad nor being listed as injured. 

[Beregond]

1 minute ago, Spring said:

Kurt Zouma proving a few people wrong as he had a good game. Proper defender but not so confident with the ball but he has improved. 

Olivier Giroud is the worry for Chelsea as he is not happy now that he is effectively 3rd choice striker. I also don’t know what happened to Pedro as he was not in the match day squad nor being listed as injured. 

willian form is better atm, but with such a tight fixtures , and so many first team players, it would be wise to rotate abit, keep more player happy and fresh 

giroud should be leaving in jan, its a real shame, but his age and style totally dun suit lampar..

[Spring]

31 minutes ago, Beregond said:

willian form is better atm, but with such a tight fixtures , and so many first team players, it would be wise to rotate abit, keep more player happy and fresh 

giroud should be leaving in jan, its a real shame, but his age and style totally dun suit lampar..

All teams need to rotate with involvement in so many competitions, 4 in the case of the top 7 teams. It's an art to rotate yet keep the team winning as players need to adjust to each other and for the back 4, they need to defend as a unit so change in personnel can upset the rhythm n understanding.

The level of play in EPL and UCL is high with fast tempo, pressing etc so players need to be fresh and alert. The team that keeps their players from being jaded will do well.

Pool with their almost nvr changing front 3 is the most at risk if u ask me. Last season, they being k/o in the first round of the 2 domestic Cup competitions helped them tremendously. If they progress in both Cup competitions this season, they could be stretched.

[Atrecord]

1 hour ago, Spring said:

All teams need to rotate with involvement in so many competitions, 4 in the case of the top 7 teams. It's an art to rotate yet keep the team winning as players need to adjust to each other and for the back 4, they need to defend as a unit so change in personnel can upset the rhythm n understanding.

The level of play in EPL and UCL is high with fast tempo, pressing etc so players need to be fresh and alert. The team that keeps their players from being jaded will do well.

Pool with their almost nvr changing front 3 is the most at risk if u ask me. Last season, they being k/o in the first round of the 2 domestic Cup competitions helped them tremendously. If they progress in both Cup competitions this season, they could be stretched.

You're absolutely right.

In Pool's case, the starting 11 - plus maybe another 3-4 players - have been the "dependables", while the rest of the squad players, have so rarely played, that they are not likely to be trusted to be able to deliver, even in the domestic cups. This means that those like the front 3, are almost always playing, and don't get days off... so the likes of Brewster, Origi, Shaqiri, etc. don't get much chance to play. And if don't play, means not likely to be better and more consistent.

In other words, this vicious cycle is quite worrisome...

[Spring]

The 3 EPL clubs in UEL won last night and so 7/7 wins really paned out for EPL. I don't remember this ever happening though I could be wrong. Will this be another year of clean sweep for English teams in both European competitions? I certainly hope so but the draw for the k/o stages is the key.

It would be a dream come true if 7 out of the 8 semi finalists in UCL and UEL were EPL teams

[Jamesc]

Vardy and Pérez hat-tricks as Leicester smash nine against Southampton

Alpine Klopp might get sacked.

[Spring]

This weekend VAR suddenly lowered the bar and overturned quite a few decisions.

1 penalty call was overturned (against Chelsea at Burnley), 4 penalties were awarded (2 at Norwich for United), 1 red card was awarded (against Saints), a goal was disallowed (against Arsenal)

Also, till now after 100 matches, not a single time has the ref gone to look at the pitch side monitor which happens often at UCL, Euros and WC matches. Very confusing indeed........

[Beregond]

3 minutes ago, Spring said:

 

 not a single time has the ref gone to look at the pitch side monitor which happens often at UCL, Euros and WC matches. 

i think this should be the way. there are so many officers watching the replay outside. they should / must be able to come to a correct decision much faster then the ref.

if everytime the ref need go watch the video himself, more chance of making mistake and delaying the game

[Spring]

VAR decisions so far....

Crystal Palace +3

Leicester City +3

Manchester United +2

Southampton +2

Brighton & Hove Albion +1

Burnley +1

Tottenham Hotspur +1

AFC Bournemouth 0

Liverpool 0

Arsenal -1

Everton -1

Manchester City -1

Norwich City -1

Sheffield United -1

West Ham -1

Aston Villa -2

Wolves -2

Chelsea -3

Watford and Newcastle have not been involved in any VAR decisions

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/english-premier-league/story/3929823/how-var-decisions-have-affected-every-premier-league-club

[Spring]

10 minutes ago, Beregond said:

i think this should be the way. there are so many officers watching the replay outside. they should / must be able to come to a correct decision much faster then the ref.

if everytime the ref need go watch the video himself, more chance of making mistake and delaying the game

VAR started off with having a high bar of overturning only clear and obvious errors by the on field ref. Reason behind this was not to undermine/overrule the ref who remained overall in charge.

This created a situation which happened in the first 9 rounds of EPL where VAR was hesitant to overrule the refs and so this caused incidents like the tackle by Vertonghen on Deulofeu, Lindelof on Origi to go unpunished.

