Cashiertan Neutral Newbie May 1, 2004 Author Share May 1, 2004 I think i should have put the thread as Best korean car in Singapore. Also, i think how good a accent is in aust does not matter coz what matter is what accent is in Singapore! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear May 1, 2004 Share May 1, 2004 A very popular car to mod in the US. Car enthusiasts in the US like to take cheap import cars and turn them into monsters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord 1st Gear May 1, 2004 Share May 1, 2004 Tried to find one such gal in Google but to no avail! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord 1st Gear May 1, 2004 Share May 1, 2004 Too many Matrixes on the road nowadays! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vtim 3rd Gear May 3, 2004 Share May 3, 2004 not easy to find ley! I wonder where my friends got them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord 1st Gear May 3, 2004 Share May 3, 2004 Ask from them and post it here?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gendut 2nd Gear May 3, 2004 Share May 3, 2004 Does it matter which car is made where? Most importantly the owner loves it. But then I feel that Optra beats the rest of the Koreans hands down in the same category. The rival for Optra is the Altis. We should thank StarAUto for bringing in cars with standard safety features intact and priced reasonably too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seansene 1st Gear May 4, 2004 Share May 4, 2004 GM bot over Daewoo ... just a change in name ... Perhaps the forum master should remove the Daewoo logo from this forum to avoid misunderstanding. As far as we know, Daewoo no longer exist as a car company. Regards, Ok, let's get one thing clear: Daewoo as a car company still exists, and is being run by Nick Reilly, who came from Vauxhall in 2002. One of the cars they produce is the Nubira, or Lacetti, which is marketed here as the Chevrolet Optra. Now, GM Daewoo was formed in October 2002, after the Giant Machine completed its takeover of the struggling Korean maker. The Optra was launched in mid-2003, indicating that the new team hardly had time to make changes to the tooling processes, let alone influence the design of the car. All of which means that the Optra is about as American as the Ford Laser, which is to say, not very much at all beyond the badge. Please don't think that I'm knocking the Optra in any way. In fact, if the Koreans can produce a car as competitive as many of you say it is (I haven't had the chance to take a good look at it myself), then all the better. But please, enough of this 'Optra is not a Korean car' elitism. It was designed from the ground up as nothing but a Daewoo. The first all-new car to emerge from the new company will be a soft-roader, due mid-2005. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear May 4, 2004 Share May 4, 2004 (edited) Most of us know it was a Daewoo but somehow, its parentage and pedigree is now completely everywhere! Like some illegitimate bustard. But a cheap bustard it is . Edited May 4, 2004 by Genie47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mydotcom 1st Gear May 4, 2004 Share May 4, 2004 Too many Matrixes on the road nowadays! Lagi more Corollas (Altis included), Sunnys and Lancers on the road these days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seansene 1st Gear May 4, 2004 Share May 4, 2004 Don't say the 'B' word lah... most cars nowadays have input from all sorts of countries. Would you consider BMWs African cars, for example? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie 2nd Gear May 4, 2004 Share May 4, 2004 Don't say the 'B' word lah... most cars nowadays have input from all sorts of countries. Would you consider BMWs African cars, for example? So the comment on Optra is an American car stand wah. If you're from NUS, who cares whether you're Indain, Chinese, Malay or angmo. The are all Nusians wah. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic May 4, 2004 Share May 4, 2004 that's true, in most markets it's sold as daewoo lacetti. at best, one can say it's a good korean car but to deny that it is one is ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seansene 1st Gear May 4, 2004 Share May 4, 2004 Errr... no. What if you're from NUS but wear a Stanford t-shirt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLord 1st Gear May 4, 2004 Share May 4, 2004 Thats true also... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie47 1st Gear May 4, 2004 Share May 4, 2004 Then Stanford must pay me for advertising their school . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seansene 1st Gear May 4, 2004 Share May 4, 2004 All I was saying is that despite their cars being built in S.A, BMWs are still German cars. Because they were designed (and I don't mean just aesthetically) for the German company. Now, if someone took their cars and marketed them in Singapore as Fords, would we consider them American? Obviusly not! And so it is with Daewoo and Chevy... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthatter Neutral Newbie May 4, 2004 Share May 4, 2004 I guess one has to really look at what constitutes the brand. All this talk about South African made BMWs being African is bull...and we all know it. Why? Who the hell would want to buy an African car? Because at the end of the day BMW is a German company/brand. The Altis is made in Thailand, but it is still a what car?...a Toyota (Japanese brand). Same for the Chevrolet. So the brand is American, the various models may be built from Stateside to bloody Timbucktoo for all I care...but it is still a Chevy (American brand)...which is part of?...GM (also American company)! How can I make it any clearer? The Chevrolet Optra is what we get in Singapore. Not the bloody Daewoo Lecetti, Buick Excelle, Suzuki Forenza etc. All are the "same basic design", "same platform", "same range of engines" ...and guess what?..."same parent company GM"!!! To put it crudely in an example. If I buy your house, guess who owns your toilet bowl? So GM(an American co.) owns Daewoo's designs, production plants, staff etc. It is not the design origin, nor the production origin that dictates the brand, but it is the brand that decides based on cost, marketability/image, and other factors. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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