[Official] 2021 11th Generation Honda Civic

[Davidklt]

On 8/26/2023 at 11:02 PM, Hlkh said:

Singapore just focus too much on EV and COE control without knowing they're killing lots of good hybrid technology.

it will be interesting to watch how Singapore cope with public charging issues in coming years. 

The charging infrastructure is not enough to support the gov's EV plan:

https://www.lta.gov.sg/content/ltagov/en/industry_innovations/technologies/electric_vehicles/our_ev_vision.html

[inlinesix]

On 8/26/2023 at 11:02 PM, Hlkh said:

Singapore just focus too much on EV and COE control without knowing they're killing lots of good hybrid technology.

it will be interesting to watch how Singapore cope with public charging issues in coming years. 

Civic is uncompetitive against Low end German car.

 

[ZephyrX_045]

Hi Guys,

Paiseh, super late to the Civic forum. And apologies in advance for long post… Was thinking of scrapping my 1.0T Leon since AD now incumbent and car no value liao… sianz… got it in 2020, and 3 years only, nobody want buy.

Anyway, was wondering about the FE Civic, is it any good or has any problems now with the newer manufacture year models 2023 onwards? I understand that the 1.5 turbo L15BJ is basically a detuned L15BG. Was told by BMS Tuning they can tune up to original hp, and then 2nd tuner Supertune say can tune up to the Honda Accord’s 187hp and 243nm variant of the L15BG… I’m not the person who wants insane power, just want the drivability… warranty being void is no issue for me, because I always go outside to one of my best friend’s workshop to service. Even with my previous Leon.

Next is, I saw someone with factory FE LED headlights on sale, is it advisable to convert or just change over to white halogen? If i were to upsize the rims to 17-inch, which tyre profile should I opt for that won’t screw up the speedometer calibration?

Lastly, I did read this forum that there has been some quality control issues… Has those been fixed/addressed? Reason why I’m changing to Honda is that I want to get something long-term for 10-20 years, I’m still in my late 20s so would want an ICE over a hybrid or EV before they are gone for good. Hope to receive a reply~

[Mkl22]

On 9/5/2023 at 1:30 AM, ZephyrX_045 said:

Hi Guys,

Paiseh, super late to the Civic forum. And apologies in advance for long post… Was thinking of scrapping my 1.0T Leon since AD now incumbent and car no value liao… sianz… got it in 2020, and 3 years only, nobody want buy.

Anyway, was wondering about the FE Civic, is it any good or has any problems now with the newer manufacture year models 2023 onwards? I understand that the 1.5 turbo L15BJ is basically a detuned L15BG. Was told by BMS Tuning they can tune up to original hp, and then 2nd tuner Supertune say can tune up to the Honda Accord’s 187hp and 243nm variant of the L15BG… I’m not the person who wants insane power, just want the drivability… warranty being void is no issue for me, because I always go outside to one of my best friend’s workshop to service. Even with my previous Leon.

Next is, I saw someone with factory FE LED headlights on sale, is it advisable to convert or just change over to white halogen? If i were to upsize the rims to 17-inch, which tyre profile should I opt for that won’t screw up the speedometer calibration?

Lastly, I did read this forum that there has been some quality control issues… Has those been fixed/addressed? Reason why I’m changing to Honda is that I want to get something long-term for 10-20 years, I’m still in my late 20s so would want an ICE over a hybrid or EV before they are gone for good. Hope to receive a reply~

Why scrap. If scrap, sell me….. full cash. 

[Confusedboi]

On 9/5/2023 at 1:30 AM, ZephyrX_045 said:

Hi Guys,

Paiseh, super late to the Civic forum. And apologies in advance for long post… Was thinking of scrapping my 1.0T Leon since AD now incumbent and car no value liao… sianz… got it in 2020, and 3 years only, nobody want buy.

Anyway, was wondering about the FE Civic, is it any good or has any problems now with the newer manufacture year models 2023 onwards? I understand that the 1.5 turbo L15BJ is basically a detuned L15BG. Was told by BMS Tuning they can tune up to original hp, and then 2nd tuner Supertune say can tune up to the Honda Accord’s 187hp and 243nm variant of the L15BG… I’m not the person who wants insane power, just want the drivability… warranty being void is no issue for me, because I always go outside to one of my best friend’s workshop to service. Even with my previous Leon.

Next is, I saw someone with factory FE LED headlights on sale, is it advisable to convert or just change over to white halogen? If i were to upsize the rims to 17-inch, which tyre profile should I opt for that won’t screw up the speedometer calibration?

