Titanic explorer sub missing

[Fcw75]

Inside the vessel Titan.

https://fb.watch/lleVkXP5DX/?mibextid=YCRy0i

[Shibadog]

On 6/23/2023 at 1:04 PM, Jman888 said:

i dun think this is even an adventure, if nothing happen they were just sitting in a cramp capsule, take turn to peep out of the tiny window, breathing in each other sweat and if someone had a bad stomach then good luck.

as i mentioned earlier, they are essentially passengers here, as compared to mountaineers who engage in a physical activity

but people seek meaning in different ways - some race cars, some ride motorbikes, some test aircraft, some do jigsaw puzzles, some do paint, some play chess. Some become internet troll. To each his own.

all i'm doing is trying to provide perspective from another person's POV, not justifying their actions/inaction. It's clear how some here are so narrow-minded. not only in this thread but in other threads. 

 

 

[Stratovarius]

On 6/23/2023 at 7:30 PM, Fcw75 said:

Inside the vessel Titan.

https://fb.watch/lleVkXP5DX/?mibextid=YCRy0i

Woo. I've got similar controllers in the drawer. Use it to drive around a virtual nurburging.

[Kopites]

watching a lot of titan news lately so YouTube linked me to this documentary. Not the Hollywood production.

Enjoy won't be the right word. Watch with a Sodom heart. Haiz....

 

[Windwaver]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12225963/Tycoon-gave-seats-doomed-Titanic-sub-Pakistani-businessman-teenage-son.html

EXCLUSIVE: Tycoon who turned down tickets for him and HIS son on doomed Titanic sub reveals texts from company boss trying to flog him last-minute cut-price seats for $100,000 off and telling him 'it was safer than crossing the street'

A Las Vegas financier turned down cut-price seats on the Titan's doomed trip after raising safety concerns – but was told by the company boss that it 'was safer than crossing the street', MailOnline can reveal today.

Jay Bloom has shared texts between himself and OceanGate chief executive Stockton Rush showing he and his son were offered a 'last minute price' of $150,000 a head (£120,000) – a discount on the usual $250,000 (£195,000) fee.

Mr Bloom, a Democrat supporter who has been photographed with Joe Biden, has described his sadness at Mr Rush's death and his grief that Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman, who was just 19, had taken their spots and perished as well as French Navy veteran Paul-Henri Nargeolet and British billionaire Hamish Harding.

In a Facebook post he said: 'I expressed safety concerns and Stockton told me: “While there's obviously risk – it's way safer than flying in a helicopter or even scuba diving". 

'He was absolutely convinced that it was safer than crossing the street. I am sure he really believed what he was saying. But he was very wrong'.

In February this year Stockton Rush asked Mr Bloom and his son Sean to go on the dive to Titanic in May. Both May dives were postponed due to weather and the dive got delayed until June 18, the date of the ill-fated trip. 

Mr Bloom said: 'I told him that due to scheduling we couldn’t go until next year. Our seats went to Shahzada Dawood and his 19-year-old son, Suleman Dawood, two of the other three who lost their lives on this excursion, the fifth being Hamish Harding.

'RIP Stockton and crew. As for Sean and I... we are going to take a minute to stop and smell the roses. Tomorrow is never promised. Make the most of today'.

Texts between Mr Rush had repeatedly tried to reassure Mr Bloom about the safety of the Titan and heading to the Titanic's wreck.

He said his son was very worried about the risks after speaking with a friend. Mr Rush said: 'I'm happy to have a video call with him. Curious what the uninformed would say the danger is and whether it's real or imagined'.

They discussed how the hull would deal with pressure, or even if it came into contact with a whale or squid.

Mr Rush said: 'While there's obviously risk it's way safer than flying in a helicopter or even scuba diving, There hasn't even been an injury in 35 years in non-military subs'.

Titanic director and submersible expert James Cameron said he predicted Titan's implosion days before the debris from the missing submersible was found, calling the search a 'prolonged nightmarish charade'.

