Parliament debate 2020/2021

[Fcw75]

Shouldn’t have given the snake a chance to coil around and constrict her.

It is not going to let go.

Edited October 20, 2021 by Fcw75

[Playtime]

14 hours ago, Victor68 said:

For this I agree that one should not bring up aomething so sensitive and claim unable to disclose detail as reason to backup what was shared. Should have weight the seriousness of the accusation before even considering saying out even it it is not in parliament.

WP should apologise and withdraw this to close the case. A miatake done that cannot be undone, so there is no need to cotinue to press on. Parliament time is to discuss important matters.

What if the victim don't agree to be identified,  just want to have a voice,  hope for improvements to the system? Nothing wrong with that, it's how things should work.  After all, it's no secret that for a start... uniformed organisations often have their own reputational interest to protect,  it's a face thing. 

The perfect example would be the catholic church's handling of sexual abuse.. victim shame, institutional stubborn stone wall, legal pressure.... 

Or police are human... there are gems,  there are also absolute turds (reported in papers), I'm under no illusion the flashy TCS police dramas and national education videos means they are all fairy tale perfection.

A simple :"we could not find details of this case. " followed by quiet internal review should be right... instead it looks uncomfortably like intimidation 🤯.. if parliament cannot discuss citizens worries,  WHAT is parliament for?

After all... when the interest of the powerful are remotely perceived to be effected... they can just make new laws to protect themselves... why can't the lowly even speak.

 

[Playtime]

14 hours ago, Fcw75 said:

Shouldn’t have given the snake a chance to coil around and constrict her.

It is not going to let go.

Can you identify said snake and ask it to testify? 

Else sue you. 🤣

[mersaylee]

15 hours ago, inlinesix said:

Alleged mishandling of sexual assault case: No response from WP MP Raeesah, say police
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/no-response-from-wp-mp-raeesah-khan-to-requests-for-details-on-allegedly

Potential 1 term MP

I crossed my fingers and toes that she won't be mine...luckily I got the other she...😁

I won't even mind if the orling river carry pile chap join them and be my MP...every day will be a funny day in SK...😁

[Victor68]

3 hours ago, Playtime said:

What if the victim don't agree to be identified,  just want to have a voice,  hope for improvements to the system? Nothing wrong with that, it's how things should work.  After all, it's no secret that for a start... uniformed organisations often have their own reputational interest to protect,  it's a face thing. 

The perfect example would be the catholic church's handling of sexual abuse.. victim shame, institutional stubborn stone wall, legal pressure.... 

Or police are human... there are gems,  there are also absolute turds (reported in papers), I'm under no illusion the flashy TCS police dramas and national education videos means they are all fairy tale perfection.

A simple :"we could not find details of this case. " followed by quiet internal review should be right... instead it looks uncomfortably like intimidation 🤯.. if parliament cannot discuss citizens worries,  WHAT is parliament for?

After all... when the interest of the powerful are remotely perceived to be effected... they can just make new laws to protect themselves... why can't the lowly even speak.

 

For such a sensitive matter, cannot use this as a reason otherwise no end to baseless accusations . i would then choose not mention. Gossip can

[Wt_know]

this one cannot make it ... this is not the 1st time she pull stunt ... anyhow claim ... anyhow shoot

never learn from the previous mistake she has to apologised for a FB post

Edited November 1, 2021 by Wt_know

[Yewheng]

On 10/21/2021 at 12:27 PM, Victor68 said:

For such a sensitive matter, cannot use this as a reason otherwise no end to baseless accusations . i would then choose not mention. Gossip can

Ya the problem is that this in parliament. Anything that say out in parliament need to be 100% sure and accurate and with concrete facts. Cannot just I hear say, you hear say. Like that how to formulate law like that based in hear say?

 

If she coffeeshop talk, or talk outside parliament.. then no issue, coz nothing is recorded and is not official. So that's the issue..

[Nolicense]

10 minutes ago, Yewheng said:

Ya the problem is that this in parliament. Anything that say out in parliament need to be 100% sure and accurate and with concrete facts. Cannot just I hear say, you hear say. Like that how to formulate law like that based in hear say?

 

If she coffeeshop talk, or talk outside parliament.. then no issue, coz nothing is recorded and is not official. So that's the issue..

so now the most important question is....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

which school is she from? lol

[Victor68]

17 minutes ago, Nolicense said:

so now the most important question is....which school is she from? lol

Understand she lied 3 times. So, any others lied before? If answer is yes, then it is common practice in our parliament lah. 😄

[Nolicense]

Just now, Victor68 said:

Understand she lied 3 times. So, any others lied before? If answer is yes, then it is common practice in our parliament lah. 😄

i got a feeling that they can legally say something that is untrue and yet they can not be held accountable, such as:

if they tell the truth then will risk national security, OSA. or play with they time when they come into possession of the knowledge which means they stand corrected.

even back peddling on statements being given as opinions would do the trick. just like the raising balloons saga

[Yewheng]

43 minutes ago, Victor68 said:

Understand she lied 3 times. So, any others lied before? If answer is yes, then it is common practice in our parliament lah. 😄

Actually to me, I feel it's not lying. It's more like when needed to give instant reply or answer, she never think in her mind properly and just say it out and felt that there is no consequences. Which she is mistaken, once spoke in parliament = whatever is said need to be 100% accurate and with facts. 

 

I am sure a lot of people are like that when asked some questions that felt uneasy to reply but yet need to give instant reply or answers, will anyhow think of something to say. Of coz we normal people coffeeshop talk can get away with what we say, coz that's just coffeeshop talk and that's it and we are nobody. Not when a MP speak in parliament..

[Wt_know]

simply stupid ... want to score point in parliament also don't do that la ... 

i wonder the "incident" is real or not ... if there is no such incident at all ... does that means "fabrication" ?

will this lead to resignation and then by-election?  

Edited November 1, 2021 by Wt_know

[Victor68]

10 hours ago, Wt_know said:

simply stupid ... want to score point in parliament also don't do that la ... 

i wonder the "incident" is real or not ... if there is no such incident at all ... does that means "fabrication" ?

will this lead to resignation and then by-election?  

Fully support this notion that if in parliament, providing untrue info, MP needs to resign. Make sure it is constantly being done will done. Let's see how. 

[Wt_know]

what school are you from?  

https://mothership.sg/2021/11/ho-kwon-ping-meritocracy-diversity/

[Nolicense]

6 minutes ago, Wt_know said:

what school are you from?  

https://mothership.sg/2021/11/ho-kwon-ping-meritocracy-diversity/

all over the world is same.. many old boys club

[Beregond]

suddenly what happen to the WP  case liao?

 

[Fcw75]

This guy really is 死不要脸。

Maybe he don’t know what else he can do, unlike Lam Pin Min who went back to be a doctor.

Never Trust Union Chief.

Edited November 29, 2021 by Fcw75

[Jellandross]

Who this auntie? Can say bye bye to her parliamentary career liao 😂