Lastly, I did read this forum that there has been some quality control issues… Has those been fixed/addressed? Reason why I’m changing to Honda is that I want to get something long-term for 10-20 years, I’m still in my late 20s so would want an ICE over a hybrid or EV before they are gone for good. Hope to receive a reply~

3 years old car can trade in bah, then see if need to top up the differences for the civic. Paging for turbotan and other 11th gen civic users 😁

[ZephyrX_045]

On 9/5/2023 at 7:27 AM, Mkl22 said:

Why scrap. If scrap, sell me….. full cash. 

Was told if I were to trade in, no value by a lot of dealers… and the car is only at 23K mileage. Bought the leon for 89,999. If trade in, was quoted 5-6K only. Export wise, was told it would be around 7-8K. My scrap paper value is at 20K. I also want to get rid of it because my DSG already showing some issues. Park under hot sun, cannot engage gear, wheel speed sensor got issue also. Had to drive without power steering to get it fixed. You want to buy my Leon with such issues? Granted the AD can fix the issues as you tell them. But longevity wise, I would not want to sell a problematic car to others.

Edited September 5, 2023 by ZephyrX_045

[ZephyrX_045]

On 9/5/2023 at 10:12 AM, Confusedboi said:

3 years old car can trade in bah, then see if need to top up the differences for the civic. Paging for turbotan and other 11th gen civic users 😁

Can is can… 5-6K value. Scrap is about 20K plus minus. Export 7-8K only. Car is at about 23K mileage. I also want to get rid of it because my DSG already showing some issues. Park under hot sun, cannot engage gear, wheel speed sensor got issue also. Had to drive without power steering to get it fixed. Granted the aftersales service was very good in rectifying the wheel speed sensor issues, but the DSG, problematic. Fun to drive and overtake, but no ADAS and gearbox got its issues even though I have been riding VAG cars since i was a kid.

[13177]

On 9/5/2023 at 10:20 AM, ZephyrX_045 said:

Was told if I were to trade in, no value by a lot of dealers… and the car is only at 23K mileage. Bought the leon for 89,999. If trade in, was quoted 5-6K only. Export wise, was told it would be around 7-8K. My scrap paper value is at 20K. I also want to get rid of it because my DSG already showing some issues. Park under hot sun, cannot engage gear, wheel speed sensor got issue also. Had to drive without power steering to get it fixed. You want to buy my Leon with such issues? Granted the AD can fix the issues as you tell them. But longevity wise, I would not want to sell a problematic car to others.

Park under hot sun, cannot engage gear? First time hear got such problem de? 😅 Meaning the car needs to cool down before can engage gear?

[ZephyrX_045]

On 9/5/2023 at 11:00 AM, 13177 said:

Park under hot sun, cannot engage gear? First time hear got such problem de? 😅 Meaning the car needs to cool down before can engage gear?

The DSG has a Transmission Control Unit. The TCU is the one that controls the gear shifts and the gear changes. Apparently the workshop told me my particular car did not come with a heat shield/heatsink and the TCU was really hot and cannot function properly. Only thing they did was just reprogram the gearbox…

Varies by batch units. My particular batch from Spain was about 5 units. So there’s 4 more Leons with this issue out and about in SG. Probably living the sheltered life 😆

Edited September 5, 2023 by ZephyrX_045

[Confusedboi]

On 9/5/2023 at 10:25 AM, ZephyrX_045 said:

Can is can… 5-6K value. Scrap is about 20K plus minus. Export 7-8K only. Car is at about 23K mileage. I also want to get rid of it because my DSG already showing some issues. Park under hot sun, cannot engage gear, wheel speed sensor got issue also. Had to drive without power steering to get it fixed. Granted the aftersales service was very good in rectifying the wheel speed sensor issues, but the DSG, problematic. Fun to drive and overtake, but no ADAS and gearbox got its issues even though I have been riding VAG cars since i was a kid.

3 years old car already got so much issue with dsg?? 😨😱 thought vag group has improved on their reliability of the dsg through the years. 

[ZephyrX_045]

On 9/5/2023 at 11:17 AM, Confusedboi said:

3 years old car already got so much issue with dsg?? 😨😱 thought vag group has improved on their reliability of the dsg through the years. 