On to Round 10 and suddenly the bar was lowered and many incidents were overturned (see my previous post).

Point is that VAR can't have it 2 ways, if VAR is hesitant to overrule refs then get the refs to view themselves but if the lawmakers feel that it's a waste of time to view pitch side then do away with pitch side monitors altogether and let VAR be the decision maker. Rugby is using VAR so effectively and without controversy and why is EPL so different from their European counterparts on this? 

[Atrecord]

47 minutes ago, Spring said:

This weekend VAR suddenly lowered the bar and overturned quite a few decisions.

1 penalty call was overturned (against Chelsea at Burnley), 4 penalties were awarded (2 at Norwich for United), 1 red card was awarded (against Saints), a goal was disallowed (against Arsenal)

Also, till now after 100 matches, not a single time has the ref gone to look at the pitch side monitor which happens often at UCL, Euros and WC matches. Very confusing indeed........

Basket, must be Utd's goal last week that created such an uproar that VAR had a rethink.

Shit... if it had happened one week earlier, then got chance to have not dropped the 2 points for Pool... 😁

[Galantspeedz]

1 hour ago, Spring said:

This weekend VAR suddenly lowered the bar and overturned quite a few decisions.

1 penalty call was overturned (against Chelsea at Burnley), 4 penalties were awarded (2 at Norwich for United), 1 red card was awarded (against Saints), a goal was disallowed (against Arsenal)

Also, till now after 100 matches, not a single time has the ref gone to look at the pitch side monitor which happens often at UCL, Euros and WC matches. Very confusing indeed........

add one more... arsenal vs CP. Yellow card for dive becomes penalty for CP

you know why they don't view? Read this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/49422767

 

Referees have been told to avoid checking the pitch-side screen whenever possible. These types of review are known to cause long delays.

 

 

[Spring]

9 minutes ago, Galantspeedz said:

add one more... arsenal vs CP. Yellow card for dive becomes penalty for CP

you know why they don't view? Read this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/49422767

 

Referees have been told to avoid checking the pitch-side screen whenever possible. These types of review are known to cause long delays.

 

 

Yes this yellow card for Zaha being overturned is classic example of bar being lowered this round onwards as it's not clear and obvious. I'm sure it wouldn't have been given last week. They can't be changing the rules suddenly in mid season.

As for pitch side monitor, I do accept that it might cause a delay but then why put it there if decision is such and anyway why is EPL not in line with other European Leagues? Surely it can't be that delay is not acceptable in EPL but acceptable in other Leagues as football is a universal sport so rules shld be uniform.

The other frustrating part is that EPL delayed implementing VAR compared to Serie A, Bundesliga, Liga etc n so shld hv been wiser as they shld hv learnt lessons from the early implementers.

 

[Beregond]

14 minutes ago, Spring said:

Yes this yellow card for Zaha being overturned is classic example of bar being lowered this round onwards as it's not clear and obvious. I'm sure it wouldn't have been given last week. They can't be changing the rules suddenly in mid season.

As for pitch side monitor, I do accept that it might cause a delay but then why put it there if decision is such and anyway why is EPL not in line with other European Leagues? Surely it can't be that delay is not acceptable in EPL but acceptable in other Leagues as football is a universal sport so rules shld be uniform.

The other frustrating part is that EPL delayed implementing VAR compared to Serie A, Bundesliga, Liga etc n so shld hv been wiser as they shld hv learnt lessons from the early implementers.

 

i am for the officers outside to have as much authority as the ref inside the field.

the only issue is those officers outside must have the same standard as the ref inside. and the same standard must be set for all games. 

i think var is still new to EPL, they still testing and tweaking it out.

[Spring]

15 minutes ago, Beregond said:

i am for the officers outside to have as much authority as the ref inside the field.

the only issue is those officers outside must have the same standard as the ref inside. and the same standard must be set for all games. 

i think var is still new to EPL, they still testing and tweaking it out.

Rugby and cricket uses VAR and the decisions are solely made by the VAR officials with no viewing of pitch side monitors by the on field refs/umpires.

For some reason, football being football and always wanting to be different from other sports chose to have pitch side monitors so as to allow on field refs to have the final say. But EPL has a different interpretation or at least they want to do it differently which creates this confusion.

In short, there must be some uniformity across all leagues both at club level as well as Internationals in my opinion

[Spring]

Odds on JM being the next Gunners Mgr has tumbled apparently but read another report saying no way will Arsenal Board sanction JM to be next Gunners Mgr. Like the recent rumour that he maybe the next Spurs Mgr, I would take it with a pinch of salt. 
 

That said, it does make sense for serial winner Mourinho to be Gunners boss just like what I posted previously on the possibility of him taking over at Spurs. But for Gunners case, I seriously doubt he will be appointed as it’s a real clash of styles ie his pragmatism vs the beautiful game which was Arsenal’s DNA under Wenger. Don't think Gunners fans will welcome him as well?
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7634785/Would-Jose-Mourinho-suitable-Arsenal-manager.html