Mr Cameron, who has visited the world's most famous seawreck 30 times, said the tragedy this week has parallels with the 1912 disaster, where the captain repeatedly ignored warnings about an incoming iceberg but carried on at top speed.

The five inside Titan were killed instantly when the submersible suffered a 'catastrophic implosion' just 1,600ft from the bow of the wrecked ocean liner, the US Coast Guard announced yesterday. A remotely operated submarine from a Canadian ship found debris on the ocean floor. 

But officials say the men were likely to have died on Sunday – before military planes using sonar buoys detected what they thought could have been SOS 'banging' sounds in the water. The US Navy said they heard a sound consistent with an implosion when communications were lost around two hours after they dived. The Navy passed on that information to the Coast Guard, an insider said.

Mr Cameron told BBC News that the Coast Guard search 'felt like a prolonged and nightmarish charade where people are running around talking about banging noises and talking about oxygen and all this other stuff'.

'I knew that sub was sitting exactly underneath its last known depth and position. That's exactly where they found it,' he said.

According to court documents, safety concerns had previously been raised about the Titan submersible by a former employee of OceanGate. David Lochridge, OceanGate's former director of marine operations, claimed wrongful dismissal after flagging worries about the company's alleged 'refusal to conduct critical, non-destructive testing of the experimental design'.

Mr Cameron said last night: 'A number of the top players in the deep-submergence engineering community even wrote letters to the company saying that what they were doing was too experimental to carry passengers and that needed to be certified and so on.

'I'm struck by the similarity of the Titanic disaster itself, where the captain was repeatedly warned about ice ahead of his ship and yet he steamed at full speed into an ice field on a moonless night, and many people died as a result.

'It's a very similar tragedy where warnings went unheeded — to take place at the same exact site with all the diving that's going around all around the world. I think it's just astonishing, it's really quite surreal'.

Mr Cameron said: 'I felt in my bones what had happened. I immediately got on the phone to some of my contacts in the deep submersible community. Within about an hour I had the following facts. They were on descent. They were at 3500 metres, heading for the bottom at 3800 metres.

'For the sub's electronics to fail and its communication system to fail, and its tracking transponder to fail simultaneously - sub's gone

'We now have another wreck that is based on unfortunately the same principles of not heeding warnings.'

'The implosion would have generated a significant, broadband sound that the sonar buoys would have picked up,' explained Rear Admiral John Mauger of the US Coast Guard at a press conference. 

Mr Cameron's pointed message comes after it was revealed that emerged that OceanGate boss Mr Rush had been warned years before that his 'experimental approach' could lead to a catastrophe – and in another interview he spoke about 'breaking rules' to make the submarine.

In a gut-wrenching blow for their families, experts say there is little prospect of recovering any of their remains. 

'This is an incredibly unforgiving environment down there. The debris is consistent of a catastrophic implosion of the vessel.. we'll continue to work and search the area down there – but I don't have an answer for prospects at this time,' Paul Hankin, a deep sea expert involved in the search, said. 

[PSP415]

Frankly, other than the young man who went cos of his dad, the rest died doing something they loved, am passionate about and have the means to do so. 

On hindsight, foresight, offside, stubbornside, daredevilsight, no sight and in the name of adventure, it caused them their lives. 

There will be such expeditions still, perhaps not so near future but definitely, this incident will not stop more trips to look at the Titanic. In fact, now there is another site nearby it to view and talk about, the last remains of the Titan. 

RIP. My only thought and consolation is they went out so fast, they may not even know they died or felt any pain. 

And surely, spotlight on the safety aspects will be revisited more rigorously and future customers will want to know for sure that the submersible is deep deep deep ocean worthy with proper tests done and certified by relevant professionals etc. No longer can they say no accidents in 35 years. This is a positive paid with 5 lives. 

Stay safe all. Have a good weekend. Relax and release the pressures of life. The correct way. Cheers 

 

[bsswan]

Investigate and regulate as they have done for decades with aircraft, maybe they can learn from Air Accident Investigation teams around the globe...... each death, misadventure leads to progress.

