fxsg123 1st Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 Just to share about hybrids... the battery cannot last the 10 years. Almost certainly need replacement. I know of someone who drives a Lexus LS600h. The battery had to be replaced after only 5 years. And it was fortunate that Borneo Motors decided to replace it under their 10 year warranty scheme. You have to check if Kah Motors will do the same for the Vezel. I guessed that this person was able to get it changed cos he was driving the flagship Lexus. Not sure about the cheaper models for all makes. km don't carry vezel hydrid. However, Vezel hyrdrid use Lithium-Ion battery. I don't expect this battery to be problem free for 10 years, but I also don't expect them to give problem within 5 years. In fact, even if there a problem, you can replace individual cell. Even if you like to replace the entire battery, its 6k, Lexus is more expensive. The DX specs was on a brochure when I went down to KM to take a look about 2 weeks ago. Yes, it does not seemed to be on their website. I guess we will have our opinions about the hybrid. Perhaps maybe 10 years down the line, i would consider one when the tech is way more advanced then now. I will agree on the fuel consumption and the eventual need to sell part is unknown. My other worry is the safety as I always have this opinion of sitting on a time bomb in the hybrid as the battery (l-ion or lipo4 .. not sure what they use) is right below the car cabin. These batteries when shorted or damaged can cause huge explosions and fire. Just want to keep life simple for myself. All the best for your car hunting. no problem! individual preference, no right or wrong, happy most important! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des_k 1st Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 km don't carry vezel hydrid. However, Vezel hyrdrid use Lithium-Ion battery. I don't expect this battery to be problem free for 10 years, but I also don't expect them to give problem within 5 years. In fact, even if there a problem, you can replace individual cell. Even if you like to replace the entire battery, its 6k, Lexus is more expensive. no problem! individual preference, no right or wrong, happy most important! Just wonder how you get the cost of the entire battery 6k ? I have talked to " hybrid expert" WS, they are telling me that Honda Hybrid Battery is diff from Toyota Hybrid Battery. I got to know from one of this WS that they changed Honda Civic Hybrid Battery with cost of $2k plus and Toyota Prius Hybrid Battery cost at least 6k. They did mentioned that Honda Hybrid Battery can change individual cell but not Toyota. Lastly , they recommend to do hybrid battery conditioning every 3 to 4 yrs which WS will change and replace individual cell to prolong the battery life spare. Conditioning cost is around $500 to $700. Above is just what I heard and find out so is for individual to believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des_k 1st Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 The DX specs was on a brochure when I went down to KM to take a look about 2 weeks ago. Yes, it does not seemed to be on their website. I guess we will have our opinions about the hybrid. Perhaps maybe 10 years down the line, i would consider one when the tech is way more advanced then now. I will agree on the fuel consumption and the eventual need to sell part is unknown. My other worry is the safety as I always have this opinion of sitting on a time bomb in the hybrid as the battery (l-ion or lipo4 .. not sure what they use) is right below the car cabin. These batteries when shorted or damaged can cause huge explosions and fire. Just want to keep life simple for myself. All the best for your car hunting. I thought the hybrid L-ion battery is below the boot ? Is scary to see so many cars caught fire in the road.. from low end to high end cars all kanna. But one fact is Japan Car manufacturers are coming out with Hybrid for most of the cars model. Driver in singapore are not really ready for Hybrid due to uncertainty. Hope that will caused the hybrid battery price drop and benefit all of us in near future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman 1st Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 Just to share about hybrids... the battery cannot last the 10 years. Almost certainly need replacement. I know of someone who drives a Lexus LS600h. The battery had to be replaced after only 5 years. And it was fortunate that Borneo Motors decided to replace it under their 10 year warranty scheme. You have to check if Kah Motors will do the same for the Vezel. I guessed that this person was able to get it changed cos he was driving the flagship Lexus. Not sure about the cheaper models for all makes. I think the duration before a change of battery is needed is subjective to the driving habits and conditions. In sg, under hot sun and heavy usage at heavy traffic conditions, etc, So likely after 2-3 years, battery life starts degrading. I don't see it as much a difference from devices like mobile phones or even those electric scooters (PMD) where the battery starts to show lesser storage ability per charge after 3 years. Then also the price to change the battery and from who? Since KM don't sell hybrid, so its down to the PIs, Then its likely have to pay for a change as long as its out of warranty with 3-5 years. Just my personal opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireman 1st Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 I thought the hybrid L-ion battery is below the boot ? Is scary to see so many cars caught fire in the road.. from low end to high end cars all kanna. But one fact is Japan Car manufacturers are coming out with Hybrid for most of the cars model. Driver in singapore are not really ready for Hybrid due to uncertainty. Hope that will caused the hybrid battery price drop and benefit all of us in near future. Sorry, I perhaps am confused of the battery placing with another car. But I think regardless of where it is, as long as if there is a freak collision and the battery is damaged in the process, there is a chance of fire and explosion. I did see drones and electric scooters which uses l-ion battery explodes and burned. Its is fast and rather hard to control the fire. And putting out the fire with water does not help. Maybe next time, they might use nuclear fuel instead. No charging or refueling required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajet2b 4th Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 I heard from SE, no need test drive, ppl already booked the hrv. Made in Japan, I was told. Tempted to book when I was there over the weekend. The hrv is in the showroom already unlike some weeks or months back. Is this really from Japan or assembled else where? Nothing in writing on KM website indicate it is made in Japan. They just mentioned same as Vezel from Japan. Yes Vezel is from Japan but where is this HR-V made from? Do you know which engine this new HR-V is using? Is it the same as Vezel L15B? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ara 1st Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 Is this really from Japan or assembled else where? Nothing in writing on KM website indicate it is made in Japan. They just mentioned same as Vezel from Japan. Yes Vezel is from Japan but where is this HR-V made from? Do you know which engine this new HR-V is using? Is it the same as Vezel L15B? Only hear from SE that this hrv is from Japan. Engine also hear from SE that it is the 130hp one. Anyone have booked? Engine number same as share.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 Is this really from Japan or assembled else where? Nothing in writing on KM website indicate it is made in Japan. They just mentioned same as Vezel from Japan. Yes Vezel is from Japan but where is this HR-V made from? Do you know which engine this new HR-V is using? Is it the same as Vezel L15B? Why must it be made in japan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxsg123 1st Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 Is this really from Japan or assembled else where? Nothing in writing on KM website indicate it is made in Japan. They just mentioned same as Vezel from Japan. Yes Vezel is from Japan but where is this HR-V made from? Do you know which engine this new HR-V is using? Is it the same as Vezel L15B? Yup, that's what i mean, we comfirmed yes engine from jp but what about the rest? If anyone interested in km hrv,they should go to the bottom with km. At least vezel is clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 Yup, that's what i mean, we comfirmed yes engine from jp but what about the rest? If anyone interested in km hrv,they should go to the bottom with km. At least vezel is clear. L15B is only used in Japanese produced Honda cars. If it is produced in Thailand, only got L15A which is SOHC i-vtec. Honda Jazz in Thailand only got L15A. KM already pay $$$ to Honda Thailand to produce small volume of R16 for Honda Civic. Does it still make sense to bleed $$$ like this? Without physical, ask SE also no use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxsg123 1st Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 (edited) Just wonder how you get the cost of the entire battery 6k ? I ask one ws specialize in hydrid. Ws pricelist quote honda battery 2k to 6k max, so i use the upper limited. On the other hand, Lexus up to 10k. Sorry, I perhaps am confused of the battery placing with another car. But I think regardless of where it is, as long as if there is a freak collision and the battery is damaged in the process, there is a chance of fire and explosion. I did see drones and electric scooters which uses l-ion battery explodes and burned. Its is fast and rather hard to control the fire. And putting out the fire with water does not help. Maybe next time, they might use nuclear fuel instead. No charging or refueling required. Worst scenario is batteries cannot dissipate heat and go into thermal runaway.Then you can get a fire; not a fireball, just a fire. any vehicle of any type can explode given the right set of circumstances. Edited June 28, 2016 by fxsg123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zxcvb Turbocharged June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 L15B is only used in Japanese produced Honda cars. If it is produced in Thailand, only got L15A which is SOHC i-vtec. Honda Jazz in Thailand only got L15A. KM already pay $$$ to Honda Thailand to produce small volume of R16 for Honda Civic. Does it still make sense to bleed $$$ like this? Without physical, ask SE also no use. Exactly. Must see the real product first. Scully the same as before made in Thailand, but just upgrade the specs only. Lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ara 1st Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 (edited) Exactly. Must see the real product first. Scully the same as before made in Thailand, but just upgrade the specs only. Lol.Product in showroom already :) I didnt check further. Jus shoot a few photos. Maybe this week go open bonnet hahaha Edit : KM updated website already http://www.honda.com.sg/cars/hrv_specs_lx.htm Edited June 28, 2016 by Ara 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajet2b 4th Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 Product in showroom already :) I didnt check further. Jus shoot a few photos. Maybe this week go open bonnet hahaha Edit : KM updated website already http://www.honda.com.sg/cars/hrv_specs_lx.htm thanks bro. still no mention of L15B on KM site. Only SE dare say but not KM in their official specification page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinzntonic 4th Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 10yrs down the road.. no such thing as hybrid liao.. u think hybrid technology still so laid back meh.. the old ES civic 1.3 at least more den 10yrs.. Prius also more den 10yrs liao.. 10yrs down the road ppl driving electric car.. u still thinking abt hybrid.. Hybrid has been ard so long.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyyh Clutched June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 L15B is only used in Japanese produced Honda cars. If it is produced in Thailand, only got L15A which is SOHC i-vtec. Honda Jazz in Thailand only got L15A. KM already pay $$$ to Honda Thailand to produce small volume of R16 for Honda Civic. Does it still make sense to bleed $$$ like this? Without physical, ask SE also no use. HR-V on sgcarmart indicating built in Thailand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ara 1st Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 HR-V on sgcarmart indicating built in Thailand.That one not update for months already. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazon777 3rd Gear June 28, 2016 Share June 28, 2016 HR-V on sgcarmart indicating built in Thailand. KM had dropped Thai made HRV for the Jap made Vezel after seeing the thousands of Vezel being sold. Time to go KM to checkout the new HRV(Vezel) to replace my CRV ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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