Germany Pushes Back On 2035 Combustion Engine Ban Proposal

[kobayashiGT]

The country's transportation ministry sees potential in renewable fuels.

Germany says "no" to the European Commission's proposal to stop sales of new diesel and gasoline cars from the middle of the next decade. The country's opinion was expressed through the voice of its Minister of Transport, Volker Wissing, who recently spoke during an informal meeting with ministers from other European countries near Paris.

“We want to allow combustion engines even after 2035,” he said, quoted by our colleagues at Motor1.com Italy. However, there's one very important detail and it's that Germany should allow sales of new combustion cars "only if the cars can be powered exclusively with synthetic fuels."

Synthetic fuels are potentially compatible with traditional vehicles and would allow them to stay on the road in the years to come while still achieving a reduction in emissions. The German minister is therefore sure that there is "a solution to ensure that cars are not refueled with fuels derived from fossil fuels."

According to Volker Wissing, “we cannot rely only on electric or hydrogen mobility for the future” and “we need to remain technologically neutral.” It should also be considered that, to date, "we do not have enough electric vehicles, so we need to scale their availability."

As a side note, just yesterday, Audi announced its diesel V6 engines can now run on renewable fuels, reducing CO2 emissions by a whopping 70 to 95 percent.

The idea of an "intermediate" solution to achieve complete decarbonization seems to be echoing the words of Italy's minister of ecological transition, Roberto Cingolani. He recently declared that the future of the car “cannot be just full electric” and that we can instead focus on “a generation of ultra-modern hybrids, even with limited performance” to reduce CO2.

In September last year, Italy announced it is in talks with the European Commission for a potential exemption of the rule for the country's supercar automakers. The proposed 2035 combustion engine ban in Europe is still in the proposal stage, which is subject to a long approval process and acceptance from EU members.

 

Hip Hip Hooray!!!

[inlinesix]

@kobayashiGT Why are you showing Alpina V8?

[Wildfaye29]

Knn let's see our MIW follow suit to flip prata on this knn

[DOBIEMKZ]

"....Audi announced its diesel V6 engines can now run on renewable fuels, reducing CO2 emissions by a whopping 70 to 95 percent...."

This is quite an advancement or breakthrough.

[kobayashiGT]

25 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

@kobayashiGT Why are you showing Alpina V8?

Cuz that is a petrol drinker mah. You want me show you this meh?

[inlinesix]

1 minute ago, kobayashiGT said:

Cuz that is a petrol drinker mah. You want me show you this meh?

 

[Watwheels]

I think it is the much talked about man made Methane or synthetic natural gas or CH4.

Chemical composition of fuels now is

Petroleum or Octane: C8H18

Diesel: C12H23

The hydrocarbons that are combusted gives out much CO2 gases. Burning Methane will produce less, much less.

[mersaylee]

11 minutes ago, Watwheels said:

I think it is the much talked about man made Methane or synthetic natural gas or CH4.

Chemical composition of fuels now is

Petroleum or Octane: C8H18

Diesel: C12H23

The hydrocarbons that are combusted gives out much CO2 gases. Burning Methane will produce less, much less.

Someone knows his gases...i can on make guesses on what the scientific terms mean 😅

Carbon and Hydrogen? 

[Mkl22]

47 minutes ago, Wildfaye29 said:

Knn let's see our MIW follow suit to flip prata on this knn

sure to flip la.

easier to implement fuel duties...

[kobayashiGT]

25 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

 

Ahhh. W12. nice nice. hahahaha.

[Eyke]

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/eu-strikes-historic-deal-to-ban-combustion-engine-cars-by-2035

EU ban on new ICE-cars from 2035 😐

UK siam, since they left 😅

Edited October 28, 2022 by Eyke

[ER-3682]

The Main Reason i think,most EV Cap their Top Speed at 220km/h..not fast enough for the German Speed Demons..they get used to 250km/h..which to them still not enough fast.

[Eyke]

6 minutes ago, ER-3682 said:

The Main Reason i think,most EV Cap their Top Speed at 220km/h..not fast enough for the German Speed Demons..they get used to 250km/h..which to them still not enough fast.

i doubt the German govt main concern here is top speed, probably more commercial/profit...$$$

[ER-3682]

10 minutes ago, Eyke said:

i doubt the German govt main concern here is top speed, probably more commercial/profit...$$$

Or maybe the German Gov't wanted to learn from Singapore's CEVS..buy Petrol Or Diesels Cars,Surcharge €25,000 per Car.

[ER-3682]

Sideline a bit,if EV go Top Speed,long Distances,the Battery drain very Fast.

[Watwheels]

For now it is expensive to produce synthetic fuel, hopefully it will be a viable and sustainable option in the future.

 

To me EV is just full of hype by some salesman called Elon and his sales pitch.

Edited October 28, 2022 by Watwheels

[Beehive3783]

5 minutes ago, Watwheels said:

For now it is expensive to produce synthetic fuel, hopefully it will be a viable and sustainable option in the future.

 

To me EV is just full of hype by some salesman called Elon and his sales pitch.

Yet there are Tesla fanboys who insist their cars produce zero emissions, except that they are too proud to admit that the power grid they use runs on dirty energy sources, e.g SGP  

[Eyke]

10 minutes ago, Beehive3783 said:

Yet there are Tesla fanboys who insist their cars produce zero emissions, except that they are too proud to admit that the power grid they use runs on dirty energy sources, e.g SGP  

possible leh, with something like: https://www.ecorenewableenergy.com.au/articles/change-the-world-one-workout-at-a-time-eco-powr-spin-bikes/

then the only emissions will be from the human spinning the bike 😆

Edited October 28, 2022 by Eyke