[Atonchia]

On 6/24/2023 at 10:49 AM, PSP415 said:

Frankly, other than the young man who went cos of his dad, the rest died doing something they loved, am passionate about and have the means to do so. 

On hindsight, foresight, offside, stubbornside, daredevilsight, no sight and in the name of adventure, it caused them their lives. 

There will be such expeditions still, perhaps not so near future but definitely, this incident will not stop more trips to look at the Titanic. In fact, now there is another site nearby it to view and talk about, the last remains of the Titan. 

RIP. My only thought and consolation is they went out so fast, they may not even know they died or felt any pain. 

And surely, spotlight on the safety aspects will be revisited more rigorously and future customers will want to know for sure that the submersible is deep deep deep ocean worthy with proper tests done and certified by relevant professionals etc. No longer can they say no accidents in 35 years. This is a positive paid with 5 lives. 

Stay safe all. Have a good weekend. Relax and release the pressures of life. The correct way. Cheers 

 

It's a misadventure. 

More likely the submersible was not meant to to go such depths. But was tested once, let's go another round.... 

Human had explored space and moon....

Deep sea exploration is something worth doing. But vessel must be capable to withstand such pressure. 

At least Elon musk tested his rockets many times without passenger 1st.

 

[Scion]

On 6/24/2023 at 1:52 PM, Atonchia said:

It's a misadventure. 

More likely the submersible was not meant to to go such depths. But was tested once, let's go another round.... 

Human had explored space and moon....

Deep sea exploration is something worth doing. But vessel must be capable to withstand such pressure. 

At least Elon musk tested his rockets many times without passenger 1st.

 

 

Elon Musk tested his rocket himself 

joking, it's a parody 😁

 

 

 

[Wt_know]

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/24/business/extreme-travel-cost

Edited June 25, 2023 by Wt_know

[Jamesc]

Exactly they are passengers.

Same as the passengers on the Titanic.

Passengers on the Titanic were also not thrill seekers.

On 6/23/2023 at 9:30 PM, Shibadog said:

as i mentioned earlier, they are essentially passengers here, as compared to mountaineers who engage in a physical activity

but people seek meaning in different ways - some race cars, some ride motorbikes, some test aircraft, some do jigsaw puzzles, some do paint, some play chess. Some become internet troll. To each his own.

all i'm doing is trying to provide perspective from another person's POV, not justifying their actions/inaction. It's clear how some here are so narrow-minded. not only in this thread but in other threads. 

 

[Jamesc]

Wealthy has dangerous past times?

You can be poor sit on a bus and the bus crash and die.

I could be wrong but on the whole I think rich people live longer than poor people like me.

[Jamesc]

The best thing is to kenna whack on the net.

People really don't know they are talking nonsense until everyone point it out to them.

Please have an open mind and take it positively.

[Jamesc]

Put the idiots on ignore.

On 6/23/2023 at 9:30 PM, Shibadog said:

as i mentioned earlier, they are essentially passengers here, as compared to mountaineers who engage in a physical activity

but people seek meaning in different ways - some race cars, some ride motorbikes, some test aircraft, some do jigsaw puzzles, some do paint, some play chess. Some become internet troll. To each his own.

all i'm doing is trying to provide perspective from another person's POV, not justifying their actions/inaction. It's clear how some here are so narrow-minded. not only in this thread but in other threads. 

 

[Jamesc]

Life is too short to listen to idiots.

[Stary]

I thought this is a good article that explains what might happen to the passengers  inside this sub as it implodes. Not just the pressure, but also searing heat 

https://mindofjp.medium.com/what-really-happens-to-a-human-body-at-titanic-depths-3f46ab545e0e

[Victor68]

It may not be a nice thing to say but in reality this is what is happening. 

[RadX]

On 6/27/2023 at 1:31 PM, Victor68 said:

It may not be a nice thing to say but in reality this is what is happening. 

It’s a fact!!