Correct... VAG has indeed improved. But this particular batch i have has omitted some stuff for lower OMV... But again, we are talking about 2019 Manufacturing Year on the older MQB platform... the newer generation ones switched from dry clutch to wet clutch DSG, better reliability, but sadly it will be the last ICE generation for the Mk. 8 Golf, Mk. 4 A3, Mk. 4 Leon and Mk. 4 Octavia.

[ZephyrX_045]

On 9/5/2023 at 1:30 AM, ZephyrX_045 said:

Hi Guys,

Paiseh, super late to the Civic forum. And apologies in advance for long post… Was thinking of scrapping my 1.0T Leon since AD now incumbent and car no value liao… sianz… got it in 2020, and 3 years only, nobody want buy.

Anyway, was wondering about the FE Civic, is it any good or has any problems now with the newer manufacture year models 2023 onwards? I understand that the 1.5 turbo L15BJ is basically a detuned L15BG. Was told by BMS Tuning they can tune up to original hp, and then 2nd tuner Supertune say can tune up to the Honda Accord’s 187hp and 243nm variant of the L15BG… I’m not the person who wants insane power, just want the drivability… warranty being void is no issue for me, because I always go outside to one of my best friend’s workshop to service. Even with my previous Leon.

Next is, I saw someone with factory FE LED headlights on sale, is it advisable to convert or just change over to white halogen? If i were to upsize the rims to 17-inch, which tyre profile should I opt for that won’t screw up the speedometer calibration?

Lastly, I did read this forum that there has been some quality control issues… Has those been fixed/addressed? Reason why I’m changing to Honda is that I want to get something long-term for 10-20 years, I’m still in my late 20s so would want an ICE over a hybrid or EV before they are gone for good. Hope to receive a reply~

@turbotan Paiseh, sorry for the ping, just wanted to page you for advice in case this gets drowned behind...

[Mkl22]

On 9/5/2023 at 10:25 AM, ZephyrX_045 said:

Can is can… 5-6K value. Scrap is about 20K plus minus. Export 7-8K only. Car is at about 23K mileage. I also want to get rid of it because my DSG already showing some issues. Park under hot sun, cannot engage gear, wheel speed sensor got issue also. Had to drive without power steering to get it fixed. Granted the aftersales service was very good in rectifying the wheel speed sensor issues, but the DSG, problematic. Fun to drive and overtake, but no ADAS and gearbox got its issues even though I have been riding VAG cars since i was a kid.

cannot be so bad. which workshop did you go to to get a comment that the TCU is overheating?

if you really willing to sell at 27-28k, many will be queuing up. i still think it can be fixed.

[Sdf4786k]

On 9/5/2023 at 10:20 AM, ZephyrX_045 said:

Was told if I were to trade in, no value by a lot of dealers… and the car is only at 23K mileage. Bought the leon for 89,999. If trade in, was quoted 5-6K only. Export wise, was told it would be around 7-8K. My scrap paper value is at 20K. I also want to get rid of it because my DSG already showing some issues. Park under hot sun, cannot engage gear, wheel speed sensor got issue also. Had to drive without power steering to get it fixed. You want to buy my Leon with such issues? Granted the AD can fix the issues as you tell them. But longevity wise, I would not want to sell a problematic car to others.

Bro wheel speed sensor is a DIY fix .. one Allen key to unscrew n replace.. watch YouTube .. about 15mins job for first timer

[ZephyrX_045]

On 9/5/2023 at 2:17 PM, Sdf4786k said:

Bro wheel speed sensor is a DIY fix .. one Allen key to unscrew n replace.. watch YouTube .. about 15mins job for first timer

Yes. I am aware. The car was still under warranty when this issue happened. It was fixed in less than 10 minutes after they drove the car in to diagnose back in 2021

[Watwheels]

Yay! Change to new car! 

Sounds so familiar...

 

 

Isnt fixing the car cheaper than buying new car?

🚩

School holiday week.

 

Xiao didi, is it your car or your friend's friend's car?

[turbotan]

On 9/5/2023 at 11:25 AM, ZephyrX_045 said:

@turbotan Paiseh, sorry for the ping, just wanted to page you for advice in case this gets drowned behind...

I sent you a PM

[ZephyrX_045]

Hi All,

Just some crucial updates. I will be getting the Civic, just not so soon due to COE prices. Other than that, the car is quite a sporty one which can compete with the Leon in terms of that after I have test driven the car today.

One important thing to note is that the Civic e:HEV is cancelled completely, it is no longer going to be sold in Singapore.

Edited September 8, 2023 by ZephyrX_045
Forgot to add in some topics